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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #125 on: June 28, 2013, 11:26:52 AM »
so snowdens dad says hes ready to come back to usa under some provisions.

see this is the problem, they will go after your family

Using family as a tool for blackmailing is not nice, morally sustainable or democratic but it damn sure is one of the most efficient ways to give someone second thoughts.

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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #126 on: June 29, 2013, 12:50:14 AM »

Kid is gaining support among Russians.



Supporters outside the Sheremetyevo.
Text says: "Edward, Russia is your second motherland". Nice from their part  :)         


http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2013/0628/Russia-debates-letting-Snowden-in-from-the-cold-video

"[Julian] Assange, [Bradley] Manning and Snowden are not spies who sold classified information for money. They acted on their beliefs. They are new dissidents, fighters against the system," the head of the State Duma's international affairs committee, Alexei Pushkov, tweeted Wednesday."

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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #127 on: June 30, 2013, 02:40:40 AM »
HOLY SHIt:

Attacks from America: NSA Spied on European Union Offices


http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/nsa-spied-on-european-union-offices-a-908590.html



To prevent EU committing terrorist acts on them  ???




AND this sorry shit called EU is doing nothing  ::)


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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #128 on: June 30, 2013, 04:01:31 AM »
HOLY SHIt:

Attacks from America: NSA Spied on European Union Offices


http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/nsa-spied-on-european-union-offices-a-908590.html



To prevent EU committing terrorist acts on them  ???




AND this sorry shit called EU is doing nothing  ::)



The Netherlands should get out of the EU, but that won't happen because this nation is pussyfied and full of brainwashed sheep.

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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #129 on: June 30, 2013, 04:42:25 AM »
The Netherlands should get out of the EU, but that won't happen because this nation is pussyfied and full of brainwashed sheep.

Same with Finland.


Now it's on news, "Germany is demanding answers from USA". Oh brother.
HAHAHA "demanding answers".....  I bet yankee is shaking in fear  ::)

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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #130 on: June 30, 2013, 02:40:23 PM »

 Next to China, Germany is the US's biggest competitor for global dominance for the rest of the century.

 The engineering and manufacturing powerhouse, Germany, is currently financing large parts of Europe.

 They've made great strides in alternative energy, and they sit near Russia's vast supplies of fossil fuels.

 Russia has 2/3 of Earth's natural resources.... correct me if I'm wrong.

 EU can close all US military bases in Europe.
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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #131 on: June 30, 2013, 07:27:47 PM »
Looks like the US is backing him in a corner through diplomacy (threats).
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324436104578577541805987304.html?mod=WSJ_hps_LEFTTopStories

By TE-PING CHEN and KEN BROWN CONNECT
As Edward Snowden entered his second week of limbo in Moscow's airport on Sunday, his decision to go to Russia is looking riskier than it first appeared, and may have left him in a worse situation than if he had stayed in Hong Kong.

Even with his next move uncertain, the former National Security Agency contractor caused fresh uproar over the weekend. On Sunday, German weekly Der Spiegel, citing information from Mr. Snowden, reported that the U.S. had placed listening devices in a European Union office in Washington, infiltrated its computers and carried out cyberattacks against EU bodies. The report prompted strong criticism from several European governments.

Mr. Snowden had hoped for asylum in Ecuador, but that seems less likely now. President Rafael Correa on Sunday retreated further from his country's early support of Mr. Snowden, telling the Associated Press it was up to Russian authorities to decide whether Mr. Snowden could travel to the Ecuadorean embassy in Moscow to seek asylum.

Mr. Snowden's limbo is the product of a series of rapid decisions made during his final 24 hours in Hong Kong, when he was struggling over whether to remain there or seek asylum elsewhere.

According to people familiar with his case, Mr. Snowden at first wanted to stay in Hong Kong, and sought to build public support there by giving a local newspaper information about U.S. hacking activities in the city. His Hong Kong legal team, which included local opposition legislator Albert Ho, was preparing for a long fight.

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At least part of his legal team believed Hong Kong represented the best option to protect their client's safety and interests, one of the people familiar with his case said. Mr. Snowden, though, was getting a different message from WikiLeaks. On June 12, Mr. Snowden through an intermediary asked the antisecrecy organization to help him seek asylum in Iceland, WikiLeaks said on June 19. In the days after his approach, WikiLeaks asked other governments about asylum possibilities on Mr. Snowden's behalf.

"He obviously chose to go to Moscow, though I don't know why. I wouldn't have," said Patricia Ho of Hong Kong law firm Daly & Associates, who isn't involved in the case. She said Mr. Snowden had had a range of options still open to him before he left Hong Kong, including filing for asylum or contesting the U.S.'s request in the city's robust judicial system.

But Mr. Snowden's escape plan stalled when he got stuck in the transit area of the Moscow airport.

He touched down in Moscow a week ago on his way to Ecuador "via Russia and other states," according to WikiLeaks. Some two days later, Russian President Vladimir Putin denied a U.S. request to expel Mr. Snowden and urged the fugitive to get on his way. He has since been stuck in Sheremetyevo Airport's transit zone without a valid U.S. passport or a Russian visa, facing an increasingly uncertain path.

The Obama administration sought to systematically cut off Mr. Snowden's asylum options once he left Hong Kong, said senior U.S. officials working on the strategy.

One focus, these officials said, has been to repeatedly stress to Moscow that hopes for better cooperation on issues ranging from counterterrorism to Syria could be jeopardized without cooperation on Mr. Snowden.

On Ecuador, senior U.S. officials, including Vice President Joe Biden, have pressed to Quito that its economic engagement with the U.S. could diminish if Mr. Snowden is granted asylum. The Latin American country has a dollar-based economy and is reliant on the U.S. for 40% of its exports. Oil accounts for about 80% of Ecuador's exports to the U.S., but the country also exports significant amounts of fish and seafood, bananas and flowers.

The Obama administration has used the outrage in Congress over Mr. Snowden to pressure Mr. Correa, said U.S. officials.

White House officials declined to discuss in detail Mr. Biden's phone conversation with Mr. Correa. But U.S. officials said this threat of congressional action against Quito continues to be used by the administration to try to gain Mr. Correa's cooperation. They said they still believed the Ecuadorean leader was worried about the economic costs to his country.

The U.S. point man on dealing with Russia on Mr. Snowden has been the State Department's No. 2 diplomat, Undersecretary William Burns, said senior U.S. officials. Mr. Burns is a former American ambassador to Moscow who has regularly worked with Russia on issues from Middle East peace initiatives to Islamic militancy in the Caucasus. Mr. Burns also coordinated extensively with Russia when he served as the U.S. point man on Iran's nuclear program.

Mr. Burns and Secretary of State John Kerry have coordinated a message to Moscow that Russia can't expect the same level of support on counterterrorism and law-enforcement issues without cooperation on Mr. Snowden, U.S. officials said. Mr. Kerry particularly noted in talks with Russian officials, including Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, that over the past two years, the U.S. has extradited seven people who were wanted for crimes to Moscow.

One factor driving Mr. Snowden from Hong Kong, according to the people familiar with his case, was the likelihood that he would be held in jail while his extradition case was fought. In jail, he would have lost his Internet access. "I don't think he'd mind being in prison, so long as he could have the Internet," one of the people said.

It isn't known whether Mr. Snowden has Internet access at the Moscow airport, but others in the transit zone have access to the Web and other communications.

Mr. Snowden's chances of avoiding surrender to the U.S. by Hong Kong authorities were slim, some lawyers in Hong Kong said. "If he'd stayed in Hong Kong, authorities would only have been able to stall for so long, and then they would've had to comply under their obligations," said Kevin Egan, a Hong Kong lawyer who has handled surrender cases but who wasn't involved in the Snowden case. Since 1998, the city has handed back people to the U.S. in 65 cases under its surrender agreement. In at least one other case—involving someone charged by the U.S. with smuggling—Hong Kong didn't send the person back.

Other Hong Kong lawyers said one of Mr. Snowden's best options, and one that remains open to him if he returned to Hong Kong, is to file an asylum claim either with the Hong Kong government or the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, something he could have done while in Hong Kong. Another avenue for Mr. Snowden would have been for China to block the surrender by exercising its right to intervene in issues involving national security and foreign relations, though it is believed that Beijing signed off on his departure, according to diplomats and Hong Kong legislators.

China's Foreign Ministry didn't respond to questions last week about what role Beijing had played in negotiations over Mr. Snowden. "The central government obviously respects the Hong Kong SAR (Special Administrative Region) government's handling of affairs in accordance with law," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said at a regular news briefing.

Mr. Snowden could return to Hong Kong, Ms. Ho of Daly & Associates said, attempting to apply for asylum after he arrived from the Hong Kong government or the UNHCR. The Hong Kong government has asked airlines to bar him from flying there, but he could get around that restriction because Russia would be "returning" him to Hong Kong, which would be different than "allowing" him to fly to Hong Kong like a normal passenger, she said.

Mr. Snowden's time in Hong Kong was cloaked in secrecy, beginning with his initial approach to his lawyers. On June 10, the day after he exposed his identity in the Guardian newspaper, a Hong Kong-based intermediary called a local lawyer known for his work on human-rights issues to seek assistance, according to a person familiar with the case. The lawyer, who didn't know the caller, was told to meet him on a street in Hong Kong and they would ride together in a taxi to meet Mr. Snowden, the person said.

Soon after, reporters found Mr. Snowden in the Mira Hong Kong Hotel in the densely packed Tsim Sha Tsui neighborhood and he fled from there with the lawyer, the person said. Mr. Snowden moved locations only under cover of darkness and wore a cap and sunglasses on the rare occasions he went out, the people familiar with his case said.

In the days before Mr. Snowden's exit from Hong Kong, Mr. Ho, the opposition legislator, unsuccessfully sought clarification from the city's government on Mr. Snowden's case, the people familiar with the case said. He was growing increasingly worried that stepped-up pressure by the U.S. would push Hong Kong's government to detain him, these people said.

Around June 21, the same time the U.S. unsealed charges against him, according to one of the people familiar with his case, Mr. Snowden received an encrypted message that claimed to represent a government authority who urged him to leave Hong Kong, and assured him he would be able to clear immigration if he tried to do so. Mr. Ho tried to contact Hong Kong's government to determine whether the message's assurances were genuine, but didn't receive an immediate reply.

Mr. Snowden woke on Saturday, June 22, to news that the U.S. had unsealed the charges accusing him of crimes under the U.S. Espionage Act and theft of government property. He began looking for flights out of Hong Kong, a person familiar with his case said.

Moscow wasn't his only pick, this person said: His goal was to get somewhere he believed would protect him from the U.S. government's reach. He knew he needed to avoid U.S. airlines but didn't have a final destination in mind, people familiar with his case said. Throughout the day, he vacillated between staying and going, and about where he would go if he left, the person said.

Around midnight on Saturday, Mr. Snowden told his legal team that he wanted to leave town, the person said, and he was urged to get a good night's sleep and to think about it some more.

The next day, June 23, Mr. Snowden made up his mind and headed for the airport in a private car, the person said. In part because they weren't using mobile phones to communicate, one of his lawyers had gone ahead to the airport not knowing if Mr. Snowden would appear. At the airport, the lawyer bought a plane ticket to Shanghai—the cheapest one he could find—to ensure that he could accompany Mr. Snowden past immigration checks. He arrived at the airport just in time to make his Aeroflot flight to Moscow. He had no luggage to check. He cleared immigration and security and quietly boarded the flight.

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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #132 on: June 30, 2013, 08:05:25 PM »
so snowdens dad says hes ready to come back to usa under some provisions.

see this is the problem, they will go after your family

It's not a problem as much as it is our reality...Snowden wants people to believe we all have a choice...In fact, I wouldn't doubt that its all a hoax to help drive people out of the woodwork to talk in favor of Snowden so that the Hierarchy can put some sort of controls on said people...

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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #133 on: June 30, 2013, 08:28:23 PM »
Next to China, Germany is the US's biggest competitor for global dominance for the rest of the century.

 The engineering and manufacturing powerhouse, Germany, is currently financing large parts of Europe.

 They've made great strides in alternative energy, and they sit near Russia's vast supplies of fossil fuels.

 Russia has 2/3 of Earth's natural resources.... correct me if I'm wrong.

 EU can close all US military bases in Europe.
I believe that you are severely wrong on this. there is this continent called Africa, which is very, very rich in natural resources, diamonds, oil, gold, salt, and many other minerals. ... And then North America has shale deposits, and there are Central and South American countries that are rich in gold.

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« Reply #134 on: June 30, 2013, 09:58:37 PM »
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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #135 on: July 01, 2013, 07:48:22 AM »
Looks like the US is backing him in a corner through diplomacy (threats).
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324436104578577541805987304.html?mod=WSJ_hps_LEFTTopStories



They might be able to blackmail Ecuador and likes but USA has virtually no hold on Russia.

Thanks to farsighted policies of Putin's government, Russia barely has any trade with USA so traditional American approach to blackmail with that ain't working.
And Europe is not going to follow orders from behind the Athlantic during these economic times; they secure every deal they can.
Even countries under heavy US pressure are open to Russia as was seen in recent arms and oil deals with Irak. And a bit surprisingly, it looks like USA can't prevent these deals.


So if no one takes Snowden, he can stay in Russia as long as he likes sitting at airport (Note: we're far from sure he is at airport - he has not been seen since he landed at Sheremetyevo).
Unless Americans propose an exchange. But we are far from that point now.

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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #136 on: July 02, 2013, 10:26:51 AM »
I believe that you are severely wrong on this. there is this continent called Africa, which is very, very rich in natural resources, diamonds, oil, gold, salt, and many other minerals. ... And then North America has shale deposits, and there are Central and South American countries that are rich in gold.

 Russia is the world's largest mineral and energy supply and is known as an "energy superpower", containing 22% of the world's oil, 16% of the world's coal, and 40% of the world's natural gas. Very well known for its tree's, Russia has 1/5 of the world's timber and wood, no surprise. iron ore, nickel, coal, gold, diamonds, furs, petroleum, zinc, aluminum, tin, lead, platinum, titanium, copper, tungsten phosphates, and mercury are the most popular natural resources that Russia provides. Russia has many advantages, and a few disadvantages, for its very hard to mine up north rather then down south. Below are some short notes about the large amounts of natural resources in Russia:

    Has the worlds largest oil reserves
    Second largest coal reserves
    1/5 largest lead reserves
    Largest reserves of water in lakes
    Largest diamond deposits
    Second largest potassium reserves
    Enormous fish reserves
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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #137 on: July 03, 2013, 02:57:05 PM »
I believe that you are severely wrong on this. there is this continent called Africa, which is very, very rich in natural resources, diamonds, oil, gold, salt, and many other minerals. ... And then North America has shale deposits, and there are Central and South American countries that are rich in gold.

My friend, Banana Republics time is long gone,Africa is dominated by British,French,German & Italian businesses, Chinaman is pushing himself in very sneakily.US is far far behind Europeans, black US president don't impress real blacks too much.
Central/South America is not run by United fruit company any more, gold (decorative mineral ?) it is not uranium or iron ore.

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Nicaragua, Venezuela and Bolivia Offer Asylum to Snowden
« Reply #138 on: July 07, 2013, 02:20:56 AM »
Enjoy Venezuela Mr Snowden.



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Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro offered asylum to former U.S. intelligence contractor Edward Snowden in defiance of Washington, which is demanding his arrest for divulging details of secret U.S. spy programs.
Snowden, 30, is believed to be holed up in the transit area of Moscow's Sheremetyevo international airport and has been trying to find a country that would take him since he landed from Hong Kong on June 23.

"In the name of America's dignity ... I have decided to offer humanitarian asylum to Edward Snowden," Maduro told a military parade marking Venezuela's independence day.

"He is a young man who has told the truth, in the spirit of rebellion, about the United States spying on the whole world."

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Russia has kept the former National Security Agency contractor at arm's length, saying the transit area where passengers stay between flights is neutral territory and he will be on Russian soil only if he goes through passport control.

It was not immediately clear how Snowden would react to Maduro's offer, nor reach Venezuela if he accepted.

There are no direct commercial flights between Moscow and Caracas, and the usual route involves changing planes in Havana. It is not clear if the Cuban authorities would let him transit, however, and there was no sign of Snowden aboard the flight to Havana on Saturday.

Given the dramatic grounding in Vienna of the Bolivian president's plane this week over suspicions that Snowden was onboard, using European airspace could prove problematic.

Russia has shown signs of growing impatience over Snowden's stay in Moscow. Its deputy foreign minister said on Thursday that Snowden had not sought asylum in that country and needed to choose a place to go.

Moscow has made clear that the longer he stays, the greater the risk of the diplomatic standoff over his fate causing lasting damage to relations with Washington.

Both Russia's foreign ministry and President Vladimir Putin's spokesman declined to comment on Venezuela's offer.

"This is not our affair," Dmitry Peskov told Reuters.

But senior pro-Kremlin lawmaker Alexei Pushkov, head of the international affairs committee of Russia's lower house of parliament, said asylum in Venezuela would be Snowden's best option.

The White House declined to comment.

Raising the possibility of at least one other option, Nicaragua said it had received an asylum request from Snowden and could agree to it "if circumstances permit".

WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization, said on Friday that Snowden had asked six more nations for asylum, bringing to about 20 the number of countries he has appealed to for protection from U.S. espionage charges.

WikiLeaks said on Twitter it would not reveal which six new countries Snowden had applied to for asylum, due to "attempted U.S. interference".

Maduro said Venezuela was ready to offer him sanctuary, and that the details Snowden had revealed of U.S. spy programs had exposed the nefarious schemes of the U.S. "empire."

"Who is the guilty one? A young man ... who denounces war plans, or the U.S. government which launches bombs and arms the terrorist Syrian opposition against the people and legitimate President Bashar al-Assad?" he asked, to applause and cheers from ranks of military officers at the parade.

"Who is the terrorist? Who is the global delinquent?"

'COLONIES OF THE UNITED STATES'

Since narrowly winning a presidential election in April that followed the death of his mentor, Hugo Chavez, from cancer, Maduro has often lambasted the United States - even accusing the Pentagon and former U.S. officials of plotting to kill him.

But the former bus driver and union leader has at times also struck a much more conciliatory note, saying he is ready for better relations with Washington, based on mutual respect.

Already one of Snowden's most vocal supporters on the world stage, Maduro has sharpened his rhetoric in recent days.

It peaked after Bolivia said France, Portugal, Italy and Spain banned a plane carrying its president, Evo Morales, from using their airspace because of suspicions Snowden was aboard.

Latin America's most vocal leftist leaders denounced that as a disgrace and a serious breach of protocol, and Maduro said the CIA, the U.S. spy agency, was behind it all.

Snowden had revealed that the United States was spying on its European allies, Maduro said on Friday, and yet European leaders still caved under U.S. pressure to ground Morales' jet.

"The European people have seen the cowardice and the weakness of their governments, which now look like colonies of the United States," the Venezuelan president said.

Venezuela's opposition leader, Henrique Capriles, accused Maduro of making a fuss about Snowden to distract voters from a dismal economic picture at home, and a host of other problems including one of the highest murder rates in the world.

"Nicolas, you can't use asylum to cover up that you stole the election. That doesn't give you legitimacy, nor make the people forget," Capriles said on Twitter.

Speaking in Managua, President Daniel Ortega said he would gladly give Snowden asylum in Nicaragua "if circumstances permit". He did not say what those circumstances might be.

Nicaragua, one of the poorest countries in the Americas, has benefited greatly from financial support from Venezuela, and Ortega was a staunch ally of Chavez.

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Later Saturday, Bolivian President Evo Morales also said he would grant asylum to Snowden, if requested.

A bid by Snowden for Icelandic citizenship hit an impasse on Friday when the country's parliament voted not to debate the issue before its summer recess.

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Re: Nicaragua, Venezuela and Bolivia Offer Asylum to Snowden
« Reply #139 on: July 07, 2013, 04:16:51 AM »

I'm still standing with Iceland.  It's my prior understanding, however, that they were requiring him to be in-country before they'd officially consider a petition for asylum and he had to get there before he could even formally apply.  He has no guarantee from Iceland that he wouldn't be extradited, but I want him to end up there, because I don't do South America (yet) and I wanna visit a nicka.


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Re: Nicaragua, Venezuela and Bolivia Offer Asylum to Snowden
« Reply #140 on: July 07, 2013, 04:56:40 AM »
How's he going to leave Russia? They already said once he hits customs, he's on their soil, and they won't protect him. Is he going to mail himself to Venezuela?

Either way, I'm happy this guy is causing a stir, hopefully it causes us to realize the rest of the world hates us and we get our shit together.

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Re: Nicaragua, Venezuela and Bolivia Offer Asylum to Snowden
« Reply #141 on: July 07, 2013, 05:49:23 AM »
^^
I hope FSB delivers him.
It's ridiculous to think dude is there without the blessing of state, I thnk.



Putin showed he's not capable to defend Russian sovereignty and promote the interests of the nation and its partners by not giving this kid full support.
He has done a lot but maybe it would be time for him to step down now.
Bring up teh Zhirinovsky!


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Re: Nicaragua, Venezuela and Bolivia Offer Asylum to Snowden
« Reply #142 on: July 07, 2013, 06:20:32 AM »
How's he going to leave Russia? They already said once he hits customs, he's on their soil, and they won't protect him. Is he going to mail himself to Venezuela?

Either way, I'm happy this guy is causing a stir, hopefully it causes us to realize the rest of the world hates us and we get our shit together.

So what, the rest ain't any better.
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Re: Nicaragua, Venezuela and Bolivia Offer Asylum to Snowden
« Reply #143 on: July 07, 2013, 07:32:49 AM »
How's he going to leave Russia? They already said once he hits customs, he's on their soil, and they won't protect him. Is he going to mail himself to Venezuela?

Either way, I'm happy this guy is causing a stir, hopefully it causes us to realize the rest of the world hates us and we get our shit together.
He does not have to officially enter Russia in order to fly from there.  But based on what happened to the Bolivian president's plane, it sounds like he's got to find a way to find a route that won't carry him over any of the European countries who've aligned with the U.S. with respect to getting him back here. 


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Re: Nicaragua, Venezuela and Bolivia Offer Asylum to Snowden
« Reply #144 on: July 07, 2013, 10:32:11 PM »
I'm still standing with Iceland.  It's my prior understanding, however, that they were requiring him to be in-country before they'd officially consider a petition for asylum and he had to get there before he could even formally apply.  He has no guarantee from Iceland that he wouldn't be extradited, but I want him to end up there, because I don't do South America (yet) and I wanna visit a nicka.



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That's why go to S or C America and cut the bullshit.  Who wants to get stuck in a USA jail?

So enjoy...



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Re: Nicaragua, Venezuela and Bolivia Offer Asylum to Snowden
« Reply #145 on: July 08, 2013, 07:36:10 AM »
 :o

Take a pass on Bolivia. USA jail might be better.


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Re: Nicaragua, Venezuela and Bolivia Offer Asylum to Snowden
« Reply #146 on: July 08, 2013, 10:30:15 AM »
Mexico will take anyone they can get.

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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #147 on: July 08, 2013, 12:31:02 PM »
The dude wants to leave the Russians and USA holding him up wtf is he supposed to do just sleep in the airport forever?

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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #148 on: July 17, 2013, 11:13:08 AM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/15/whistleblowers-ignored_n_3588257.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

6 Whistleblowers Who Turned Out To Be Right After Being Ignored

When Edward Snowden revealed himself as the whistleblower who leaked information about the National Security Agency's data collection program, he became the subject of troves of media attention and an international manhunt.

Such a situation is relatively rare. Consider the many whistleblowers -- especially those in corporate America -- who cry foul, only to watch those cries lead to little more than silence. Too often it ends up someone should have listened. Here are some such cases:

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Re: Edward Snowden The guy has balls
« Reply #149 on: July 17, 2013, 03:19:24 PM »
Defect to the Vatican & become untouchable   ;D