Why would a guy ever get married?

[Shakespeare]

The curse of true love never did run smooth.

[#1 Klaus fan]

It was written by a woman named Suzanne McCarley.

Some women "get it".

Women only "get it" when it starts to affect them. Otherwise they don't give a fuck.

I have this friend at work who is 21 and just had a baby with some broad, same age. They're not married but plan to be.

I can't help but feel horribly for the dude. He's gotta settle (if he remains faithful) for sticking his dick into the same pussy for THE REST OF HIS LIFE. And if he lives a normal male life, that's roughly another 50-60 years. No matter how much a spouse is your "best friend", the lameness of having intercourse with the same woman tens of thousand of times is excruciating.

And the kid? That little bugger will rob him of sleep, rest, money, and time, to a tune unimaginable. The worry and strain will impact his happiness in a profound way.

In all likelihood he will become a slave to the whims of his wife.

There will be, essentially, no way out.

Poor fucker.

It's really sad. You are left with this feeling that the person has died almost, they are gone, finished. When the fellow marries and has kids with the first woman he's ever in a relationship it's like an addiction from a first heroin shot and after that, only pain is present.

[Childish///AMG]

Wow, never thought of "Marriage" that way. 

[RRKore]

To have kids

[RRKore]

If you're a young guy and you honestly question why a man would ever get married then you don't need an answer....the question is rhetorical.   

There's nothing wrong with being single with no kids, but remember that perspectives do change when the novelty of the bachelor lifestyle wears off.  At some point most guys' chiseled, good looks from their youth begins to fade and is replaced with receding hairlines, beer guts and love handles.  I'd rather become ugly with someone than just become ugly and be alone LOL.  And spare me the bravado of "I'll never change how I feel and I'll always be chiseled and handsome."  Things change, perspectives change, desires change.  Certainly some men are happy and content remaining single from their 20s to the grave, but most often things change because lives filled with superficiality and pretentious nonsense quickly becomes lackluster.  When you're married to your best friend you have something real and when you make a family with that person it makes it that much better.  Make no mistake, marriage is work and struggle at times, but it's also wonderful and empowering if you're with the right person for the right reasons.  In those instances the struggles often don't matter.

Waay too serious, brah.   Naw.  Good post.

[RRKore]

Did she wash her hands between steps two and three there, B? 

I posted this here before, but t sums it up for me:


http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/an-anonymous-letter/

A letter to a future daughter-in-law, possibly my own:

A few years from now you’re probably going to want to marry my son. Perhaps you already do; he’s kind of hot (if I’m allowed to notice) and his potential is quite obvious, if I do say so myself. He’s only twenty, handsome and well built, and when he lets is hair grow long it’s thick and wavy. He has his father’s beautiful eyes, and my dimples look much better on him than they ever looked on me. Also, he’s in the military; he has finished his deployment and doesn’t expect to go overseas again, so he’s now preparing to start earning college credits. I don’t hover so I’m not certain, but he’s probably going to major in engineering. Or possibly actuarial science. He surfs, rides a motorcycle and a mountain bike, and he maintains a classic car. He’s essentially a decent guy; pretty much everyone likes him or loves him, and respects him. Girls hit on him regularly.

I’ll be surprised if he ever marries though. You see, his plan is to wait until he’s at least thirty, and therefore he will spend the next decade meeting, dating, working with, and probably sleeping with, the product of sixty years of American feminism. I’m pretty sure he won’t find many women worth considering for marriage.

How about we look at it from his perspective, m’kay? Here’s what he sees:

Half of you have been raised without your fathers, yet only a few of your fathers deserved to be kicked out of your lives. You were raised by the women who kicked your fathers out, and perhaps by a string of step-dads and “uncles.” Those women, your mothers, taught you their values by example. Not an auspicious start. Most of the rest of you were raised by fathers who knew damn well that if they displeased your mothers, they too could be kicked out of your lives according to your mothers’ whims. They knew full well who had the real power in the family; they quietly accepted that “mother knows best.”

You were raised in a culture that permits, even encourages, women and girls to always push for more; not necessarily to do more or earn more, but to demand more and to expect more. You were punished far less severely for your transgressions than were your male peers. Indeed your female peers egged you on to be even naughtier, and to be defiant about it. It’s Grrrl Power, after all! The boys of your acquaintance were expected to give in to your shenanigans and your **** tests, and those who didn’t were labelled “problem children” and medicated. Usually, a boy’s best bet was to shut up and grovel, and maybe win your approval. They weren’t allowed to go around offending the Special Snowflakes, were they?

You were raised in a Disney Princess Culture, where every girl is entitled to her Prince Charming. And if she can’t find one, she has the Grrrl Power to kiss any old frog and transform him into a Prince. You were raised to be a slut, at least through your twenties. Go to college. Establish a career. Don’t get married until your late twenties or early thirties, but DO NOT under any circumstances, repress your sexuality. Your foremothers fought hard for your right to be promiscuous with no consequences; don’t you dare let their efforts go to waste.

And since you’re not looking for a husband, there’s no need to sleep with only “good” men, is there? Cuz badboyz r hawt! And nice guys are boring. And hell, you have plenty of time to ride the best cocks you can find – thanks to modern medicine, you can get pregnant after menopause if you want, so there’s no hurry. You are expected to waste your youth and your beauty on hot guys who treat you like ****, then give your leftovers to the guy you’ll promise to love, honor and cherish for the rest of your life. Wow! How lucky is he!

My son looks around and he sees bitchy, arrogant, malicious women. He sees spoiled greedy women. He sees financially irresponsible women. He sees lazy, undisciplined women. (Yes, even in the military; they had to lower the standards so more women could “serve.”) He sees overweight women wearing unflattering clothes that display muffin tops and rolls of fat, who drool over his biceps while telling him that “looks shouldn’t matter.”

He sees slutty women who dress to attract men, sleep with the hot ones, and denigrate the less attractive ones by calling them “creepy.” He sees “competitive” professional women whose primary tools for getting ahead are affirmative action and the unspoken threat of sexual harassment lawsuits. He sees demanding women who expect men to bow and scrape for the privilege of a smile. He sees utterly irrational women whose “self esteem” is obscenely disproportionate to their proven worth. He sees entitled women who expect romantic dates and expensive gifts, yet have absolutely nothing of value to contribute to a relationship. He sees women who flirt with their hopeful, geeky JustFriends, juuuust barely enough to keep them on a string while simultaneously panting after Alpha Hotteies, then run crying back to those JustFriends after being pumped and dumped by said Hotties. “Oh, why can’t more men be nice like you?” (Answer: if they were, no woman would **** them.)

Look around you, ladies. You see the very same women, don’t you? Many of you are these women. You think this is normal and acceptable because “everybody does it.” It’s not.

There’s something you should know about my son and his peers. They’re not gay, they’re not lazy, they’re not stupid, they’re not unambitious, and they’re not weak. They’ve merely figured you out. They know that you don’t give a rat’s ass about them, and that you see them as nothing but providers and fantasy sex objects. They are wise to the game and they’re done playing by your rules.

They have the same job titles as you and they take home the same pay, but they work longer hours and they do harder work; they know that their productivity is why employers can afford to hire you to sit a desk and shuffle papers. They know that if two drunk people have sex and both regret it the next morning, only one of them is a rapist. They know that “My Body/My Choice” actually means “My/Body/My Choice/Your Wallet.” They know that the minute they sign a marriage license, everything they own is your, but nothing you own is theirs (except your debts) and you can walk away with cash and prizes, at any time, for any reason. Or for no reason at all.

They’re calling Bull****.

A few years from now, you’ll begin asking yourself, “Where have all the good men gone?” You’ll look down your noses at all those guys playing video games and living like frat boys in cheap apartments, and you’ll just know that they could be “doing so much better for themselves,” if only they would Man Up. You’ll shake your heads in wonder at their “immaturity,” or their “wasted potential.” Here’s a little secret. (Yes, a few men are immature or weak; they’ve had the masculinity abused or medicated out of them, mostly by their single mothers and grandmothers.) But most of them?

They no longer give a rat’s ass about you.

That’s right. They don’t need to work hard and earn a good living. They have no intention of fathering and supporting any children, and no desire whatsoever to earn your approval. You go buy your own four-bedroom colonial in just the right subdivision. That’s what your Grrrl Power is for, isn’t it? So you don’t need a man? Many of these men will even go so far as to quit their jobs as soon as they begin to “earn a good living.” They don’t want to make enough money to pay taxes. They don’t want to pay the salaries of millions of useless (and mostly female) government employees, and they don’t want to finance the personal choices of Empowered Women.

Those Empowered Women can buy their own damn birth control. These men refuse to feed your Beast. And you, and your government, and your church, can’t cajole them or shame them into giving a ****. Men are dropping out, ladies. Chivalry has died of blunt force trauma, in a beatdown administered by Grrrl Power. Your mothers, your grandmothers, your schools, your family courts, your sociology professors, have spent the last two generations telling men that the are unnecessary and unwelcome. And now they’re leaving. (Although they’ll be glad to **** you while you’re young and hot, since you’re offering. Aaaaand then they’ll move on to younger and hotter sluts. Why the hell not? It’s free.)

This is the gift that feminism has given to you -Independence. Scary, lonely, bitter, potentially impoverished Independence. For yourselves and any children you may have. Most of you won’t blame feminism though; you’ll blame Male Privilege (which doesn’t exist.) You’ll blame The Patriarchy (which always gave women a better deal than it gave men.) You will stamp your feet, flip your hair, and blame anything except the single cultural force that has devoted itself to suppressing and controlling masculinity. And you’ll go home alone every night to your cats, your Facebook Friends, and your vibrators. I sure hope that’s what you want.

Sincerely,

A Mom.

Lot of valid points here that make me happy with my Thai wife.  (Not a ladyboy, ya fuckin' fucks.)

[RRKore]

People don't seem to understand this. At the time, everyone getting married could never imagine being divorced and having their life turned upside down.

They later find out the bitter truth, and feel like suicidal losers.


I think marriage and religion compliment each other. Traditionally, marriage was a commitment, to your spouse, and having/raising children.

It is a responsibility people assumed as gospel, and weren't willing to let their personal feelings or emotions get in the way resulting in breaking the family with a divorce.

Yes, many marriages may have been less than stellar, but in all reality, this lovy dovy bull is just hormones running rampant and mind fucking you into doing things you wouldn't in a rational state.

All relationships will turn dull, and routine after a while, no matter how much you try. What keeps them together is more responsibility brought on by kids etc...

Going to work, paying the mortgage, bills, and keeping up with your kids never ending demands and hissy fits will keep anyone busy for years to come.

I don't know where i'm going with this, but the solution for today's divorce rates, is basically having the proper understanding of WTF they're getting themselves into, and having realistic expectations about marriage life.

Given the systematic deconstruction of conservative Christian dominant values, and culture, is making people less adequate for such commitments. You see this more and more in Europe, but America hasn't caught on to fully realizing this yet.

Christian values?  Maybe.  Christian culture? Who needs it?   Agree totally with your 2nd to last paragraph.  Realistic expectations and making sure you and your partner have very similar values is most important.  It is necessary to have a strong commitment to your common values, but Christianity needn't be a part of it at all, imo.

[Croatch]

I have this friend at work who is 21 and just had a baby with some broad, same age. They're not married but plan to be.

I can't help but feel horribly for the dude. He's gotta settle (if he remains faithful) for sticking his dick into the same pussy for THE REST OF HIS LIFE. And if he lives a normal male life, that's roughly another 50-60 years. No matter how much a spouse is your "best friend", the lameness of having intercourse with the same woman tens of thousand of times is excruciating.

And the kid? That little bugger will rob him of sleep, rest, money, and time, to a tune unimaginable. The worry and strain will impact his happiness in a profound way.

In all likelihood he will become a slave to the whims of his wife.

There will be, essentially, no way out.

Poor fucker.

 

 

Looks like we're ending up on the same side of the coin lately...hahah

Most men get married because they are afraid their girl will leave if they don't.  The others bought the same bullshit they sold to women at 8yrs old.
Getting married to have kids makes sense, but only if you care what others think.  It's about conforming to what is "expected" in society.
The whole "when you find the right one", I may of bought this at 15, not now.  I want to be with my girl long term and I'm actually happy crushing that same thick ass all the time, actuall really love it...after 3 years too. 
Of course, she is brainwashed like every other yoyo female on getting married.
Naturally, I threw it out there to my getbig commarades for some epic monster advice...of peace. 

[Army of One]

Looks like we're ending up on the same side of the coin lately...hahah

Most men get married because they are afraid their girl will leave if they don't.  The others bought the same bullshit they sold to women at 8yrs old.
Getting married to have kids makes sense, but only if you care what others think.  It's about conforming to what is "expected" in society.
The whole "when you find the right one", I may of bought this at 15, not now.  I want to be with my girl long term and I'm actually happy crushing that same thick ass all the time, actuall really love it...after 3 years too. 
Of course, she is brainwashed like every other yoyo female on getting married.
Naturally, I threw it out there to my getbig commarades for some epic monster advice...of peace. 

Pics of thick ass?

[anabolichalo]

blacks have it figured out

they just do a tribal tradition marriage and pay her folks $500-$5000 depending on the greed of her parents and her level of education


if they ever "divorce" it's easy because they were not married in the official manner

[Henda]

I have no intention of ever getting married.
In all honesty if we didnt have kids together i would have left our lass years ago.

[Purge_WTF]

You know how many ignorant degenrates are jam-packed into the military?

Um, no, I don't know that.

[anabolichalo]

some fellas take pride in having a wife

but that is mostly in other cultures where women dont have much power


in the west i think it's just fellas being pressured into marriage often