REPS. I've said this before but I'll say it again for those GETBIGGERS who may be new to this board or those of us with limited short-term, long-term memory (the medical term of which I have long forgotten a short time ago).
Back in them good old days, most of the individuals who partook in all forms of Weider ads were not paid a penny, nor a nickel, nor a dime.
Most simply got a thank-you and a photo or two in the magazine.
Sometimes!
BUT .... To the best of my memory (short term memory) I sort of recall that Mike Menzer was the first or second or third to make a personal complaint to Uncle Joe about not getting some sort of gratuity for the photos that Joe used in the magazines.
So, Joe...realizing the value of Mike's appearance in the magazines, made Mike an offer that he could not refuse .... but actually he really wanted to refuse that offer because he needed cold, hard cash at that precise moment of time and Joe would not be offering cold, hard cash.
SO Joe said that he could not pay Mike any cold, hard cash but instead of that non-payment of cold, hard cash .... he would give Mike a full page ad for anything Mike wanted to offer on that page to the bodybuilding pubic that were willing to and capable of reading bodybuilding ads way back then.
And since there weren't too many of those such individuals back in the good old days, Mike was sort of reluctant to accept Joe's offer until Uncle Joe explaind that that full page ad was worth about $5,000 if he wanted to pay for it on his own.
So Mike reluctantly took the offer figuring it was the best he was gonna get from Uncle Joe .... and went to work thinking of what to do with that full page,full color, $5,000 ad that Joe was going to give him without charge because Mike's photos in his magazine were somewhat of a necessity.
And the rest is history.
And if anyone has any interest in this small part of bodybuilding history and has never heard it .... feel free to go back on tis GetBig Board and look it up.
It weren't too long ago.
NOTE: Dave could have been an exception though because he was a Weider employee if my memory is still in working order.
If Dave reads this GetBig stuff, he may be willing to elaborate and correct me if I may be incorrect.
Which I possibly AIN'T!
But 'stupidity' seems pretty common on this Board ... and I may NOT be an exception.
It could be possible that 'History' is only what we THINK it is.