Author Topic: George Zimmerman - Discussion - Guilty or Innocent? (Read 169755 times)

240 is Back · « **Reply #1000 on:** July 12, 2013, 09:33:47 AM »

Quote from: Archer77 on July 12, 2013, 09:31:16 AM

Zimmerman should have stayed in his truck. None of inconsistencies in his testimony count. They will get him on putting himself in the situation.

these inconsistencies are why he will be in prison.

We're in Florida. Self-dfense shooting in which the shooter's account of why he shot is contradicted by evidence.

It's no longer a justified shooting in the eyes of a law. Sorry Archer77, even if the shoot was legal, he's no longer afforded it - because he lied. He didn't lie about the weather - he lied about the reasons he killed a kid. That's why he'll go to jail. He wanted to make trayvon appear more menacing. Exaggerated on the 911 call, exaggerated even more with every retelling.

Shockwave · « **Reply #1001 on:** July 12, 2013, 09:34:45 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 12, 2013, 09:33:47 AM

these inconsistencies are why he will be in prison.

We're in Florida. Self-dfense shooting in which the shooter's account of why he shot is contradicted by evidence.

It's no longer a justified shooting in the eyes of a law. Sorry Archer77, even if the shoot was legal, he's no longer afforded it - because he lied. He didn't lie about the weather - he lied about the reasons he killed a kid. That's why he'll go to jail. He wanted to make trayvon appear more menacing. Exaggerated on the 911 call, exaggerated even more with every retelling.

Reasonable doubt.

Roger Bacon · « **Reply #1002 on:** July 12, 2013, 09:34:58 AM »

Quote from: Kwon_2 on July 12, 2013, 08:30:37 AM

Yes, we know this Andre

holy shit this comment is cracking me up... literally laughing out loud.

240 is Back · « **Reply #1003 on:** July 12, 2013, 09:37:05 AM »

Quote from: Shockwave on July 12, 2013, 09:34:45 AM

Reasonable doubt.

Zimm's story was discredited. That took away reasonable doubt.

He lied - his own lawyer admits - about why he shot trayvon. it's over. Maybe he'll go to jail, maybe he won't. Whtever the outcome, he is no longer afforded justified self defense when he lies about why he shot. I hope every gun owner out there realizes this - if you shoot someone, you lawyer up or you tell the truth. You don't try weaving 5 different stories, each scarier than the last lol... you DONT LIE ABOUT WHY YOU SHOT SOMEONE. YOU FUCKING DONT. It's that simple.

Archer77 · « **Reply #1004 on:** July 12, 2013, 09:38:57 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 12, 2013, 09:33:47 AM

these inconsistencies are why he will be in prison.

We're in Florida. Self-dfense shooting in which the shooter's account of why he shot is contradicted by evidence.

It's no longer a justified shooting in the eyes of a law. Sorry Archer77, even if the shoot was legal, he's no longer afforded it - because he lied. He didn't lie about the weather - he lied about the reasons he killed a kid. That's why he'll go to jail. He wanted to make trayvon appear more menacing. Exaggerated on the 911 call, exaggerated even more with every retelling.

This may be true but he still should have stayed in his truck. As a juror I would look at it as a pivotal moment.

Roger Bacon · « **Reply #1005 on:** July 12, 2013, 09:54:29 AM »

Quote from: DroppingPlates on July 12, 2013, 06:30:09 AM

I'm sure that ANDREISDAPIG would destroy her.

rofl... no question

240 is Back · « **Reply #1006 on:** July 12, 2013, 09:57:36 AM »

Quote from: Archer77 on July 12, 2013, 09:38:57 AM

This may be true but he still should have stayed in his truck. As a juror I would look at it as a pivotal moment.

i see it as 2 separate incidents - Zimm chased him, meaning trayvon was in fear of his life - zimm never should have gotten out of truck and chased.
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Then, zimm lying about so many things about the shooting =
Exaggerating injuries, panicking about shooting, lying about the actual reasons he shot the kid.

Yesterday, I actually laughed out loud at some getbigger that said zimm didn't lie about anything that mattered. Are you kidding? He lied about injuries. About to black out. Smothering about to lead to blackout - plenty of breath and voice til the last moment. His own lawyer just owned all those lies because (IMO) everyone in that courtroom konws that flimsy story has unraveled.

Without that flimsy story, he's just a wannabe MMA cop that chased a kid 2 blocks to catch and shoot him. That story kept him out of jail - and he poisoned it by giving us so many lies.

Nails · « **Reply #1007 on:** July 12, 2013, 09:58:45 AM »

Quote from: Parker on July 12, 2013, 09:33:19 AM

http://gawker.com/this-courtesy-of-msnbc-is-trayvon-martins-dead-body-753370712?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=morning

A thug wearing tan tight Khakis and a hoodie in the rain

Zimmerman will HANG

240 is Back · « **Reply #1008 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:00:05 AM »

2 weeks ago, a lot of getbiggers were gloating about the prosecution putting up their weak shit early. Some said "it's about first impressions!"

No, 2 weeks ago is ancient history. Jury goes in today with one thought in mind - zimmerman is a liar.

Everyone was confident of acquittal 2 weeks ago. Has that changed?

Kwon_2 · « **Reply #1009 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:01:02 AM »

Quote from: P.I.P on July 12, 2013, 09:54:29 AM

rofl... no question

Looks like Andre Da Pig already destroyed her!

Kahn.N.Singh · « **Reply #1010 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:05:05 AM »

Common sense? Use your heart?

The use of argumentum ad passiones and argumentum ad populum in closing arguments is the desperate recourse of weak-case prosecutions and the last refuge of scoundrels.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #1011 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:19:41 AM »

Quote from: Parker on July 11, 2013, 04:18:34 PM

Sometimes Coach you amaze me...
The DA had to take this case, a dead unarmed 17 yr old, a armed man who was told to chill and stay in the car...
It was politicized not by Obama, even though he gave it some steam but by others.
Let's not make this about Obama...stop fitting Obama into everything.

Here you go Parker, apparently I may not be too far off...

http://www.infowars.com/judge-in-zimmerman-case-pressured-by-obama-administration/

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/judge-debra-nelson-873407

What's the lefts motto? Never let a crisis go to waste?

Roger Bacon · « **Reply #1012 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:20:38 AM »

When will the verdict be in? Later today? Monday?

240 is Back · « **Reply #1013 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:22:00 AM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on July 12, 2013, 10:19:41 AM

Here you go Parker, apparently I may not be too far off...
http://www.infowars.com/judge-in-zimmerman-case-pressured-by-obama-administration/

ya gotta be careful there - the headline has a QUESTION mark, and it's from a 911 truther website. Are they a credible website suddenly? lol

The True Adonis · « **Reply #1014 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:22:53 AM »

Roger Bacon · « **Reply #1015 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:23:15 AM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on July 12, 2013, 10:19:41 AM

Here you go Parker, apparently I may not be too far off...

http://www.infowars.com/judge-in-zimmerman-case-pressured-by-obama-administration/

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/judge-debra-nelson-873407

What's the lefts motto? Never let a crisis go to waste?

Damn, never thought I would see you post an infowars link!!!

Archer77 · « **Reply #1016 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:25:46 AM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on July 12, 2013, 10:19:41 AM

What's the lefts motto? Never let a crisis go to waste?

Isn't that pretty much the motto of any political party.

Nails · « **Reply #1017 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:28:20 AM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on July 12, 2013, 10:19:41 AM

Here you go Parker, apparently I may not be too far off...

http://www.infowars.com/judge-in-zimmerman-case-pressured-by-obama-administration/

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/judge-debra-nelson-873407

What's the lefts motto? Never let a crisis go to waste?

Ronnie Rep · « **Reply #1018 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:29:25 AM »

240 have you ever had jury duty in Florida?

jwb · « **Reply #1019 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:29:46 AM »

He had his gun out when he approached him. Kid didn't see it at started wailing on him. Z then blew him away.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #1020 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:33:01 AM »

Quote from: jwb on July 12, 2013, 10:29:46 AM

He had his gun out when he approached him. Kid didn't see it at started wailing on him. Z then blew him away.

Proof?

chaos · « **Reply #1021 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:37:20 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 12, 2013, 10:33:01 AM

Proof?

240 said......

240 is Back · « **Reply #1022 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:41:51 AM »

Quote from: Ronnie Rep on July 12, 2013, 10:29:25 AM

240 have you ever had jury duty in Florida?

nope. early on, i had kid during day which excluded me. these days, i'd love to be on a jury just for the ability to chat about it on getbig. But i'd probably get bounced during selection. I'd wear a "Birther/Truther" t-shirt and be bounced in 2 minutes. Plus I have some LEO in family.

Nails · « **Reply #1023 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:42:11 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 12, 2013, 10:33:01 AM

Proof?

Because without the gun, he never gets out of the car

you can tell by his severe weight gain , zimmerman has no self control

the second zimmerman caught up to trayvon he drew out the gun

his lack of willpower sickens me

240 is Back · « **Reply #1024 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:43:00 AM »