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Its healthy to stay on steroids and never come off?  ???

I was being slightly facetious Adam but since you asked. I certainly would never recommend someone stay on steroids long term. I do know more than one person who have been on mainly for more than 20 years and they seem to be fine even after getting their yearly check ups.

What I don't like to see is someone buying a bottle of dbol and then being told they need to follow up with hcg nolvadex and clomid maybe some letro  thinking this in someway makes it "safer" while in reality they are damaging their healthy with these drugs some of which are potent cancer drugs.

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is it true that you can and should build up with a higher dose and then use a lower dose to maintain?

I know you didn't ask me but the higher the dose the bigger you get decrease the dose and you get smaller. It's very simple. 

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I know you didn't ask me but the higher the dose the bigger you get decrease the dose and you get smaller. It's very simple. 

ok, and that really fucking sucks, but thanks for the honest answer

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ok, and that really fucking sucks, but thanks for the honest answer

It doesn't take a very high dose to build a decent physique. That is the good news.

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I know you didn't ask me but the higher the dose the bigger you get decrease the dose and you get smaller. It's very simple. 
did RC blast and cruize or blast for 5 years in a row? when approaching his final form

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did RC blast and cruize or blast for 5 years in a row? when approaching his final form

He's a walking pharmacy.

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I know you didn't ask me but the higher the dose the bigger you get decrease the dose and you get smaller. It's very simple. 
disgusted would your theory of the best way to use anabolics be slowly but continuously increasing the dosage upwards when your current dosage has been maxed out by yourself? and what would you consider the right time to increase the dose each time or how long shud u wait when u hit a wall to make sure uve maxed out that dose ?   

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Fuck the pct and stay on. Stop being an over thinking vagina.  :D


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Shut the fuck up Bluto.

makes you wonder if bluto is some kind of shut in. for the past 10 years hes run countless user names.

guy has issues no doubt. nobody can be online as much as this guy is and have any kind of 'normal' life.
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disgusted would your theory of the best way to use anabolics be slowly but continuously increasing the dosage upwards when your current dosage has been maxed out by yourself? and what would you consider the right time to increase the dose each time or how long shud u wait when u hit a wall to make sure uve maxed out that dose ?  

use enough anabolics to slowly build a quality physique over time, and once there reduce the amounts use gh and maintain. i strongly believe you can maintain quality gains made over a lengthy period of time using a fraction of the mg's used to actually get there as long as you are using gh.

now, if you put on 30 pounds in one year boatloading anabolics, gh and insulin, and expect to keep them on 50mg of prop eod and 4 iu of gh a day your going to be severely disappointed. build a quality physique over time, using moderate amounts of anabolics and you should be able to retain a good portion of those gains on a fraction of what it takes to get there.

all you lose is the 'look' the compounds give. the fullness, the tightness or whatever. the cell does not atrophy to nothing as it is still being trained. theres a direct correlation between atrophy and strength as well and thats the key to the whole thing really.

class dismissed.

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anabolichalo needs to decide if he wants hair or muscles. haha

never seen a guy more paranoid about going bald. quite funny

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disgusted would your theory of the best way to use anabolics be slowly but continuously increasing the dosage upwards when your current dosage has been maxed out by yourself? and what would you consider the right time to increase the dose each time or how long shud u wait when u hit a wall to make sure uve maxed out that dose ?   

Generally I tell people to let yourself to grow into a dose. Too many people raise the dose far too quick when they can still be growing on a decent dose. Come off once in a while but too many guys do the 8 to 12 weeks then come off far to long and make the huge mistake of thinking some hcg is gonna magically allow them to hold on to all their gains.

On the flip side of the coin there's a guy named Ramy  ;D

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How powerful are those gels and patches compared to all the other stuff and wouldn`t that be easier to do then all the injecting and pill taking?

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How powerful are those gels and patches compared to all the other stuff and wouldn`t that be easier to do then all the injecting and pill taking?

Not even close.

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How powerful are those gels and patches compared to all the other stuff and wouldn`t that be easier to do then all the injecting and pill taking?
more for 'noodle'than muscle building ability,,,

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How powerful are those gels and patches compared to all the other stuff and wouldn`t that be easier to do then all the injecting and pill taking?

remember tbumbz???better stay natural that way lol
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more for 'noodle'than muscle building ability,,,

true that. I have 'noodle' probs on my test e. doctor is gonna have to up my dose or give me more frequent injections. freaky weird shit and I blew $60 on an escort that I felt ripped off on

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Why come off?

Then u would be fully depend on steroids the rest of ur life after u chemically castrate yourself...

 I personally hate when my balls shrivel up,,, love having big balls sometimes!
you are gay.

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anabolichalo needs to decide if he wants hair or muscles. haha

never seen a guy more paranoid about going bald. quite funny


x2.

Super girly of him constantly worrying about hair.

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x2.

Super girly of him constantly worrying about hair.

Just use deca alone!  Hair>>>deca dick
you are gay.

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x2.

Super girly of him constantly worrying about hair.

they got great toupee's nowadays anyway.

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Why come off?

Then u would be fully depend on steroids the rest of ur life after u chemically castrate yourself...

 I personally hate when my balls shrivel up,,, love having big balls sometimes!

You assume a lot.. First just because someone uses massive amounts doesn't mean that person won't have a sex drive and it also doesn't mean he will be dependent on steroids the rest of his life. I've seen it all and I know lots of guys who quit, are normal and have children.

Example, I was just sitting with a friend of mine yesterday who used to compete and did his last show about 10 years ago. This guy used to abuse the shit out of deca and never had a problem. His last show he was using 2500 mgs DAILY!! He has a 2yr old son btw.

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Just use deca alone!  Hair>>>deca dick
test + finasteride = dht levels down = no hairloss

?????????????

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test + finasteride = dht levels down = no hairloss

?????????????

 i have severe baldness problems in my family, i think it's father's side

ran test at 1g per week w/o finasteride (although i had it on hand), had no problems

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You assume a lot.. First just because someone uses massive amounts doesn't mean that person won't have a sex drive and it also doesn't mean he will be dependent on steroids the rest of his life. I've seen it all and I know lots of guys who quit, are normal and have children.

Example, I was just sitting with a friend of mine yesterday who used to compete and did his last show about 10 years ago. This guy used to abuse the shit out of deca and never had a problem. His last show he was using 2500 mgs DAILY!! He has a 2yr old son btw.
a bottle of deca a day...17,500mg a wk lol.  i know u need massive dosages to be pro size but surely this is way beyond the point of diminishing returns esp since its jus one steroid and not a combination of many so what was his theory or why did he take so much deca?  or how cud u combat the water weight that wud bring ?  while im on the topic i was reading over your old posts for hours the other night, which i must say are always solid shit and certainly one of the best posters on this board, anyway i did see a post where you mentioned talking to vic richards and said that his favourites were tren/eq and that he mentioned dosages .......so maybe if your in a good mood your might care to share what those were :) or in a pm !  or any other info he might have mentioned as ive a feeling he was big on orals also . i do enjoying hearing these kind of stories !