"IRS is the new N word" - MSNBC host - LMFAO!!!!

[Soul Crusher]

[Roger Bacon]

What in gods name is wrong with these liberal lunatics?  I thought the assholes that supported Bush were nuts, this shit is completely insane.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/350279/msnbcs-martin-bashir-says-irs-new-nr-charles-c-w-cooke
MSNBC’s Martin Bashir: ‘IRS’ Is the New ‘N****r’


By  Charles C. W. Cooke
June 5, 2013 5:18 PM
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The GOP is using the term “IRS” in place of the term “n****r,” MSNBC host Martin Bashir claimed on his Wednesday show.

“Republicans are using [the IRS scandal] as their latest weapon in the war against the black man in the White House,” he suggested. ”IRS” is the new “N****r.” Bashir gave a nod to the late Republican strategist Lee Atwater, to whom he attributed the subtle strategy.

[Dos Equis]

Idiot.  I watched the clip.  No wonder nobody watches that network. 

[drkaje]

Laugh all you like.

On some level, he's actually correct.

I'd rather people used the N-word when they actually mean N-word and not play political games with semantics.

[Soul Crusher]

Laugh all you like.

On some level, he's actually correct.

I'd rather people used the N-word when they actually mean N-word and not play political games with semantics.

Lol.   The IRS is a criminal organization that abused its power.   Has nothing to do w race other than the N's in the video learning line dancing on my dime.

[bears]

Martin Bashir =

before 2008 - looking out for "the people" by fighting government corruption accusing everyone from the top down of corruption

after 2008- consummate pragmatist who knows there must be a logical explanation for anything that the government does that seems untoward

[Dos Equis]

MSNBC's Bashir Selectively Edits 1981 Reagan Aide Remarks to Make Republicans Look Racist
By Noel Sheppard | June 06, 2013
 
NewsBusters reported Wednesday that MSNBC's Martin Bashir disgracefully accused Republicans of using the acronym "IRS" as the latest racist dog whistle in their "war against the black man in the White House."

It turns out that Bashir used a selectively edited quote of former Reagan aide Lee Atwater to make his pathetic case.

Mediaite's Noah Rothman pointed out Wednesday that Bashir took the supposedly offensive quote from a 1981 interview that Atwater did with Alexander Lamis, an associate professor at Case Western University.

Lamis later included the full text of this interview in his book "The Two-Party South."

Here's what Bashir cited Wednesday:

“You start out in 1954 by saying n*****, n*****, n*****. By 1968 you can’t say n*****. That hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like ‘forced busing,’ ‘states rights’ and all that stuff and you’re getting so abstract. Now you’re talking about cutting taxes. ‘We want to cut this’ is much more abstract than even the busing thing and a-hell of a lot more abstract than n*****, n*****.”

In bold is what Bashir edited out:

"You start out in 1954 by saying n*****, n*****, n*****. By 1968 you can’t say n*****. That hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like 'forced busing,' 'states rights' and all that stuff and you’re getting so abstract. Now you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I’m not saying that. But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, 'We want to cut this,' is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than n*****, n*****. So any way you look at it, race is coming on the backburner."

Big difference, isn't it?

As Rothman noted - and readers are encouraged to review his entire analysis of the 40 minute interview - Atwater was talking about how Reagan didn't need to use race to get elected in 1980.

"Reagan goes out and campaigns on economics and national defense. The whole campaign was devoid of any kind of racism. Any kind of reference," Atwater said.

Sadly, Bashir on Wednesday - in the middle of a totally nonsensical rant about "IRS" being a new racist dog whistle employed by Republicans to attack Obama because he's black! - opted to present a highly edited version of this section of a 32-year-old 40 minute interview.

Sadder still, selective editing has become commonplace at NBC and MSNBC.

And they wonder why their ratings continue to plummet.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/06/06/msnbcs-bashir-selectively-edits-1981-reagan-aide-interview-make-repub

[whork]

WTF

[drkaje]

Lol.   The IRS is a criminal organization that abused its power.   Has nothing to do w race other than the N's in the video learning line dancing on my dime.

How often do we see circumstances where people use language (contextually) specific to a certain group so they don't have to mention race?

I'm not asking you to break character and think. Simply arguing that it happens pretty damn often, LOL!

We all know damn well someone's talking about black people when they use certain terms.

[Soul Crusher]

How often do we see circumstances where people use language (contextually) specific to a certain group so they don't have to mention race?

I'm not asking you to break character and think. Simply arguing that it happens pretty damn often, LOL!

We all know damn well someone's talking about black people when they use certain terms.

What does race have to do w the IRS' criminality? 

[whork]

What does race have to do w the IRS' criminality? 

Black people is criminals and so is the IRS

[Soul Crusher]

Black people is criminals and so is the IRS

Now that I think about it that way . . . . . . 

[whork]

Now that I think about it that way . . . . . . 

Maybe not all black people but certainly all of the IRS

[Straw Man]

Lol.   The IRS is a criminal organization that abused its power.   Has nothing to do w race other than the N's in the video learning line dancing on my dime.

hey Mr. Lawyer - tell us what law(s) the IRS broke

[Soul Crusher]

hey Mr. Lawyer - tell us what law(s) the IRS broke

Selective enforcement of the law based upon political belief 

[drkaje]

Black people is criminals and so is the IRS

I say "People who annoy you" because all my friends watch South Park.

[drkaje]

Using "Obama" for the N-word isn't new either.

[Straw Man]

Selective enforcement of the law based upon political belief  

too bad they didn't selectively "enforce" anything nor deny any teabag group tax exempt status (which they were never required to even request in the first place)

you know if any laws were actually broken we'd know all about it (i.e. Issa would say exactly what law or laws were broken)

so once again, tell us exactly what law was broken

given that you're supposed to be a lawyer this should be pretty easy for you

[Dos Equis]

Laugh all you like.

On some level, he's actually correct.

I'd rather people used the N-word when they actually mean N-word and not play political games with semantics.

I don't think he's correct at all.  He used misleading quotes to try and make his point.  Also, this IRS scandal has zero to do with the president's race.  It's about incompetence and dishonesty.  I don't think there is any evidence that people are using the IRS scandal to try and call Obama the N word. 

[Straw Man]

I don't think he's correct at all.  He used misleading quotes to try and make his point.  Also, this IRS scandal has zero to do with the president's race.  It's about incompetence and dishonesty.  I don't think there is any evidence that people are using the IRS scandal to try and call Obama the N word. 

no proof yet of dishonestly and only marginal proof of incompetence (at a government agency....shocking)

these teabag groups applied for tax exempt status and since the law requires 501c4 to be operated exclusively to promote social welfare and are since the IRS has said that: 

"promotion of social welfare does not include direct or indirect participation or intervention in political campaigns on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office. However, a section 501(c)(4) social welfare organization may engage in some political activities, so long as that is not its primary activity"

it makes perfect sense for the IRS to scrutinize tea bag groups.   The scandal turn out to be lack of equal scrutiny of all of these groups and the fact that teabag groups got singled out for scrutiny will be  footnote.   

Ideally and investigation will determine that many of these groups (Dems, Repubs, Libertarians, etc..) have no right to this status and the scandal will the that the IRS granted this status to groups that don't meet the requirements

Even better, an investigation might reveal that many of these groups lied and broke the law by engaging solely in political activities

[drkaje]

I don't think he's correct at all.  He used misleading quotes to try and make his point.  Also, this IRS scandal has zero to do with the president's race.  It's about incompetence and dishonesty.  I don't think there is any evidence that people are using the IRS scandal to try and call Obama the N word. 

I didn't mean 33 was right, LOL!

Was writing about the use of semantics and context-specific words. "She has a nice personality" is generally referring to a fatty or busted chick.

[Dos Equis]

I didn't mean 33 was right, LOL!

Was writing about the use of semantics and context-specific words. "She has a nice personality" is generally referring to a fatty or busted chick.

Oh yeah.  I agree with that.  lol   

[Straw Man]

Selective enforcement of the law based upon political belief 

there was no selective "enforcement"
if anything there was selective scrutiny but then that's what the Determination Unit is tasked to do i.e. scrutinize applications for tax exempt status

maybe you think imaginary laws were broken based on political beliefs because nothing the IRS did broke any law

if you think some law was broken then tell us what law or laws were broken

you are a lawyer....right?

[tonymctones]

there was no selective "enforcement"
if anything there was selective scrutiny but then that's what the Determination Unit is tasked to do i.e. scrutinize applications for tax exempt status

maybe you think imaginary laws were broken based on political beliefs because nothing the IRS did broke any law

if you think some law was broken then tell us what law or laws were broken

you are a lawyer....right?

laws are meant to be enforced with an even hand, you are not supposed to determine what ppl deserve more scrutiny than others simply for a belief....

only a fucking moron would feel that the IRS selecting groups and ppl to scrutinize based on political ideology was OK...

[Straw Man]

laws are meant to be enforced with an even hand, you are not supposed to determine what ppl deserve more scrutiny than others simply for a belief....

only a fucking moron would feel that the IRS selecting groups and ppl to scrutinize based on political ideology was OK...

what law did the IRS break (hint they might have broken a law but it's not one the Repubs want you to know about)