Effort to recall Arpaio fails

[dario73]

TUCSON -- Despite a recent court ruling that the department run by Maricopa County’s top cop used racial profiling in his quest to crack down on illegal immigration, a recall effort against Sheriff Joe Arpaio has failed.

On Thursday, members of Respect Arizona and Citizens for a Better Arizona -- who launched the recall effort against Arpaio -- failed to gather the necessary 335,000 valid voter signatures by the 5 p.m. deadline. The aim was to force a recall election.

Activists behind the recall effort would not say how many signatures they were short. Randy Parraz, president of Citizens for Better Arizona, only said the two groups had collected close to 300,000 signatures.

Arpaio, reelected in November, blasted the group in a prepared statement.

“After months of name calling, after the disparaging effigies and theatrics … this latest recall effort has failed,” Arpaio said. "This effort failed because the good people of Maricopa County, whom I'm honored to serve, rejected the wrongheaded idea of overturning an election."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ff-arpaio-recall-fails-20130530,0,7548060.story

[Chadwick The Beta]

he doesn't coddle to poor, defenseless, misunderstood convicts

another fail by the left   hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha

[Agnostic007]

He's an idiot but when has that ever been a criteria for recall elections? Voters get what they get..

[240 is Back]

i always wondered - did he use state resources on the obama birth cer thing, or was that all private donations?

[Coach is Back!]

i always wondered - did he use state resources on the obama birth cer thing, or was that all private donations?

It was with private funds. And he proved with hard concrete evidence, that it was a fake. Mainstream didnt want to have anything to do with it. Obama is a fraud.

[Agnostic007]

It was with private funds. And he proved with hard concrete evidence, that it was a fake. Mainstream didnt want to have anything to do with it. Obama is a fraud.

except.... he didn't.. I love a good gotcha as much as the next guy..but mainstream didn't jump on it because it was not proven..

[George Whorewell]

Common sense is racism.

Sheriff Joe should have been investigating the Mexican drug cartels operating on the border who have been using Swedish, Indonesian and Icelandic nationals trying to enter the country illegally.

Fairness means incompetent and ineffective police work.

Forward!

[Coach is Back!]

except.... he didn't.. I love a good gotcha as much as the next guy..but mainstream didn't jump on it because it was not proven..

PHOENIX, ARIZONA--- In a highly anticipated press conference, embattled Maricopa County, Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio offered what he claims is undeniable proof that President Barack Obama's birth certificate is a fraud.
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Flanked by experts in the field of law enforcement and document analysis, Arapio stated his committee's findings that the long-form birth certificate released by the White House in an attempt to quiet allegations that Obama was not a natural born U.S. citizen was not only fake, but "an imminent threat to national security and U.S. immigration laws".

The target of frequent criticism by the White House, Arpaio formed his "Cold Case Posse" to investigate the commander-in-chief's eligibility to hold the Oval Office after suspicions rose questioning the president's true nation of birth.

Although claiming to have been born in Hawaii, the president's school records list Kenya as Obama's place of birth. When confronted with these findings, the White House had initially claimed the discrepancy was simply an error, but the president's refusal to release a state issued birth certificate raised the suspicion of Arpaio, along with many of the president's strongest opponents.

Under mounting pressure to prove the president's eligibility to hold office, the White House to took the unprecedented step of releasing what they said was the president's official, state issued birth certificate listing Hawaii as his place of birth.

The release did little to ease suspicions and speculation only grew as it was discovered that Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8 requires only that a person be an established resident of Hawaii, not necessarily a U.S. citizen, and pay taxes there for one year in order for an out-of-state or foreign-born person to register with an official Hawaii birth certificate.

Urged by citizens of his state and high profile supporters such as Donald Trump and Secretary of State Ken Bennett, Arpaio announced that he, along with a carefully selected team of detectives and document experts would fly to Hawaii to investigate the legitimacy of the president's birth certificate.

Before announcing his team's findings, Arpaio came out swinging against much of the liberal media stating "You have demeaned this investigation at every turn" adding "your contempt about the subject and me for pursuing it has been duly noted.”

Results of the team's investigation were announced by lead investigator, Mike Zullo, who stated simply, "that document is not real".

Among the committee's findings were inconsistencies in the a birth certificate coding system used in the document which did not match the coding system used at the time of Obama's birth, sworn statements by experts and forensic analysis proving that the document presented as original had, in fact, been altered.

Arpaio's findings were not cause for celebration, he said but instead, cause for grave concern for national security. “Although I am having a difficult time deciding who to forward this information to given the fact that the obvious choices report directly to the president, I cannot stand by and hold on to information that threatens to weaken national security,” said Arpaio.

According to statements given to World Net Daily, Sheriff Arpaio plans to move forward with his findings in order to uncover the truth about Obama's nationality.


http://www.examiner.com/article/sheriff-joe-arpaio-offers-indisputable-proof-obama-s-birth-certificate-a-fake

[240 is Back]

It was with private funds. And he proved with hard concrete evidence, that it was a fake. Mainstream didnt want to have anything to do with it. Obama is a fraud.

I agree.  I was a birther long before most on this forum, including 333386.

I can understand why MSNBC covers it up.  they're the obama network.  but why isn't fox starting EVERY news broadcast with it, 24/7?  It would invalidate every piece of legislation obama gave us - INCLUDING OBAMACARE. 

Why won't FOX tackle this issue?

[Coach is Back!]

I agree.  I was a birther long before most on this forum, including 333386.

I can understand why MSNBC covers it up.  they're the obama network.  but why isn't fox starting EVERY news broadcast with it, 24/7?  It would invalidate every piece of legislation obama gave us - INCLUDING OBAMACARE. 

Why won't FOX tackle this issue?

They do and did try to get the ball rolling but what do you when you get stonewalled?

[240 is Back]

They do and did try to get the ball rolling but what do you when you get stonewalled?

Sorry, but I don't buy "They tried to get the ball rolling".

This shit is THE MOST IMPORTANT issue of our day.  If true, it completely ends obamacare and everything else he's done.

They "did their job" by reporting it for a few weeks, then letting it quietly disappear?   Sheeeit, that's nuts.  It should be mentioned EVERY DAY.   It's not.  in fact, a lot of FOX pundits make fun of birtherism, don't they? 

[avxo]

I agree.  I was a birther long before most on this forum, including 333386.

You were an idiot before 333386? That's quite the feat...

It would invalidate every piece of legislation obama gave us - INCLUDING OBAMACARE.

Please... you may fancy yourself a Constitutional expert but the simple fact is this: if Obama was ineligible to hold the Office and was actively holding it, we would be in an unprecedented situation - something which had never happened before. No case law would control, and the Constitution doesn't explicitly address what should be done in such a case. One thing is certain: the Supreme Court would be very, very busy. To say anything more than that, unless you have some special insight into the mind of the nine supremes and the gift of foresight, is to put it bluntly, bullshit.

And yet here you are, stating with certainty that such an event would, unequivocally, "would invalidate every piece of legislation obama gave us." Why? Let's set our personal beliefs on Obamacare aside for a moment and let's look at some facts:

Was Obamacare legislation passed by the House and Senate, in accordance with the requirements laid out in the Constitution? Check.
Was Obamacare legislation, duly passed by the House and Senate, signed "into law" by Obama? Check.
Was Obama's signature required in order for the bill to become law? No.

So tell me you legal dilettante... if we assume that Obama wasn't eligible to hold the Office, how would his ineligibility automatically invalidate a law that was duly passed by Congress, as you asserted it would?

Why won't FOX tackle this issue?

Tackle which issue? The "Obama was born in Kenya" nonsense? Well, it could be because there's no issue. The President provided a birth certificate issued by State of Hawaii which, by itself, establishes his birthplace and citizenship under the laws of the United States. The State of Hawaii has repeatedly stated that the Birth Certificate provided by the President was issued by the State, that it's information matches the information on the State's vital records, and that the original long-form is on file with the appropriate State agency.

Tell me, what else doesn't FOX tackle asshole?

How FEMA Quadrant Codes to help tanks drive on the wrong side of the road during the martial law that's going to be declared any day now?

How about the issue of fluoride in the water which, somehow, facilitates a communist and/or socialist takeover by reducing cavities?

Or the issue of chemtrails which are used to control the population by making you, magically fire blanks? Shouldn't they be reporting about an issue that affects the balls of everyday Americans, especially now that this NWO plan has been thwarted by vinegar and a spray bottle:

[Coach is Back!]

You were an idiot before 333386? That's quite the feat...


Please... you may fancy yourself a Constitutional expert but the simple fact is this: if Obama was ineligible to hold the Office and was actively holding it, we would be in an unprecedented situation - something which had never happened before. No case law would control, and the Constitution doesn't explicitly address what should be done in such a case. One thing is certain: the Supreme Court would be very, very busy. To say anything more than that, unless you have some special insight into the mind of the nine supremes and the gift of foresight, is to put it bluntly, bullshit.

And yet here you are, stating with certainty that such an event would, unequivocally, "would invalidate every piece of legislation obama gave us." Why? Let's set our personal beliefs on Obamacare aside for a moment and let's look at some facts:

Was Obamacare legislation passed by the House and Senate, in accordance with the requirements laid out in the Constitution? Check.
Was Obamacare legislation, duly passed by the House and Senate, signed "into law" by Obama? Check.
Was Obama's signature required in order for the bill to become law? No.

So tell me you legal dilettante... if we assume that Obama wasn't eligible to hold the Office, how would his ineligibility automatically invalidate a law that was duly passed by Congress, as you asserted it would?


Tackle which issue? The "Obama was born in Kenya" nonsense? Well, it could be because there's no issue. The President provided a birth certificate issued by State of Hawaii which, by itself, establishes his birthplace and citizenship under the laws of the United States. The State of Hawaii has repeatedly stated that the Birth Certificate provided by the President was issued by the State, that it's information matches the information on the State's vital records, and that the original long-form is on file with the appropriate State agency.

Tell me, what else doesn't FOX tackle asshole?

How FEMA Quadrant Codes to help tanks drive on the wrong side of the road during the martial law that's going to be declared any day now?

How about the issue of fluoride in the water which, somehow, facilitates a communist and/or socialist takeover by reducing cavities?

Or the issue of chemtrails which are used to control the population by making you, magically fire blanks? Shouldn't they be reporting about an issue that affects the balls of everyday Americans, especially now that this NWO plan has been thwarted by vinegar and a spray bottle:

Because 1. Hawaii is one of the most liberal states in the union. 2. The "birth certificate" was only shown online and no hard copy has ever been produced..as required.

Now, again. Lets get to the commonsense part of this argument. Now REALLY think about this. Do you really think a now six term elected official (Sheriff) would actually put his reputation on the line with news conferences by saying he has solid PROOF of a forgery on Obama's birth certificate as well as the others who helped in the investigation if it wasn't true? You really think he would put his career as well as others on the line? Seriously?

Now, I could understand if this were some no name that no one has ever heard of...but it isn't!!

[240 is Back]

I was a birther while 333386 was not one yet.

My only Q is... why are all of the repubs in house/senate not saying anything?  Why are all 30 repub governors not saying something?  Why will fox news "cover" the story for a day to get viewers all riled up - and then focus on spring break or obama umbrella stories instead?

See, that is where the logic fails.  history has shown it's hard to keep a secret.  Hilary gave up her chance at 8 years in office, by ignoring the issue?  So that does give me some pause to wonder about birtherism at times. 

[doison]

Anti "profiling" measures are the dumbest things ever.  

If you take intelligent crime prevention off the table, why not just replace police officers with a monkey and roulette wheel?  

Monkeys are strong (you're not getting away) and roulette wheels are random and non-profiling.


Since my elderly grandmother is just as likely to be committing criminal acts as any other thug in Detroit it only makes sense that she is just as likely to be suspected of committing a crime.  Roulette wheels would give her this equal suspicion.

[avxo]

Because 1. Hawaii is one of the most liberal states in the union.

So you allege that a vast conspiracy exists in Hawaii, a conspiracy in which hundreds, if not thousands of people, Democrats and Republicans, are complicit with the end of installing Obama in the Presidency? Really? Come on... I like that you say "let's get back to the common sense part of this argument." If you believe this nonsense you have exactly zero common sense; in fact I'd bet money that you are clinically insane.

2. The "birth certificate" was only shown online and no hard copy has ever been produced..as required.

As required where? Please quote the specific part of the Constitution or the U.S. Code in effect at the time was running for the Presidency that requires a "hard copy" of anything and provide evidence that Obama did not comply. Actually, please provide references to any requirement that Obama did not fulfill and please be specific. If you can't do that, sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.

Now, again. Lets get to the commonsense part of this argument. Now REALLY think about this. Do you really think a now six term elected official (Sheriff) would actually put his reputation on the line with news conferences by saying he has solid PROOF of a forgery on Obama's birth certificate as well as the others who helped in the investigation if it wasn't true? You really think he would put his career as well as others on the line? Seriously?

I think Arpaio already put his credibility on the line with this and he decisively lost - not unlike Donald Trump. He had nothing and nothing was produced in his numerous conferences. If he had any proof - even if not solid - he would have paraded it. Instead he makes vague references, provides no credible information, associates himself with Jerome Corsi and suggests that the scanned certificate was digitally manipulated - a claim which experts in computer forensics discredit.

Could this hurt his career? Perhaps, but it's doubtful. He's found his niche and he won't move from his little corner of the world - the people of Maricopa county keep electing him. Their reasons are their own and don't concern me.

Now, I could understand if this were some no name that no one has ever heard of...but it isn't!!

Yeah... Absolutely. Because Sherrif Joe - a media whore if there ever was one - would not want to put his name out there and silly his good name and the name of his office.

[Agnostic007]

I agree.  I was a birther long before most on this forum, including 333386.

I can understand why MSNBC covers it up.  they're the obama network.  but why isn't fox starting EVERY news broadcast with it, 24/7?  It would invalidate every piece of legislation obama gave us - INCLUDING OBAMACARE. 

Why won't FOX tackle this issue?

You know why.. there's nothing there

[LurkerNoMore]

Court: You cannot use race as a basis for law enforcement activities.

Sheriff Arpaio: We will appeal!

[dario73]

Court: You cannot use race as a basis for law enforcement activities.

Sheriff Arpaio: We will appeal!

TUCSON -- Despite a recent court ruling that the department run by Maricopa County’s top cop used racial profiling in his quest to crack down on illegal immigration, a recall effort against Sheriff Joe Arpaio has failed.

On Thursday, members of Respect Arizona and Citizens for a Better Arizona -- who launched the recall effort against Arpaio -- failed to gather the necessary 335,000 valid voter signatures by the 5 p.m. deadline. The aim was to force a recall election.

Activists behind the recall effort would not say how many signatures they were short. Randy Parraz, president of Citizens for Better Arizona, only said the two groups had collected close to 300,000 signatures.

Arpaio, reelected in November, blasted the group in a prepared statement.

“After months of name calling, after the disparaging effigies and theatrics … this latest recall effort has failed,” Arpaio said. "This effort failed because the good people of Maricopa County, whom I'm honored to serve, rejected the wrongheaded idea of overturning an election."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ff-arpaio-recall-fails-20130530,0,7548060.story

[LurkerNoMore]

Court: You cannot use race as a basis for law enforcement activities.

Sheriff Arpaio: We will appeal!

Obviously someone couldn't tell my post had nothing to do with the recall effort.

[loco]

Effort to close Guantanamo fails     

[Coach is Back!]

So you allege that a vast conspiracy exists in Hawaii, a conspiracy in which hundreds, if not thousands of people, Democrats and Republicans, are complicit with the end of installing Obama in the Presidency? Really? Come on... I like that you say "let's get back to the common sense part of this argument." If you believe this nonsense you have exactly zero common sense; in fact I'd bet money that you are clinically insane.

LOL..are you freaking kidding me? He has every liberal government in his back pocket. Can't believe you would even question this...but then again!


As required where? Please quote the specific part of the Constitution or the U.S. Code in effect at the time was running for the Presidency that requires a "hard copy" of anything and provide evidence that Obama did not comply. Actually, please provide references to any requirement that Obama did not fulfill and please be specific. If you can't do that, sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.

http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/2/essays/82/presidential-eligibility


I think Arpaio already put his credibility on the line with this and he decisively lost - not unlike Donald Trump. He had nothing and nothing was produced in his numerous conferences. If he had any proof - even if not solid - he would have paraded it. Instead he makes vague references, provides no credible information, associates himself with Jerome Corsi and suggests that the scanned certificate was digitally manipulated - a claim which experts in computer forensics discredit.

Could this hurt his career? Perhaps, but it's doubtful. He's found his niche and he won't move from his little corner of the world - the people of Maricopa county keep electing him. Their reasons are their own and don't concern me.

Yeah... Absolutely. Because Sherrif Joe - a media whore if there ever was one - would not want to put his name out there and silly his good name and the name of his office.

[OzmO]

   Obama then obviously has Illuminati connections as every lib is in his pocket.   lol  He must have them all blackmailed and under his spell because they know he wasn't born here and they are turning away fame and fortune for the Liberal Agenda to take over the world.

39% Unite!

It still amazes me the level of ignorance that people will force themselves to believe because of hate.  

[Agnostic007]

Can you imagine the career making moment when a journalist or reporter actually PROVES Obama is not a citizen? Now can you imagine ALL reporters, investigators, journalists ignoring this because of some vague conspiracy reason? Just doesn't pass the smell test..

[Coach is Back!]

 Obama then obviously has Illuminati connections as every lib is in his pocket.   lol  He must have them all blackmailed and under his spell because they know he wasn't born here and they are turning away fame and fortune for the Liberal Agenda to take over the world.

39% Unite!

It still amazes me the level of ignorance that people will force themselves to believe because of hate.  

How is it ignorant if the proof is there? I would say you're in denial if you think there isn't something to this. Everything that has been suspected about Obama has been factually true so far.