George Zimmerman - Discussion - Guilty or Innocent?

[Soul Crusher]

 

[Soul Crusher]

adam you're so much smarter than this it's disappointing that you could possibly believe what you're typing. where was george when he got assaulted? was he sitting on a park bench doing a sudoku puzzle, or was he stalking a teenager in the middle of the night and then got out of his car to pursue him further?

He was walking BACK to his car after losing sight of Ashtray

[Rami]

god, won't this fucking story go away ?  

Not as long as Obama laments to the press about it

[MisterMagoo]

He was walking BACK to his car after losing sight of Ashtray

according to who?

oh, right, the guy who shot him. yes, i'm sure his testimony is totally believable.

again, if trayvon had shot zim, would you have believed him when he said he was just walking along and suddenly zim tackled him full-on?

[HockeyFightFan]

You don't know what was said, Zimmerman is a proven liar. So don't state that as if it were fact, it's not, it's hearsay.

Hey cocoa puff....what Law School did you graduate from?

[Archer77]

if trayvon had shot zim, would you have believed him when he said he was just walking along and suddenly zim tackled him full-on?

I might have.

[Soul Crusher]

according to who?

oh, right, the guy who shot him. yes, i'm sure his testimony is totally believable.

again, if trayvon had shot zim, would you have believed him when he said he was just walking along and suddenly zim tackled him full-on?

The evidence based on the 911 call, the witnesses, the cops believing the story 3x over etc

[240_Iz_Nutz]

Casing houses?  Is that an established fact Mr. Lawyer?  Because you and I both know it's hearsay you're trying to pass off as fact. So stop.

I have tried to give Obama the benefit of the doubt on many things. Why come out and start this shit again? Like I said in another thread, I just wish both of them what have gotten ran over by a truck. Some of that crap that apparently Obama said today almost sounds like court cases need to be rigged to get what a particular cause wants and they are looking into it.

[bradistani]

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Agree

Back to oiled posing trunks and What you bench stories

or even the latest injustice.

this could become your 'stephen lawrence'.. aka, never-fucking-ending.

[MisterMagoo]

I might have.

which just makes you wonder why everyone is just so gosh-darned positive zim is being honest, doesn't it?

The evidence based on the 911 call, the witnesses, the cops believing the story 3x over etc

1) the call clearly shows he was following trayvon, and ends before anything happened.

2) the witnesses only said that trayvon was on top of zim, not how the fight started.

3) yes, the cops bought the story of the grown-up neighborhood watch guy. that's not exactly shocking.

[Soul Crusher]

which just makes you wonder why everyone is just so gosh-darned positive zim is being honest, doesn't it?

1) the call clearly shows he was following trayvon, and ends before anything happened.

2) the witnesses only said that trayvon was on top of zim, not how the fight started.

3) yes, the cops bought the story of the grown-up neighborhood watch guy. that's not exactly shocking.

Jabba said she thought Tray decked zimm first

[Archer77]

I have tried to give Obama the benefit of the doubt on many things. Why come out and start this shit again? Like I said in another thread, I just wish both of them what have gotten ran over by a truck. Some of that crap that apparently Obama said today almost sounds like court cases need to be rigged to get what a particular cause wants and they are looking into it.

You don't see obama saying anything about the reprisal attacks.  Seems like the presidental thing to do.

[Soul Crusher]

Obama said he was "bouncing around" ideas with his staff on how to respond to the Zimmerman verdict, adding, "I think it is going to be important for us to do some soul searching." Pushing against Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, Obama stated, "If Trayvon Martin was of his age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk?"



     

[The True Adonis]

adam you're so much smarter than this it's disappointing that you could possibly believe what you're typing. where was george when he got assaulted? was he sitting on a park bench doing a sudoku puzzle, or was he stalking a teenager in the middle of the night and then got out of his car to pursue him further?

Its not illegal to follow someone you suspect is up to no good.

[Archer77]

which just makes you wonder why everyone is just so gosh-darned positive zim is being honest, doesn't it?

Everyone has their position on this case, some more rational than others.  I personally think it was an unfortunate series of events that resulted in the death of a teenager.  What's terrible is the way this has been politicized.  People who don't normally care about what happens in their community suddenly found the time to be up in arms. 

[240 is Back]

18 months ago, I predicted Obama woudl use this zimmerman idiot case to further limit gun rights.

now, he is officially going after 'stand our ground'.  Good luck adding it to more states.  Good luck keeping it in states that have it.  Right now, hundreds of people are sitting in the governor's mansion refusing to leave until he addresses stand your ground.

Thank you, zimmerman, you fat bumbling fool  -   You ran headfirst into an alley to confront a person you told 911 operators was on drugs and possibly armed.  you WANTED trigger time, you wanted to be the hero.

Now, as a result, americans are going to lose gun rights.  You idiot.  And everyone applauding zimmerman - please step back - he's had a felony arrest/plead, domestic abuse, this shooting he ran into, and now, his actions (he initially claimed stand your ground) is going to COST YOU SOME GUN RIGHTS>  

[Psychopath]

Obama and Bush turned the title of President into a solid joke.

[Soul Crusher]

He also suggested that the outcome of the case could have been different if Martin were white.

"If a white male teen would have been involved in this scenario," he said, "both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different."




 

[240 is Back]

according to who?

oh, right, the guy who shot him. yes, i'm sure his testimony is totally believable.

again, if trayvon had shot zim, would you have believed him when he said he was just walking along and suddenly zim tackled him full-on?

Under FL law, trayvon could have shot zimmerman 15 times in the head - and claimed he feared for his life.  And he would be LEGAL.  So yeah, hte law is a little fcked up - it's WAY too wide open for interpretation.  It used to be we had a duty to retreat - take 1-2 steps back from any violent situation if possible - and that eliminated 95% of gun battles.  If you ran into it (as zimmerman did), you were charged with starting the fight/shooting.

Please, please - people, stop worshipping zimmerman.  He is eroding your gun right.  HE claimed stand your ground until the author of the bill begged him to step.  HE ran into a gun battle to face down a person he claimed was armed and high.  HE wanted that gun battle because he thought trayvon stole his bike.

Zimm lied repeatedly on the stand - his own lawyer admitted it.

[Wiggs]

18 months ago, I predicted Obama woudl use this zimmerman idiot case to further limit gun rights.

now, he is officially going after 'stand our ground'.  Good luck adding it to more states.  Good luck keeping it in states that have it.  Right now, hundreds of people are sitting in the governor's mansion refusing to leave until he addresses stand your ground.

Thank you, zimmerman, you fat bumbling fool  -   You ran headfirst into an alley to confront a person you told 911 operators was on drugs and possibly armed.  you WANTED trigger time, you wanted to be the hero.

Now, as a result, americans are going to lose gun rights.  You idiot.  And everyone applauding zimmerman - please step back - he's had a felony arrest/plead, domestic abuse, this shooting he ran into, and now, his actions (he initially claimed stand your ground) is going to COST YOU SOME GUN RIGHTS>  

You said it first and I agreed Rob, you were right. It's pretty obvious. That or our conspiracy-theorist-itis is acting up again. 

[Rami]

Obama said he was "bouncing around" ideas with his staff on how to respond to the Zimmerman verdict, adding, "I think it is going to be important for us to do some soul searching." Pushing against Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, Obama stated, "If Trayvon Martin was of his age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk?"



     

Odd that a president would go down this path. He only sounds ignorant and misinformed. WTF  

Didn't Obama say he had a lawyer license?

[Soul Crusher]

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/19/19563211-obama-trayvon-martin-could-have-been-me



Never let a crisis go to waste.

FU Obama, worthless grifter

[The True Adonis]

Under FL law, trayvon could have shot zimmerman 15 times in the head - and claimed he feared for his life.  And he would be LEGAL.  So yeah, hte law is a little fcked up - it's WAY too wide open for interpretation.  It used to be we had a duty to retreat - take 1-2 steps back from any violent situation if possible - and that eliminated 95% of gun battles.  If you ran into it (as zimmerman did), you were charged with starting the fight/shooting.

Please, please - people, stop worshipping zimmerman.  He is eroding your gun right.  HE claimed stand your ground until the author of the bill begged him to step.  HE ran into a gun battle to face down a person he claimed was armed and high.  HE wanted that gun battle because he thought trayvon stole his bike.

Zimm lied repeatedly on the stand - his own lawyer admitted it.

Wrong.  Trayvon would have been arrested and unable to prove any claim of self defense.  Hope this helps. 

[240 is Back]

You said it first and I agreed Rob, you were right. It's pretty obvious. That or our conspiracy-theorist-itis is acting up again.  

thanks man.  I've been mocked on getbig for 18 months with "where are the eroding gun rights you promised!" and "you just support trayvon, that's why you diss zimmerman!"

No, I think trayvon probably belonged in jail for being a drug dealer.  I disliked zimm because he put that into public spectrum "Stand your ground".  Everyone in FL knew the law didn't apply one bit to zimmerman - he was the one advancing 2 blocks for a confrontation.  If anything, it was a self-defense shooting/justifiable homicide, but NOT castel doctrine and NOT SYG.

These ignorant people that love their guns and love zimmerman - you are supporting losing gun rights when you applaud zimmerman.  If you love your guns, you fcking HATE zimmerman - the worst kind of gun owner.  Grabbed his 9mm and ran into a dark alley for a showdown with a person he claimed was high and armed (on phone, he said that).

[Wiggs]

thanks man.  I've been mocked on getbig for 18 months with "where are the eroding gun rights you promised!" and "you just support trayvon, that's why you diss zimmerman!"

No, I think trayvon probably belonged in jail for being a drug dealer.  I disliked zimm because he put that into public spectrum "Stand your ground".  Everyone in FL knew the law didn't apply one bit to zimmerman - he was the one advancing 2 blocks for a confrontation.  If anything, it was a self-defense shooting/justifiable homicide, but NOT castel doctrine and NOT SYG.

These ignorant people that love their guns and love zimmerman - you are supporting losing gun rights when you applaud zimmerman.  If you love your guns, you fcking HATE zimmerman - the worst kind of gun owner.  Grabbed his 9mm and ran into a dark alley for a showdown with a person he claimed was high and armed (on phone, he said that).

Great post. all the way great post.