Mike Mentzer - Diet Philosophy

[Primary Captain]

Hey bros trying to get my diet down so that i can do my shopping week to week and just get what i need. Im trying to BULK. 5'10 200 right now. natty.(for now lol) but i was just reading Mike Mentzers Heavy Duty Nutrition ebook.
and in his ebook he gives a 6,000 calorie a day diet which looks like this. I usually eat higher carbs and moderate protein putting on size,that seems to work for me. but i just want to see what you bros think of this diet and should i work with it. it seems simple. her it is:
Breakfast:
1/2 cup orange juice
1 cup oatmeal
1 cup lowfat milk
1 slice toast
1 tbs butter
total cals:675
snack:
1 peanut butter sandwich
1 banana
1 cup grape juice
total cals:485
lunch:
4 pieces fried chicken,french fries or baked potato w/butter,green salad w/blue cheese
1 scoop ice cream
2 granola cookies
1 cup lowfat milk
total cals:1500
snack:
1 cup dried fruit
1 1/2 cups milk
total cals:600
dinner:
1 cup cream of mushroom soup
1 beef sirloin(6 oz)
1 dinner roll and butter
1 cup mixed veggies
1 slice of pie with beverage
total cals:1650
snack:
1 cup mixed nuts without salt
1 cup cocoa
total cals:1050
daily total cals:6,000

he doesnt give anything about protein or carbs,but thats why i posted this to see if anyone understood, see if it is worth trying. thank you
  

[Borracho]

you need more calories bro

[Powerlift66]

3 days worth of food for me right there...

[SmallPole]

who the fuck needs 6k kcal a day 

[dj181]

give it a try, and if you start putting on too much fat then just readjust your calories and lower them back down

this shit is VERY SIMPLE, and it ain't no goddamn rocket science

[_aj_]

Cut the cals in half and drop the wheat-based carbs and sugary shit (grape juice, orange juice, ice cream, cookies (really?)).

[Mr Nobody]

Drop protein to 20 grams a day.

[tommywishbone]

I talked about diet and supps with Mike many times- I just don't see him supporting that type of high calorie approach, at anytime, bulking, maintaining, whenever.   No doubt you would put on weight using the plan you described but you're going to get soft, real soft. Lose the bread & butter, soup, juice and desserts from that diet and you'll still be close to 4,000 cals per day.

[anabolichalo]

this shit has been done a million times on getbig

even with screen caps of the book page etc

[Childish///AMG]

That's a lot of "Cals" keep us posted

[Krankenstein]

Drop protein to 20 grams a day.

Are you trying to give him kidney failure?

The MAX someone should need is MAYBE 10 - 12 gms.  UGH, GetBig Bro science at its best

[no one]

eat when your hungry and dont eat when your not and take anabolics. how hard can it be?

[Mr Nobody]

Are you trying to give him kidney failure?

The MAX someone should need is MAYBE 10 - 12 gms.  UGH, GetBig Bro science at its best

Just messing around here you need around 1 gram bodyweight and can gain the rest gets pissed out unless on steroids.

[Coach is Back!]

you need more calories bro

lol

[Hulkotron]

Yes you will never make consistent gains in a paltry 6000 kcal a day, get real "bro".

[Krankenstein]

Just messing around here you need around 1 gram bodyweight and can gain the rest gets pissed out unless on steroids.

Good, I am glad you came to your senses.  I personally only eat 3 egg whites a day.  The rest from Coconut oil.

[BB]

To properly implement Mentzer's diet philosophy you also need tons of amphetamines and Arnold's hitmen chasing you around LA to make sure you burn off any calories not used.

[dj181]

To properly implement Mentzer's diet philosophy you also need tons of amphetamines and Arnold's hitmen chasing you around LA to make sure you burn off any calories not used.

lol

don't forget AJ's loaded gun aimed at your temple

[Mr Nobody]

Good, I am glad you came to your senses.  I personally only eat 3 egg whites a day.  The rest from Coconut oil.

Saving money it seems.

[AVBG]

I talked about diet and supps with Mike many times- I just don't see him supporting that type of high calorie approach, at anytime, bulking, maintaining, whenever.   No doubt you would put on weight using the plan you described but you're going to get soft, real soft. Lose the bread & butter, soup, juice and desserts from that diet and you'll still be close to 4,000 cals per day.

Best advice of the thread.

[The Idol]

Yes you will never make consistent gains in a paltry 6000 kcal a day, get real "bro".

^
Another asshole who doesn't even lift.

[Wiggs]

This guy can't be for real.

[OTHstrong]

eat when your hungry and dont eat when your not and take anabolics. how hard can it be?

horrible idea.

I am hungry 24/7, I would be Orca fat if I followed that.

[Disgusted]

I don't recall Mike ever advocating such a diet although I know that he pigged out heavily at times.

[Mr Nobody]

Probably caused him to run down the road naked at night ie cardio.