Mike Mentzer - Diet Philosophy

[Rudee]

You could probably get away eating like that in your 20's if you're reasonably active, but once you hit your 30's and your metabolism starts slowing down, that diet is going to make you fat very quickly.

[ob205]

Mentzer stated you only need like 60 extra calories a day above maintenance to build muscle.  As for contest dieting it was very en vogue at the time for them to do go sub 1000 cals a day.

[NelsonMuntz]

I love bulking diets that are full bore with the junk food yet only 1/2 cup of orange juice

[dj181]

found this on another site, and it's a Brit talking about his experience with meeting Mentzer in a seminar that he gave back in the 80's

here's a link to the full article: http://www.strength-oldschool.com/topic/1954-mike-mentzer/

"Jones thinks he's right about everything! You cannot debate with him because he won't listen to any argument and never stops talking- the man is a true genius but he is a f--king c--t and no one can stand working for him for long (what about Ell Darden then?But I dare not interrupt as Mike was getting hot under the collar again!)."The most amazing night I ever had was an evening at Arthur's with Joe Weider and (cannot remember for sure but others may have been Ell Darden and Casey Viator, but Mike definitely said Weider was there)others. Arthur never stopped talking and it was the most scientific indepth talk about training ever! No one else got a chance to speak and Joe looked stunned because Arthur's stuff was beyond him, that's why Joe was afraid of Nautilus and tried to put them down in his magazines. Joe acted disgracefully doing that but he had to be number one in the bodybuilding world so came out with several articles supposedly written by his champions saying they tried out Nautilus machines and they did not work - f--king bullshit lies! Hey, Sergio Oliva trained with Arthur for awhile in 1972 and was in his best shape ever that year in the Olympia but Joe wanted Arnold to stay on top so that's what happened. Sergio got f--king screwed and quit the IFBB for years. I know what he felt like because I was shafted in 1980 and they gave the O to Arnold again when he should have lost."

[trapz101]

again a little part of the story reserved for the 1980 olympia

[Purge_WTF]

Mentzer seemed like a rather hostile guy. He had every right to be hostile concerning Arnold's "comeback", but still.

[jprc10]

Sergio did not train with Jones in 1972 for the Olympia, that is a lie most HIT people use all the time and clearly Mentzer did it then as well.
Actually, Sergio trained with Jones in 1971 for about 2 months in preparation for the Mr. Universe.
 

[dj181]

"Jones thinks he's right about everything! You cannot debate with him because he won't listen to any argument and never stops talking- the man is a true genius but he is a f--king c--t and no one can stand working for him for long

this is the point that i found to be very interesting

[Submissionfytr]

Anyone else note the comments on the other thread about Mentzer seminar?  "before he went all phisilophisol?[spelling] he was an admirer of ayn rand .perhaps thats why he turned to fags and booze later on.i remember"

I keep hearing stories of drugs and running around naked, drinking bottles of Jack like water, etc. How far did Mike Mentzer really fall???

[BDsauce]

[Irongrip400]

Yea. Have you learned nothing about this industry?

[Addadude]

"Fags" is British slang for cigarettes.

[Viking11]

Fags are cigarettes. Devoted Ayn Rand followers must smoke them. Ok not really, but during the 50s- 80s they almost all did.

[cswol]

           

looks like mentzer took arnolds advice

[Teutonic Knight]

Talking trash without any proof, post facts not idiotic gossips about M.M.

[cswol]

[arce1988]

 Mike M. did gay for pay?

[dj181]

no, but he did believe that Arthur Jones was God at one point

[Thespritz0]

Anyone else note the comments on the other thread about Mentzer seminar?  "before he went all phisilophisol?[spelling] he was an admirer of ayn rand .perhaps thats why he turned to fags and booze later on.i remember"

I keep hearing stories of drugs and running around naked, drinking bottles of Jack like water, etc. How far did Mike Mentzer really fall???

^^
"Fags and Booze" that's a BRITISH term for CIGARETTES and ALCOHOL, get it right before slandering a normal dude, Mike Mentzer had a fiance for years (Cathy Gelfo) and dated many girls after that.

[LATS]

I didnt know him well but I never heard anyone ever accuse mike of being gay.. Where does this shit get started.?

[240_Iz_Nutz]

That is pretty killer pic too. Looks awesome

[jwb]

That was his best shape ever at the 1978 mr universe.

Mike seemed to think he looked that good in 1979 and 1980. He didn't.

[Teutonic Knight]

That was his best shape ever at the 1978 mr universe.

Mike seemed to think he looked that good in 1979 and 1980. He didn't.

Oddly    nobody (or hardly ever) talks about how Ludwig Shusterich over ruled
judges for Mr.Olympia 1966, because L.Scot signed contract for series
of seminars (Weiders promo) in Europe 

[theredeemer]

Yea. Have you learned nothing about this industry?

x2

[closeline]

Anyone else note the comments on the other thread about Mentzer seminar?  "before he went all phisilophisol?[spelling] he was an admirer of ayn rand .perhaps thats why he turned to fags and booze later on.i remember"

I keep hearing stories of drugs and running around naked, drinking bottles of Jack like water, etc. How far did Mike Mentzer really fall???

everyone with high intelligenc and questioning sense of life will go crazy in this fucked world