Boston Loyd - Videos on his steroid and drug use

[Simple Simon]

i think the opposite is true


it's easier to say "oh well i just dont got the genetics"

than realizing

"oh well i just dont have the ballz to do pro blasts with legit dosed gear"




these tools always say "if it were that easy everyone would look like dorian"

but funny enough that what is supposed to be "easy" is just the thing nobody wants to do (take a massive amount of drugs)


yeah if it were that "easy" everyone would take the "easy" route

you can be a dumb fuck, people aren't scared of taking large amounts of steroids.
You can only inject so many mls of gear and you soon run out of places to pin, its not that people are afraid of the dosage it just gets to the point where they cant get any more in.

[DroppingPlates]

The guy couldn't be more right.
But kids don't want the real truth they want a dealer who tells them that buy me grams is the way to go.

Hearing that "you're just not good enough" can be hard to take. It's better: you look like shit but if you buy my drugs you will be pro.

This line, and Wes wrote it as well, is spot on: "there is a point of diminishing returns".
If you can't grow on a gram, whatever the compound, then there's something terribly wrong with your receptors.

[Simple Simon]

who on getbig is doing bostitch dosages

WHO?


10 names


10 NAMES!!!

NO ONE NEEDS TO, there are people here with better physiques taking a quarter of the amount he does, its not all gear you fuckwit

[DroppingPlates]

who on getbig is doing bostitch dosages

WHO?


10 names


10 NAMES!!!

Not a matter of guts, rather a matter of not worth the risk. Even BigRo prob uses less.

[Simple Simon]

bigro is a 3gram physique by his own word


are you telling me that the difference between the olympia stage


and bigro


is genetics?


just genetics?


  wake up

So if BIGRO upped the dose he would be Mr Olympia?

Wake up you daft twat.

Its how you respond to gear not how much.

[Simple Simon]

he could be much bigger is my point you daft shit head



but at the cost of perhaps blowing out an organ along the way

So you keep saying

Double your dose for 3 months and report back how much muscle you gain.

Pillock.

[DroppingPlates]

bigro is a 3gram physique by his own word

are you telling me that the difference between the olympia stage

and bigro

is genetics?

just genetics?

  wake up

Wake up? I, well we, try to wake you up with common sense.
It isn't just genetics, it isn't just drugs, it isn't just 'hard work'; it's the sum of the equation. Neglect one aspect and the results are less.

[Simple Simon]

look you fuck head

genetics may determine how soon you get diminishing returns


but no one is taking a sandow on 3grams


ask craig titus he spoke openly after he was sentenced

Way to just destroy your own argument.

Fuck off, you are simply not worth the effort.

[Simple Simon]

everyone at high level is maxing out his training and nutrition

genetics you are left with


all drugs in the end that wil determine your absolute size

Do you ever read what you write?
You are unravelling your own argument in a single post
"Its all drugs but its down to genetics"??

[Simple Simon]

see my above post

the case is closed

Great, maybe you can refrain from starting any threads about it in future, I will give you a week.

[DroppingPlates]

Great, maybe you can refrain from starting any threads about it in future, I will give you a week.

Don't expect rational arguments from A'halo, he's a big believer in intuition.

[galeniko]

I believe what u say

Also onetimehard is a repectful poster on here that did shed some light on pro/amatuer usage and its very believable

Sure some pros or amatuers use less than some of their competitors but compared to most gym rats it's still higher than your normal every day joe that isn't serious about bbing

As some have stated, it really comes down to tolerance and what their body can indure

Until Ronnie or any top pros actually revels their true cycles (never happening ) everything is just speculations

ofc gymrats hsould typicaly be 500mg maybe 1000 weekly at times and thats that.if we honest, from a gramm and above ,increasing dosage will not yield anywhere near enough gains as opposed to what naive ppl would expect.

been there, been around ppl who been there and know exactly what some competitors use.

just pointing out that 1-2gramms weekly of real gear can build monsterous physiques.

many who take 5gr would lok same at 2gramms, its just mental thing.

[galeniko]

everyone at high level is maxing out his training and nutrition

genetics you are left with


all drugs in the end that wil determine your absolute size

nah.
i seen shawn rhoden face to face.also next to a frend who a huge heavyweight competitor.he outsizes rhoden lean mass vs lean mass.

rhoden simple has better structure and insertions, and by that logic, hed be using less than theguy i know.who takes less than 2 gramms+gh.

see what i mean.

[galeniko]

Loyd's conditioning at the show was excellent, particularly for a 21 year-old w/ a relatively tall frame. If his nutrition was really shit, then it more or less is all drugs.

whats he saying was his precontest diet?

[Rascal full]

When people talk about genetics it is also work ethic that should be included in this. I know quite a few guys that are running multiple compounds at high doses. The interesting thing is they are all lazy bastards when it comes to working out.

They just rely on the drugs to do all the work for them hence their unimpressive results. I believe the true genetically gifted are also blessed with the ability to maximise and utilise all the drugs they are injecting. They will squeeze every last drop of use out of their stack before considering upping the dose.

[DroppingPlates]

When people talk about genetics it is also work ethic that should be included in this. I know quite a few guys that are running multiple compounds at high doses. The interesting thing is they are all lazy bastards when it comes to working out.

They just rely on the drugs to do all the work for them hence their unimpressive results. I believe the true genetically gifted are also blessed with the ability to maximise and utilise all the drugs they are injecting. They will squeeze every last drop of use out of their stack before considering upping the dose.

This is true, I observe the same phenomenon. Only a small part of them love the hard work and not just for a few months because the summer is over.

[njflex]

When people talk about genetics it is also work ethic that should be included in this. I know quite a few guys that are running multiple compounds at high doses. The interesting thing is they are all lazy bastards when it comes to working out.

They just rely on the drugs to do all the work for them hence their unimpressive results. I believe the true genetically gifted are also blessed with the ability to maximise and utilise all the drugs they are injecting. They will squeeze every last drop of use out of their stack before considering upping the dose.

that's when you see opposite ends spectrum from scrub local/bottom placer at national's/usa's to a good or great pro...all factors have to be there to be good pro 'drugs/genes/will power/playing to judges/getting noticed/work the industry..

[nasum]

It will be interesting to hear bostin's stance on all of this when he inevitably develops palumboism at age 30.

Steroid receptors can only take so much abuse.

[galeniko]

Good question. The only thing he says in the video is that he did not change his diet (or training) for the show, only his drug protocol.

well, so a precontest diet that made him shredded before made him shredded again.

itll be the typical high prtoein, carbs cycling low fat diet, he will have suffered hunger like everyone else.

all the drugs in the wordls dont make his metabolism unique or inhumane.

fatloss happens the same way in everyone.

drugs for size yes, dieting is dieting.

[Alucard]

I'm with anabolichalo on this one, that guy is a first class bullshitter... Why the need to make a video and ranting about how pros use not that much? They are abuser, some more some less, imo... He's a bb himself and friend with pros, another liar in the bunch... Of course some are "genetic freaks", structure, muscle bellies and drugs response, but Cutler for example? A midget fridge of an oilbag, yeah, such a freak, lol...

[Mawse]

Tiger Fitness aka Marc Goblin should STFU about other peoples doses since he is a prime example of bad genetics and massive tren abuse.

 Strong, lean but terrible muscle shape and selling magic Pixie dust supplements while lying about massive drug use

[Simple Simon]

the fact is tho that there is no way to be sure your acquintance is telling the truth

getbig rule is when someone says dosage double or tripple it to get true dosage

So if thats true you are taking 2.25 gms of test?

[galeniko]

the fact is tho that there is no way to be sure your acquintance is telling the truth

getbig rule is when someone says dosage double or tripple it to get true dosage

its called friendship.

look im not talking about frends dosages here only to hear"why you believe it"

heres an idea, take 2gramms, take 5 gramms weekly andsee how it goes.

[Simple Simon]

i dont have the ballz for that


that's for the crazy brave

According to your logic you are taking over 2 gms now.

[galeniko]

halo seems to be suffering from the following.

initialy he naively and fiercly believed it can all be done naturaly and stuck to it.

then he found out it something to do with steroids.

now he made a 180degree turn and says it all drugs.

the truth is somewhere in between.

or else everyone and their brother would be steping on the mr olympia stage.

genetics as in response to drugs and lifting,well,uhm, exist.