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Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
Thursday, 30 May 2013 By Lisa Barron and Kathleen Walter

Scott Rasmussen, founder and president of Rasmussen Reports, says there are signs the trio of scandals surrounding the Obama administration could cause more serious problems for the president and the Democratic Party if they persist.

Speaking to Newsmax TV, the pollster and political analyst explained: "As some people argue, his job approval ratings have already been hurt because they should be going up. The economy is getting stronger, the stock market is setting records, and the president's job approval's not going anywhere."

He continued, "When we look at a question of, say, who do you trust more on the issue of ethics and corruption, it used to be Democrats had a big edge on the issue but now with the scandals and controversy, the Republicans have a slight advantage; there's been a 10-point swing on that."

As for the Internal Revenue Service's targeting of conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status, Rasmussen said, "Fifty seven percent believe that the IRS really did target people and they don't buy the notion that it was some low-level people at the Cincinnati office. Sixty-five percent believe the decisions came from Washington at either the IRS headquarters or the White House."

In addition, he said of Obama, "We do know that his overall efforts, his desire, his whole public life has been spent on the mission to restore faith in the federal government, trust in the federal government. That was an uphill fight to begin with; it's probably an unwinnable fight at this point."
As for how the scandals might help the Republicans in the 2014 midterm elections, Rasmussen said public opinion is now "marginally in favor" of the GOP.

"In the last five weeks Republicans have been ahead on the generic congressional ballots twice, Democrats, three times. We saw that same kind of balance going back and forth in April and May of 2009 and then gradually the Republican wave began to build," he said.

"So we'll be watching over this summer. If the scandals pick up and the generic ballot begins to move in the Republican direction, you'll see definitely that's going to help."

On top of the scandals, Republicans might also be able to capitalize on the rollout of Obamacare, according to Rasmussen. "It's likely to run into some administration hurdles, some bureaucratic issues, but it's also running into the fact that it has never become popular and that's going to be a pretty healthy drag on Democrats in the 2014 elections," he said.

Assessing the field of potential GOP contenders in the 2016 presidential race, Rasmussen said he does not think former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, or House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan will win the Republican nomination.

He did not rule out Florida Sen. Marco Rubio becoming the nominee and he called Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul "a serious contender," noting that the IRS scandal has boosted public opinion of the tea party.

"The tea party right now is viewed favorably by 44 percent of voters nationwide. That's up 14 points from before the targeting," he said, adding: "Eighty percent of Republicans now have a favorable opinion of the tea party. That's a big jump. There's been this divide between the Republican establishment who really wanted to protect themselves from the tea party . . . Now, the IRS has put them all on the same team and that unity could not have been achieved in any other way."

Urgent: Is Obama Telling the Truth on IRS, Benghazi Scandals?

On the Democratic side, Rasmussen is not optimistic about Hillary Rodham Clinton's prospects in 2016.
"I have a very hard time believing Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee," he said. "Benghazi is certainly not going to help but there will be other factors. We just don’t know what the Democratic field is going to look like."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/rasmussen-obama-democrats-scandals/2013/05/30/id/507178

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2013, 01:19:04 PM »
hahahahahaahhahahahaha they also said romney was winning  :D :D :D :D :D :D some never learn

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2013, 02:34:33 PM »
No your right, this won't bother Obama and the Dems a bit......they basically surpressed all this shit so they could win last year. Imagine if this shit hit last July or later. Hell the bs in Libya should have sunk his ass if all this came out then. But the media covered for the piece of shit, the same media Obama is screwing with now. They're all slowly turning on him.
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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2013, 04:04:21 PM »
hahahahahaahhahahahaha they also said romney was winning  :D :D :D :D :D :D some never lear

How about letting us know why this guy should be president let alone remain president. BTW, i dont even remotely consider him a leader let alone a "president". please tell us.

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2013, 04:09:31 PM »
How about letting us know why this guy should be president let alone remain president. BTW, i dont even remotely consider him a leader let alone a "president". please tell us.

how  about elected in a LANDSLIDE TWICE

you know he could run again and win if there weren't term limits

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2013, 05:18:23 PM »
How about letting us know why this guy should be president let alone remain president. BTW, i dont even remotely consider him a leader let alone a "president". please tell us.

Because your party ran shitty candidates in two elections.  That's why.  Maybe you didn't pray hard enough.

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2013, 05:25:46 PM »
No your right, this won't bother Obama and the Dems a bit......they basically surpressed all this shit so they could win last year. Imagine if this shit hit last July or later. Hell the bs in Libya should have sunk his ass if all this came out then. But the media covered for the piece of shit, the same media Obama is screwing with now. They're all slowly turning on him.

Yep.  I think it was suppressed too.  Luckiest politician of my lifetime. 

Really dumb to target his friends too. 

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2013, 05:35:32 PM »
No your right, this won't bother Obama and the Dems a bit......they basically surpressed all this shit so they could win last year. Imagine if this shit hit last July or later. Hell the bs in Libya should have sunk his ass if all this came out then. But the media covered for the piece of shit, the same media Obama is screwing with now. They're all slowly turning on him.

there was nothing to come out
it's the same old non-story over and over again

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2013, 06:09:17 PM »
NON STORY....which scandal or part of 4 scandals is the non story exactly. Will it be a non story when Holder is finally shitcanned...or maybe it will be a non story when the Repubs take the senate...you douchbags will certainly not get the House. Maybe it will be a non story when they grab the emails on Bengazi tieing the worthless libs fucks in Obama's re-election campaign to the cover up. Your douchbag is getting everything he deserves....he should emulate the Roman emperor's.
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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2013, 06:16:56 PM »
NON STORY....which scandal or part of 4 scandals is the non story exactly. Will it be a non story when Holder is finally shitcanned...or maybe it will be a non story when the Repubs take the senate...you douchbags will certainly not get the House. Maybe it will be a non story when they grab the emails on Bengazi tieing the worthless libs fucks in Obama's re-election campaign to the cover up. Your douchbag is getting everything he deserves....he should emulate the Roman emperor's.

Sounds like 2016 is a long way off for you.

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2013, 06:18:41 PM »
NON STORY....which scandal or part of 4 scandals is the non story exactly. Will it be a non story when Holder is finally shitcanned...or maybe it will be a non story when the Repubs take the senate...you douchbags will certainly not get the House. Maybe it will be a non story when they grab the emails on Bengazi tieing the worthless libs fucks in Obama's re-election campaign to the cover up. Your douchbag is getting everything he deserves....he should emulate the Roman emperor's.

Every single one of these is a non-scandal

Well, the IRS thing is actually a scandal but not in the way that you think.  The real scandal is that the IRS has granted tax exempt status for groups that are solely engaged in politics which is specifically not allowed in the code.  Hopefully they will start looking into it because when they do they will find all kinds of groups (from both parties) who have violated the law and then the scandal will be why the IRS didn't do MORE oversight

btw - Repubs know this which is why they will never let this become anything more than something they can bitch and moan about but they if they are smart they will know a true investigation can hurt them more than Obama (which it won't touch either way)

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2013, 06:25:14 PM »
Symbolic outrage.

When making 37 symbolic votes to repel Obamacare doesn't work, you have to rely on whining and crying about every little thing you can.  Reality be damned.

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2013, 06:45:52 PM »
Every single one of these is a non-scandal

Well, the IRS thing is actually a scandal but not in the way that you think.  The real scandal is that the IRS has granted tax exempt status for groups that are solely engaged in politics which is specifically not allowed in the code.  Hopefully they will start looking into it because when they do they will find all kinds of groups (from both parties) who have violated the law and then the scandal will be why the IRS didn't do MORE oversight

btw - Repubs know this which is why they will never let this become anything more than something they can bitch and moan about but they if they are smart they will know a true investigation can hurt them more than Obama (which it won't touch either way)

76% of Americans think the IRS scandal should have a special investigator while only 16% are opposed. Even 68% of Democrats support it. 

You are in the minority, you bitter, angry stalker.

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2013, 07:48:18 PM »
76% of Americans think the IRS scandal should have a special investigator while only 16% are opposed. Even 68% of Democrats support it.  

You are in the minority, you bitter, angry stalker.

says the only actual stalker on this board

I'm all for an investigation because it will ultimately reveal that many many of these 501c4's are in violation of the law

btw - someone might want to figure out if any laws were broken first (hint - there were almost certainly no laws broken by the IRS which is why Boehner calling for someone to go to jail is especially stupid)

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2013, 09:27:08 PM »
hahahahahaahhahahahaha they also said romney was winning  :D :D :D :D :D :D some never learn


They were wrong in 2012.  Very wrong. They threw science out the window - and that's OKAY.

They're a business. They have NO moral obligation to 100% report the facts.  They want to be the DEFAULT polling organization for companies like FOX and getbiggers (who are indeed still trusting them).

The same way MSNBC reports the "news" a bit rosier for libs, is how Rass reports the election predictions.  It's totally cool.  I mean, anyone who says they're an unbiased, totally honest organization is full of horse shite, lmao, but yeah... I bet nate silver would do the same thing is Romney was actually going to win, and he wanted to be used by MSNBC continually.

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2013, 10:14:23 PM »
how  about elected in a LANDSLIDE TWICE

you know he could run again and win if there weren't term limits

You still don't quite get it, do you?

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2013, 08:27:55 AM »
You still don't quite get it, do you?

LOL - feel free to tell me what I am missing

this should be hilarious

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2013, 09:07:55 AM »
LOL - feel free to tell me what I am missing

this should be hilarious

Why has Holder, the IRS and all those involved apologized if they did nothing wrong? 

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2013, 09:12:34 AM »
Why has Holder, the IRS and all those involved apologized if they did nothing wrong? 

So?

Richard CLarke apologized for 911.  Are you insinuating he did something wrong?

WASHINGTON  — The former counterterrorism chief in the Bush and Clinton White Houses apologized Wednesday to the families of the victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, saying, “Your government failed you.” But he placed the bulk of the blame on President Bush, accusing his administration of not making terrorism “an urgent issue.”

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4568982/ns/us_news-security/t/government-failed-you-clarke-testifies/#.UajLx0BQHTQ

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2013, 10:43:21 AM »
 I disagree that they are " non scandals".. When the huffington post and Chris Mathews call them scandals then they are scandals.. They love this admin... And are using the word without effort..

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2013, 11:01:09 AM »
I disagree that they are " non scandals".. When the huffington post and Chris Mathews call them scandals then they are scandals.. They love this admin... And are using the word without effort..

so that's the new standard now ?

the IRS scandal will turn out to be a scandal for different reasons

When they investigate they will find out that they should have been scrutinizing ALL of these applications for 501c4 more closely and that many of them do not qualify for tax exempt status and that many of them lied about what they would be doing.   This will be the scandal and the fact that the IRS Determination Unit using "tea party" "patriot" and "politically sounding names" will be shown to have been an insufficient standard and that more scrutiny should have been given to all of these applications

keep in mind these tax exempt groups and their activities (the ones on both sides of the political aisle) are being subsidized by you and me 

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2013, 11:01:46 AM »

How much are you paid to flak for O-Scandal?



so that's the new standard now ?

the IRS scandal will turn out to be a scandal for different reasons

When they investigate they will find out that they should have been scrutinizing ALL of these applications for 501c4 more closely and that many of them do not qualify for tax exempt status and that many of them lied about what they would be doing.   This will be the scandal and the fact that the IRS Determination Unit using "tea party" "patriot" and "politically sounding names" will be shown to have been an insufficient standard and that more scrutiny should have been given to all of these applications

keep in mind these tax exempt groups and their activities (the ones on both sides of the political aisle) are being subsidized by you and me 

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2013, 11:13:38 AM »
How much are you paid to flak for O-Scandal?

same amount as they pay you

btw - why not try addressing the content of my post

do you think the 501c4 status has been abused with the HELP (or dereliction of duty) of the IRS

Here is how the code was written

http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Other-Non-Profits/Social-Welfare-Organizations
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Social Welfare Organizations

To be tax-exempt as a social welfare organization described in Internal Revenue Code (IRC) section 501(c)(4), an organization must not be organized for profit and must be operated exclusively to promote social welfare. The earnings of a section 501(c)(4) organization may not inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. If the organization engages in an excess benefit transaction with a person having substantial influence over the organization, an excise tax may be imposed on the person and any managers agreeing to the transaction. See Introduction to IRC 4958 for more information about this excise tax. For a more detailed discussion of the exemption requirements for section 501(c)(4) organizations, see IRC 501(c)(4) Organizations. For more information about applying for exemption, see Application for Recognition of Exemption.
To be operated exclusively to promote social welfare, an organization must operate primarily to further the common good and general welfare of the people of the community (such as by bringing about civic betterment and social improvements). For example, an organization that restricts the use of its facilities to employees of selected corporations and their guests is primarily benefiting a private group rather than the community and, therefore, does not qualify as a section 501(c)(4) organization. Similarly, an organization formed to represent member-tenants of an apartment complex does not qualify, because its activities benefit the member-tenants and not all tenants in the community, while an organization formed to promote the legal rights of all tenants in a particular community may qualify under section 501(c)(4) as a social welfare organization. An organization is not operated primarily for the promotion of social welfare if its primary activity is operating a social club for the benefit, pleasure or recreation of its members, or is carrying on a business with the general public in a manner similar to organizations operated for profit link].
Seeking legislation germane to the organization's programs is a permissible means of attaining social welfare purposes. Thus, a section 501(c)(4) social welfare organization may further its exempt purposes through lobbying as its primary activity without jeopardizing its exempt status. An organization that has lost its section 501(c)(3) status due to substantial attempts to influence legislation may not thereafter qualify as a section 501(c)(4) organization. In addition, a section 501(c)(4) organization that engages in lobbying may be required to either provide notice to its members regarding the percentage of dues paid that are applicable to lobbying activities or pay a proxy tax. For more information, see Lobbying Issues .

The promotion of social welfare does not include direct or indirect participation or intervention in political campaigns on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office. However, a section 501(c)(4) social welfare organization may engage in some political activities, so long as that is not its primary activity. However, any expenditure it makes for political activities may be subject to tax[/u] under section 527(f). For further information regarding political and lobbying activities of section 501(c) organizations, see Election Year Issues, Political Campaign and Lobbying Activities of IRC 501(c)(4), (c)(5), and (c)(6) Organizations, and Revenue Ruling 2004-6.

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2013, 11:16:51 AM »
The issue is selective enforcement based on political ideaology.  There are liberal groups who were not targeted who do the same thing.

I know being a radical leftist totalitarian Marxist you see no issue with ends justifying the means, but the law forbids this type of corruption. 

same amount as they pay you

btw - why not try addressing the content of my post

do you think the 501c4 status has been abused with the HELP (or dereliction of duty) of the IRS

Here is how the code was written

http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Other-Non-Profits/Social-Welfare-Organizations

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Re: Rasmussen: Scandals Could Drag Down Obama, Democrats in 2014
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2013, 11:21:42 AM »
The issue is selective enforcement based on political ideaology.  There are liberal groups who were not targeted who do the same thing.

I know being a radical leftist totalitarian Marxist you see no issue with ends justifying the means, but the law forbids this type of corruption.  


I think you mean selective scrutiny because no teabagger group was denied tax exempt status (nor did they even need to apply for it under the code).   A person for the IRS explained that if the applications for this status come in they need to develop some criteria for evaluation.  The scandal (if any) will be that they did not scrutinize all of these groups enough and the larger scandal will be the abuse of this entire section of the tax code by group organized solely for political purposes (and if they lied about that in their application they will have problems).