Ventura wins $1.8M from Chris Kyles estate

[The True Adonis]

Once the guy died - the right thing to do would be to drop the suit and walk away proving his point that he was going to court to clear his name but that he didn't want to bankrupt the widow to do so.

Jesse could have proven his point, saved face, been the bigger man and walked away head holding high.

Now he looks like utter dog shit to everyone.   SEAL's will never have a thing to do with him again, wont allow him at events, bars, etc in their prescence, 

He fucked himself with this

Bankrupt the widow?  They were directly making money off of Jesse Ventura via the phoney story.  Jesse had a very hard case to prove.  All legal experts say these type of cases are next to impossible to prove, yet Jesse was able to present more than enough evidence to win this case.  Kyle`s death didn`t change anything nor did it fix the problem at hand.  

[Soul Crusher]

Bankrupt the widow?  They were directly making money off of Jesse Ventura via the phoney story.  Jesse had a very hard case to prove.  All legal experts say these type of cases are next to impossible to prove, yet Jesse was able to present more than enough evidence to win this case.  Kyle`s death didn`t change anything nor did it fix the problem at hand.  

Again - in strict legal terms - fine.  But Jesse says the most important thing to him was his standing in the SEAL community - which is now dog shit. 

And he didn't prove shit - there was testimony on both sides and the jury believed his version.  By his own statements now - he cant ever be amongst SEAL's again - so what did he prove and gain really?  nothing .

[The True Adonis]

Again - in strict legal terms - fine.  But Jesse says the most important thing to him was his standing in the SEAL community - which is now dog shit. 

And he didn't prove shit - there was testimony on both sides and the jury believed his version.  By his own statements now - he cant ever be amongst SEAL's again - so what did he prove and gain really?  nothing .

The onus was on Jesse to prove that they were full of shit and making money off of him and he did.  All legal opinions on this case that I have read said that Jesse had a nearly impossible task set before him and that these cases are extremely hard to prove, a high bar set legally, yet Jesse was able to bring it and prove it.

Seems like one side was certainly full of shit and one was not.  If any SEAL hates Jesse for clearing his name, then they are morons.  I don`t see how this in any way makes Jesse care less about SEALS or the military.

[Shockwave]

Bankrupt the widow?  They were directly making money off of Jesse Ventura via the phoney story.  Jesse had a very hard case to prove.  All legal experts say these type of cases are next to impossible to prove, yet Jesse was able to present more than enough evidence to win this case.  Kyle`s death didn`t change anything nor did it fix the problem at hand.  

Well to be fair the judge kinda made it a bit easier when he directed the jury to only look at whether Ventura was hit financially because of what was said.

It turned out to not be the same case the legal experts were saying was so hard to prove guilt in....

[Soul Crusher]

The onus was on Jesse to prove that they were full of shit and making money off of him and he did.  All legal opinions on this case that I have read said that Jesse had a nearly impossible task set before him and that these cases are extremely hard to prove, a high bar set legally, yet Jesse was able to bring it and prove it.

Seems like one side was certainly full of shit and one was not.  If any SEAL hates Jesse for clearing his name, then they are morons.  I don`t see how this in any way makes Jesse care less about SEALS or the military.

Because he was seeking $ for damages from the estate - not just clear his name. 

[The True Adonis]

I think Jesse would have filed Assault charges if something like that would have ever happened.

[Dos Equis]

Has anyone actually read the book?  How much of it is devoted to Ventura?

[Soul Crusher]

Has anyone actually read the book?  How much of it is devoted to Ventura?

I read it - it was a paragraph at best.  He didn't mention Ventura by name either

[Dos Equis]

I read it - it was a paragraph at best.  He didn't mention Ventura by name either

Seriously?  What a friggin sissy. 

Put that together with the fact the book proceeds were donated to the families of service members who were KIA and we have a candidate for douchebag of the year.

[The True Adonis]

I read it - it was a paragraph at best.  He didn't mention Ventura by name either

What do you say to the fact that Ventura was able to obtain emails which showed the publisher was using "the fight" in order to sell the book.


One email read at the deposition said publishers were discussing an online marketing campaign that included "Jesse Ventura" as a keyword -- a plan Kyle said he wasn't told about.

In another email, an executive said a planned talk show rebuttal of Ventura's denial would be "a nice little bonus hit for us." A publicist said "the so-called 'incident' has helped the book go crazy," according to emails excerpts read in the deposition

[Soul Crusher]

What do you say to the fact that Ventura was able to obtain emails which showed the publisher was using "the fight" in order to sell the book.


One email read at the deposition said publishers were discussing an online marketing campaign that included "Jesse Ventura" as a keyword -- a plan Kyle said he wasn't told about.

In another email, an executive said a planned talk show rebuttal of Ventura's denial would be "a nice little bonus hit for us." A publicist said "the so-called 'incident' has helped the book go crazy," according to emails excerpts read in the deposition

and?  That was not what was in the book itself. 

All im saying is Ventura went about "clearing his name" in the worst possible fashion imaginable 

[The True Adonis]

and?  That was not what was in the book itself. 

All im saying is Ventura went about "clearing his name" in the worst possible fashion imaginable 

No he didn`t.

Besides, Harper Collins is footing the bill as they have an Insurance Policy for this sort of thing.

Quit acting like the widow is losing out here.

[Dos Equis]

and?  That was not what was in the book itself. 

All im saying is Ventura went about "clearing his name" in the worst possible fashion imaginable 

Completely agree.

[The True Adonis]

Completely agree.

And what would you have him do?  What is a better way to expose the lies of Chris Kyle`s "fight"?

[Dos Equis]

And what would you have him do?  What is a better way to expose the lies of Chris Kyle`s "fight"?

Issue a press release.  Hold a press conference.  Write an op ed.  Not dignify it with a response.  Take the high road.  Plenty of ways to address it other than pursuing a lawsuit against the widow. 

One friggin paragraph in a book.   

But he is a 911 Troofer, so we shouldn't expect much from him.

[The True Adonis]

Issue a press release.  Hold a press conference.  Write an op ed.  Not dignify it with a response.  Take the high road.  Plenty of ways to address it other than pursuing a lawsuit against the widow.  

One friggin paragraph in a book.  

But he is a 911 Troofer, so we shouldn't expect much from him.

Three pages.

[Dos Equis]

Three pages.

Soul Crusher said a paragraph.  But let's assume it is three pages.  He still acted like a little girl.

[Soul Crusher]

Three pages.

It was a tiny part from what I remember - didn't mention ventura by name etc. 

Not condoning if kyle lied about it - just saying the way venture went about it makes him look like garbage

[Shockwave]

Has anyone actually read the book?  How much of it is devoted to Ventura?

I did.

There was a paragraph about a bar fight (a couple AT MOST) and he wasnt even mentioned by name.... just that the man was speaking disgracefully of the dead and that he was a prominent figure.

I had no idea who he was talking about until the interview.

[Shockwave]

Three pages.

No way man.... a couple paragraphs at most detailing the circumstances and describing the man himself... there was several pages talking about the bar and the SEAL that died, but the anonymous figure himself and the fight was only a paragraph or two.

[Dos Equis]

I did.

There was a paragraph about a bar fight (a couple AT MOST) and he wasnt even mentioned by name.... just that the man was speaking disgracefully of the dead and that he was a prominent figure.

I had no idea who he was talking about until the interview.

Thanks. 

[The True Adonis]

Three pages is what they are removing from the book so far.

[Soul Crusher]

Three pages is what they are removing from the book so far.

Did you read it?  Shockwave and I did 

[Shockwave]

Three pages is what they are removing from the book so far.

Thats ludicrous... they must be removing anything to do with that bar or the SEAL that died.

Ridiculous.

[RRKore]

I read it - it was a paragraph at best.  He didn't mention Ventura by name either

But Kyles did mention Ventura by name while promoting the book, didn't he? 

I pretty sure I read that he talked about Ventura on a couple of radio shows. 

Opie and Anthony was one of the shows and I forget the name of the other one.