Arnold Schwarzenegger`s Diet Recomendations- 100 grams of Protein

[MCWAY]

I have that book. Vince had many different diets. His definition diets varied  anywhere from 1/2 to 1 pound of beef per day and 6 to 12 whole eggs per day. He had a few different bulking type diets they relied a lot on eggs up to three dozen per day plus heavy cream, hardly low protein.

12 eggs.....that's at least 72 grams of protein (96 grams, if you use jumbo eggs).

A pound of cooked beef is about 100 grams of protein.

So, if you go conservative with that (half-pound of beef and six medium eggs and a quart of milk/cream/half-n-half), that's 130 grams of protein, AT LEAST.....but that's not all you're supposed to eat.

And, don't forget the liver tablets, which I used (on and off) even to this day.  

[Slik]

Sometimes I wonder what my arteries r like. I subscribed to girondas advice as a teen. Put on a shitload of size but was religiously drinking 12 eggs a day w heavy cream on top of all else.

[dj181]

Sometimes I wonder what my arteries r like. I subscribed to girondas advice as a teen. Put on a shitload of size but was religiously drinking 12 eggs a day w heavy cream on top of all else.

well if you got good health genetics then they are probably doing fine

[Big Chiro Flex]

protein  = 85 g
carbs =80g
low fat

I would fucking disappear .

THIS!

Is this diet a joke or something?

[Ronnie Rep]

They are bigger. It's an illusion. Arnold had small joints making him appear huge. 220 lbs is not huge. Neither is 235 lbs (at his peak, cut).

This! And so are their guts!

[MCWAY]

the part about weekend cheating is interesting in FirstBlood post, maybe they gorged saturday and/or sunday, thus making large feedings during the week uneeded (almost like the galeniko feed then fast plan...)

some good info here as well, he mentions binging on essentially junkfood on sundays, but the strict diet got you back on pace within a day or two

Why is he saying that there are no more all-you-can-eat places? There are plenty of them, from what I've seen.

Golden Corall is all-you-can-eat. Certain KFCs have buffets. Then, there are the Mongolian Barbecue places. Every single one of those, to which I've gone, were buffets. Then, there are the all-you-eat-sushi-bars.

Even in places like Sweet Tomatoes in places like California, you can load up. Yes, it's a salad bar. But, with plenty of chicken, ham (for those who dig swine), eggs, soybeans, cream cheese, and nuts to add as fixings to your salad, you can EASILY get your protein fix from a place like that.

[Borracho]

Yes, life is overrated.

[The True Adonis]

Why is he saying that there are no more all-you-can-eat places? There are plenty of them, from what I've seen.

Golden Corall is all-you-can-eat. Certain KFCs have buffets. Then, there are the Mongolian Barbecue places. Every single one of those, to which I've gone, were buffets. Then, there are the all-you-eat-sushi-bars.

Even in places like Sweet Tomatoes in places like California, you can load up. Yes, it's a salad bar. But, with plenty of chicken, ham (for those who dig swine), eggs, soybeans, and nuts to add as fixings to your salad, you can EASILY get your protein fix from a place like that.

Does he not realize you can eat all you want at home? 

[MCWAY]

Does he not realize you can eat all you want at home? 

Maybe, he (and/or his wife) can't cook!

 

[andreisdaman]

I love the part in the article where Arnold says ""in the research I've done..."..LOL at Arnold ACTUALLY doing RESEARCH

[MCWAY]

I love the part in the article where Arnold says ""in the research I've done..."..LOL at Arnold ACTUALLY doing RESEARCH

He probably did. It's called trial-and-error. It's called learning from others: Vince Gironda, Reg Park (his boyhood idol), Frank Zane, just to name a few.

You don't need a lab coat or a government grant to do research, especially given the fact that much of what "mainstream science" touts as being breakthrough (when it comes to training and nutrition) is DECADES behind what old-school  bodybuilders know.

"Millions of people are involved in exercise programs that involve strength training and aerobic exercise. High-protein diets are the craze. Arnold (Schwarzenegger) was doing that back in the '70s, in the 60s." - Bill Phillips, "Iron and Beyond", from the Pumping Iron: 25th Anniversary Edition DVD.

[Thespritz0]

He probably did. It's called trial-and-error. It's called learning from others: Vince Gironda, Reg Park (his boyhood idol), Frank Zane, just to name a few.

You don't need a lab coat or a government grant to do research, especially given the fact that much of what "mainstream science" touts as being breakthrough (when it comes to training and nutrition) is DECADES behind what old-school  bodybuilders know.

"Millions of people are involved in exercise programs that involve strength training and aerobic exercise. High-protein diets are the craze. Arnold (Schwarzenegger) was doing that back in the '70s, in the 60s." - Bill Phillips, "Iron and Beyond", from the Pumping Iron: 25th Anniversary Edition DVD.

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SO what he's saying is BRO SCIENCE was alive and doing well in the '60's-80's??

[MCWAY]

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SO what he's saying is BRO SCIENCE was alive and doing well in the '60's-80's??

Is "BRO SCIENCE" some derogatory term for old-school trial and error? It sounds quite dismissive.

It's real-world experience. As of late, people who claim to be into bodybuilding would rather take advice from "mainstream" scientists who aren't bodybuilders and don't have muscles and ignore real-world advice from those who ARE bodybuilders and DO have the muscles to show for it?

Or, I'll put it another way. The old-timers knew THAT certain things work, even if they didn't necessarily know at the time exactly WHY they worked.

Some people want to get too far into the weeds with this stuff. I believe CT Fletcher likes to refer to them as "egg-head motherf------s".

So you can't get big and strong, unless Dr. Quackenschmidt, PhD., ABC, OPP from ACME University says you can? PLEASE!!!

[Thespritz0]

Is "BRO SCIENCE" some derogatory term for old-school trial and error? It sounds quite dismissive.

It's real-world experience. As of late, people who claim to be into bodybuilding would rather take advice from "mainstream" scientists who aren't bodybuilders and don't have muscles and ignore real-world advice from those who ARE bodybuilders and DO have the muscles to show for it?

Or, I'll put it another way. The old-timers knew THAT certain things work, even if they didn't necessarily know at the time exactly WHY they worked.

Some people want to get too far into the weeds with this stuff. I believe CT Fletcher likes to refer to them as "egg-head motherf------s".

So you can't get big and strong, unless Dr. Quackenschmidt, PhD., ABC, OPP from ACME University says you can? PLEASE!!!

^^
Quite the opposite for me, I've always been more into Bro-Science (learning from other's results) than what is in a scientific journal... we'll leave that for the Muscletech athletes!!

[MCWAY]

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Quite the opposite for me, I've always been more into Bro-Science (learning from other's results) than what is in a scientific journal... we'll leave that for the Muscletech athletes!!

Muscletech's science couldn't get Orange CELL-TECH, Gakic, or Anator-P70 not to taste like utter swill.

[Thespritz0]

Maybe, he (and/or his wife) can't cook!

 

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That's WHY he had the MEXICAN take-out...

[no one]

Another from Franco Columbu:

DEFINITON DIET FOR COMPETITVE BODYBUILDERS

Breakfast: 4 eggs
                  1 slice Fresh Pineapple
                 1 Cup Coffee
                 1 cup Water

Lunch:     6 oz of fish
                1 baked potato
                1 cup of water

Snack:       20 grams of water packed Tuna

Dinner:     Fish 4-6 Oz.
                Vegetables
                 Salad
                1 Cup Water

how many caloires in this diet?

how come he isnt dieting on 2000cal? or recommend it?

should tell you something.

[The True Adonis]

how many caloires in this diet?

how come he isnt dieting on 2000cal? or recommend it?

should tell you something.

Doesn`t really.

I have dieted on low calories 1300-1800 and it was the worst ever.    I also did five days of cardio during that time and never deviated once.  This was in 2004.  Protein was 2 grams per lb of bodyweight carbs were low.  I logged it all on Muscle Mayhem.  I got to low body fat, single digits, but I was so weak, it was laughable.  HUNDREDS of pounds lost on lifts.

I can definitively say that these approaches DO NOT WORK FOR ME.

[Big Chiro Flex]

Doesn`t really.

I have dieted on low calories 1300-1800 and it was the worst ever.    I also did five days of cardio during that time and never deviated once.  This was in 2004.  Protein was 2 grams per lb of bodyweight carbs were low.  I logged it all on Muscle Mayhem.  I got to low body fat, single digits, but I was so weak, it was laughable.  HUNDREDS of pounds lost on lifts.

I can definitively say that these approaches DO NOT WORK FOR ME.

Why take your carbs so low  Totally unnecessary. We prob have similar metabolism and I can get to 5% off 200g a day carbs. And an hour of cardio a day.  No wonder your strength suffered.

[no one]

Doesn`t really.

I have dieted on low calories 1300-1800 and it was the worst ever.    I also did five days of cardio during that time and never deviated once.  This was in 2004.  Protein was 2 grams per lb of bodyweight carbs were low.  I logged it all on Muscle Mayhem.  I got to low body fat, single digits, but I was so weak, it was laughable.  HUNDREDS of pounds lost on lifts.

I can definitively say that these approaches DO NOT WORK FOR ME.

lol what did you think would happen?

your a smart guy- instead of chalking it up to a failing as a whole of your enterprise there was a variable that was causing your enterprise to fail.

there is nothing wrong with low cals nothing at all if you do it right. you didnt do it right. its that simple.

[no one]

i'll tell you a story that will help you relate bro. i've been there and i know what your talking about. actually any time you see me give advise its cause i have been there.

i was getting ready for a show. i think it was my second show. i dieted on ultra high protein high veg low carb low fat. 3 weeks out i looked the best i think i have ever looked. i was dense and leaner than i had ever been. like that grainy type lean and hardness. i actually cant believe that was me, you know? i was o happy i did this myself.

then as all guys do i got nervous about the last two weeks instead of just trusting in myself and what i know. so i hired this internet training guru for my last two weeks- the fuck was his name- big blond guy true protein guy posted on mayhem was supposed to be the next big thing? anyway i sent him my pics. hes like you look terrific but i want you to up your cardio to AN HOUR AND A HALF of cardio a day. im like wtf? this sint my first bbq, and i know im maaaaybe 1-2% from stage ready but im not going to argue this guy. hes the 'pro' right? so i start doing the cardio.

i remember my blood sugar plummenting so hard i could barely walk at times. i got dizzy, just the very act of walking felt like i was moving thru water.

what do you think happened? dude i looked like i lost 10 pounds of muscle. in 2 weeks. im not bullshitting you bro. i was fucking shattered. i had dieted my ass off doing it myself for x amount of time and this just fucked up all that hard work.

now, was my approach wrong? did the diet fail me? no- it was a variable inside the diet that caused the failure. not the system as a whole. cheers.

[andreisdaman]

Muscletech's science couldn't get Orange CELL-TECH, Gakic, or Anator-P70 not to taste like utter swill.

Muscle Tech Orange was your favorite

[The True Adonis]

Why take your carbs so low  Totally unnecessary. We prob have similar metabolism and I can get to 5% off 200g a day carbs. And an hour of cardio a day.  No wonder your strength suffered.

Cardio was only 30 minutes a day High Intensity style.  I did that in 2004.  Ended up the weakest I had ever been ever.

[andreisdaman]

Cardio was only 30 minutes a day High Intensity style.  I did that in 2004.  Ended up the weakest I had ever been ever.

whats high intensity style?

[no one]

Cardio was only 30 minutes a day High Intensity style.  I did that in 2004.  Ended up the weakest I had ever been ever.

I don't normally train for strength so I stay away from heavy weight. but yesterday as in every day actually I felt fantastic. I did flat bench. I'm 2 reps off my total for that weight weighing 15 pounds lighter and on literally a fraction of the supplements it took me to get there. this leads me to believe I am not only not losing lean tissue but actually am as strong if not stronger pfp on this system Galeniko and i created as I was when I wasn't using it.