If "a calorie is a calorie" then substitute all your protein intake for salt

[deceiver]

Have you not been paying attention for years and years?


You meet these needs by default and would have to go out of your way NOT to meet them so it really is not a relevant question.  How many times do I have to post that and for how many more years? 

Do you really think everyone is paying attention to your posts?

[CalvinH]

Have you not been paying attention for years and years?

I don't really pay too much attention.

Nice work on the quote function

[BikiniSlut]

Once your nutritional needs are met, they do not matter one bit.  Also, food choice in meeting those needs don`t matter at all.

 

Bingo.

Therefore a calorie is NOT a calorie.

[bigmc]

chaos owning ta by pointing out the contradictions in his posts in this thread

[The True Adonis]

Bingo.

Therefore a calorie is NOT a calorie.

[The True Adonis]

chaos owning ta by pointing out the contradictions in his posts in this thread

Are you really this ignorant in real life or are you just trying to mimic the stupidity of Bikinislut as a new hobby of yours?

[El Diablo Blanco]

I don't get why people can't grasp that a calorie is just a unit of measurement so a calorie is always a calorie.  It doesn't change.  Same as a mile per hour is a mile per hour.  It's not a hard concept.

[The True Adonis]

I don't get why people can't grasp that a calorie is just a unit of measurement so a calorie is always a calorie.  It doesn't change.  Same as a mile per hour is a mile per hour.  It's not a hard concept.

Somehow they don`t grasp that both a Ferrari and a Toyota can do 60 Miles Per Hour and travel at the same speed and get you to the same destination at the same exact time, yet are different cars.  In this case the Ferrari=Carbohydrates and the Toyota=Protein.  

[bigmc]

Somehow they don`t grasp that both a Ferrari and a Toyota can do 60 Miles Per Hour and travel at the same speed and get you to the same destination at the same exact time, yet are different cars.  In this case the Ferrari=Carbohydrates and the Toyota=Protein.  

 

who want to drive a toyota if they can drive a ferrari

[The True Adonis]

who want to drive a toyota if they can drive a ferrari

Precisely why I bake cakes. 

[Krankenstein]

Bingo.

Therefore a calorie is NOT a calorie.

Bingo?? 

So with that logic, I can over eat 1,000 of one thing for a month and not get any fatter, but with 1,000 calories of another I will?

[OTHstrong]

Bingo?? 

So with that logic, I can over eat 1,000 of one thing for a month and not get any fatter, but with 1,000 calories of another I will?

BS just made a thread blaming her coach about the way she looks on stage bro, she is just argumentative and does not know how to keep her mouth shut yet come show time she looks like shit. Maybe if she would just shut the fuck and listen for a change

[The True Adonis]

BS just made a thread blaming her coach about the way she looks on stage bro, she is just argumentative and does not know how to keep her mouth shut yet come show time she looks like shit. Maybe if she would just shut the fuck and listen for a change

Onetimehard,

Its just the "metabolic damage" she suffers from.  (I love how she always looks for excuses) 

[OTHstrong]

Onetimehard,

Its just the "metabolic damage" she suffers from.  (I love how she always looks for excuses) 

This is what cheaters do when they do not have the will, not only she has an excuse like it is a decease but she also blames her coach, when we all know she binged every other day

[The True Adonis]

This is what cheaters do when they do not have the will, not only she has an excuse like it is a decease but she also blames her coach, when we all know she binged every other day

The fact that she even needed a "coach" speaks volumes.  She then comes on here with all the wrong advices, apparently parroting whatever her "coach" has told her.  I`d take the "coach" to small claims court if I were her and learn how to rake leaves and lift weights.

[chaos]

Nice work on the quote function

You're quite the quoter yourself, stud.

[Conker]

I think there are a few studies knocking around(like the one below) that suggest that different macro breakdowns when dieting give differing results in terms of body composition.


Background:A high-protein (HP), low-fat weight-loss diet may be advantageous for improving cardiometabolic health outcomes and body composition. To date, only limited research has been conducted in male participants.Objective:To evaluate the medium to long-term effects of two, low-fat, hypocaloric diets differing in carbohydrate:protein ratio on body composition and cardiometabolic health outcomes in overweight and obese males.Design:One hundred and twenty males (age 50.8±9.3 (s.d.) years, body mass index 33.0±3.9 kg m(-2)) were randomly assigned and consumed a low-fat, isocaloric, energy-restricted diet (7 MJ per day) with either HP (protein:carbohydrate:fat %energy, 35:40:25) or high carbohydrate (HC; 17:58:25). Body weight, body composition and cardiometabolic risk factors were assessed at baseline and after 12 and 52 weeks.Results:Sixty-eight participants completed the study (HP, n=33; HC, n=35). At 1 year both the groups experienced similar reductions in body weight (HP, -12.3±8.0 kg (-12%); HC, -10.9±8.6 kg (-11%); P=0.83 time × group interaction) and fat mass (-9.9±6.0 kg (-27%) vs -7.3±5.8 kg (-22%); P=0.11). Participants who consumed the HP diet lost less fat-free mass (-2.6±3.7 kg (-4%) vs -3.8±4.7 kg (-6%); P<0.01). Both groups experienced similar increases in high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (8%) and reductions in total cholesterol (-7%), low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (-9%), triglycerides (-24%), glucose (-3%), insulin (-38%), blood pressure (-7/-12%) and C-reactive protein (-29%), (P0.14).Conclusion:In overweight and obese men, both a HP and HC diet reduced body weight and improved cardiometabolic risk factors. Consumption of a HP diet was more effective for improving body composition compared with an HC diet.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23448804

[The True Adonis]

I think there are a few studies knocking around(like the one below) that suggest that different macro breakdowns when dieting give differing results in terms of body composition.


Background:A high-protein (HP), low-fat weight-loss diet may be advantageous for improving cardiometabolic health outcomes and body composition. To date, only limited research has been conducted in male participants.Objective:To evaluate the medium to long-term effects of two, low-fat, hypocaloric diets differing in carbohydrate:protein ratio on body composition and cardiometabolic health outcomes in overweight and obese males.Design:One hundred and twenty males (age 50.8±9.3 (s.d.) years, body mass index 33.0±3.9 kg m(-2)) were randomly assigned and consumed a low-fat, isocaloric, energy-restricted diet (7 MJ per day) with either HP (protein:carbohydrate:fat %energy, 35:40:25) or high carbohydrate (HC; 17:58:25). Body weight, body composition and cardiometabolic risk factors were assessed at baseline and after 12 and 52 weeks.Results:Sixty-eight participants completed the study (HP, n=33; HC, n=35). At 1 year both the groups experienced similar reductions in body weight (HP, -12.3±8.0 kg (-12%); HC, -10.9±8.6 kg (-11%); P=0.83 time × group interaction) and fat mass (-9.9±6.0 kg (-27%) vs -7.3±5.8 kg (-22%); P=0.11). Participants who consumed the HP diet lost less fat-free mass (-2.6±3.7 kg (-4%) vs -3.8±4.7 kg (-6%); P<0.01). Both groups experienced similar increases in high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (8%) and reductions in total cholesterol (-7%), low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (-9%), triglycerides (-24%), glucose (-3%), insulin (-38%), blood pressure (-7/-12%) and C-reactive protein (-29%), (P0.14).Conclusion:In overweight and obese men, both a HP and HC diet reduced body weight and improved cardiometabolic risk factors. Consumption of a HP diet was more effective for improving body composition compared with an HC diet.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23448804

Not that it matters really, but both results are about the same and within margin of error percentage wise.  In other words both outcomes were virtually the same and it really made no difference either approach. 

Especially if you were going by the mirror.  Totally insignificant.

[Rami]

does any one know how to strength train while dieting?

[chaos]

does any one know how to strength train while dieting?

Lift heavy shit.

[Mr Nobody]

Lift heavy shit.

This ^^.

[chaos]

That^^.

[chaos]

a dozen halotestin pre workout

All natural

[Krankenstein]

That^^.

...and the other thing

[Conker]

Not that it matters really, but both results are about the same and within margin of error percentage wise.  In other words both outcomes were virtually the same and it really made no difference either approach. 

Especially if you were going by the mirror.  Totally insignificant.

Body composition doesn't really matter when dieting? 

Also the High P group lost 5% more overall weight and held onto 2% more muscle ....I would say that is a pretty significant difference...And it is worth bearing in mind that most BB style diets would be far more extreme(in terms of high protein) so the difference may be even more pronounced with a typical BB diet.


And another

Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
This study assessed the effectiveness of a prescribed weight-loss diet with 0.8 versus 1.4 g protein·kg(-1) day(-1) on changes in weight, body composition, indices of metabolic syndrome, and resting energy expenditure (REE) in overweight and obese men.
DESIGN AND METHODS:
Men were randomized to groups that consumed diets containing 750 kcal day(-1) less than daily energy needs for weight maintenance with either normal protein (NP, n = 21) or higher protein (HP, n = 22) content for 12 weeks. The macronutrient distributions of the NP and HP diets were 25:60:15, and 25:50:25 percent energy from fat, carbohydrate, and protein, respectively. Assessments were made pre and post intervention. The subjects were retrospectively subgrouped into overweight and obese groups.
RESULTS AND CONCLUSION:
Both diet groups lost comparable body weight and fat. The HP group lost less lean body mass than the NP group (-1.9 ± 0.3 vs. -3.0 ± 0.4 kg). The effects of protein and BMI status on lean body mass loss were additive. The reductions in total cholesterol, HDL-C, triacylglycerol, glucose, and insulin, along with LDL-C, total cholesterol-to-HDL-C ratio, and HOMA-IR, were not statistically different between NP and HP. Likewise, macronutrient distributions of the diet did not affect the reductions in REE, and blood pressure. In conclusion, energy restriction effectively improves multiple clinical indicators of cardiovascular health and glucose control, and consumption of a higher-protein diet and accomplishing weight loss when overweight versus obese help men preserve lean body mass over a short period of time.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23592676