Big Ramy Fan says the Olympia belongs to him

[DroppingPlates]

"It doesn't matter how long you train"
That's a nice slip of the tongue.

[anabolichalo]

"It doesn't matter how long you train"
That's a nice slip of the tongue.

i remember DJ telling his story

and i think he also went straight to the top in record time

[DroppingPlates]

i remember DJ telling his story

and i think he also went straight to the top in record time

He lived in Thailand for a good reason, to build an anabolic empire and to be his own supplier.

[anabolichalo]

DJ's english is sounding more and more like the broken arab english

[OTHstrong]

Shawn said Ramy is a better Nasser only because Nasser called him chihuahua and revealed some nice things about him.

That's your opinion, the real reason he said he was better then Nasser is because he is bigger then Nasser, he has a better back then Nasser and he has a smaller gut then Nasser, simple as that.

[local hero]

DJ's english is sounding more and more like the broken arab english

british posters will be quite familiar with this phenomenon .. it spread at the lips of steve maclaren and has spread far and wide in sporting circles...

[OTHstrong]

Our opinions differ. That can happen.

In my opinion, having seen and known Nasser in his prime, Ramy sure hasn't got a better back then Nasser (wider yes, but less detailed and less dense). Let's just say that they're both not top in the back department. But Nasser had a hell of a midsection and excellent calves. And density, maturity, detail and lines.

But hey, I'm not going to fight with you because you think that the new guy is better then the old. Don't want to sound like the old fart that thinks everything from the good old days was better.

But it's my humble opinion, having seen all those guys with my own eyes, that the bodybuilders of the nineties get overlooked and underestimated. Progress is not an automatism in time. The best of 2013 is not necessarily better then the best of 1994 (Yates) or 1997 (Nasser).

But that's another thread.

Nasser's back was never even half of Ramy', second worse back in history

[ukjeff]

Nasser's back was never even half of Ramy', second worse back in history

behind Strydom?

[OTHstrong]

behind Strydom?

I was thinking Paul Dillet but yes forgot about Gary, fine third worse, lol

[OTHstrong]

Oh my God, you're bringing up Paul Dillet... this discussion can bring us far.

Just allow me to say two things:

1. Paul Dillet was THE genetic freak of BB history (I mean: responder to the gear of that time + training). The only guy I have known who created the illusion of density without having to train hard for it. His posing was awefull and his conditioning not always top, but those who always talk about "big" Ramy... did you ever see "big" Paul Dillet in his prime (front I mean)?? Paul was 6ft and 280... I won't say anything else, some people will know what I mean.

2. Stop saying things like "no back" about people who were absolute TOP bodybuilders, like Strydom, Dillet and Nasser. It's not because their back was not their strongest point and was overshadowed by their strong points that they had a lousy back. It's like all those guys saying that Yates had "no arms". You don't know what you're talking about.

bro their backs could not even be compared to a regional level competitors, they had shit backs, not it was not there best, shit shit and more shit, Dillet did not have any detail whatsoever, local winners from local shows have better backs, and that is a fact. He was missing muscles, almost like they did not exist.

As for Dilltet being 6 foot 280, what is that compared to Ramy 5`10 290, I have seen Dillet hundreds of times, I am from Canada

[Nails]

First year Without the SCHMOE GOD joe weider ,



Wonder how much his scoring points mattered to the judges

[OTHstrong]

1. If Dillet's, Nasser's and Strydom's backs are shit, I would like to see the one from who says so. Sorry but I think you're an internet warrior who's just repeating what he read somewhere. It's not because Nasser had "no back" compared to Yates, that his back was worse then "a local competitor". This proves you don't know nothing and never even saw one of these guys. That makes me understand better your love for Ramy too. You just saw some pics of him and felt appealed. Good thing for you, but hardly a valid opinion.

2. That's exactly what I mean. Dillet was 2 inches taller then Ramy but was only 280 (real). I have actually SEEN Paul training in his prime, and believe me this guy was huge. If Ramy is really 290 while being a full 2 inch shorter and carries 10 pounds less calves, this would (in numbers) mean that the part of his body above his knees is MUCH bigger then Paul Dillet's. Well, frankly I don't see it. Where are those pounds?

Same with Marcus Ruhl. Knew the guy very well in Germany. His highest contest weight was 285, of which (I admit) at least 15 pounds was in the gut. Marcus was/is the epitome of "mass monster". Being one inch taller then Ramy, his numbers would again point out that Ramy has to be A LOT bigger then Marcus. Please tell me you think he is, tell me you think he's wider then Ruhl. You'll make my day.

And then I didn't even talk about Ronnie! 287 at his peak! Do you think Ramy is heavier then Ronnie, while Ronny having a thicker midsection and being an inch taller?



Please people. No matter what the WWF says, Hulk Hogan does NOT have 24 inch guns and is not 6ft7 for 302 pounds. That's the only point I want to make. I'm not here because I don't like Ramy, but just to give some counterweight of common sense for this hype that's going ridiculous and disrespectful for bodybuilders of the present and the past who actually PROVED something.

Let me educate since you do not know what you speak of at all. I have been everywhere and have seen everyone, so you have seen Dillet, so what, I have seen him 100 times literally, maybe more.

Now the part you do not know is the IFBB streams off into the amateur ranks, npc, cbbf, etc etc and it is a rule, a policy that every single competitor on the planet has to be weighed in and put into their proper categories, light weight, middle weight, heavy weight, whatever it may be you have to be weighed in officially in front of a head judge. this is impossible to avoid, it is a must and a rule. So my point being that Ramy in his pro qualifier was officially weighed in at 288lb.

So boo-fucken-hoo if you think there is some big conspiracy about his weight or something, so what if you do not believe he weighs more the Markus, your dumb because the books don't lie and these are the terms of the IFBB, he was recorded at 288 and that was at his pro qualifier and was even heavier in New York at his debut.

so are you still dumb enough to ask where the pounds are when I just proved to you he in fact does weigh 290

Also not sure what you mean about ''you would like to see the one from who says so'' are you calling me out, my pics are everywhere, if that's what you meant, dillet had a shit back and I know regional level competitors that have better backs. As for Nasser, maybe not in Nasser's case cause his back was still huge just lacked detail.

Anyway, so let me get this straight, the point you were trying to make was that Ramy does not weigh 290 right? Well you failed miserably.

[old-school-lifter]

ok Ramy is a freak already and superstar in the making but as Shawn ray said , he can certainly imrpove in those areas Ray mentioned

secondly, Ramy is no where as near as complete and Nasser and does not have that  remarkable aesthetic shape, balance and symmetry Nasser had for a mass monster

but......... give Ramy time

[OTHstrong]

ok Ramy is a freak already and superstar in the making but as Shawn ray said , he can certainly imrpove in those areas Ray mentioned

secondly, Ramy is no where as near as complete and Nasser and does not have that  remarkable aesthetic shape, balance and symmetry Nasser had for a mass monster

but......... give Ramy time

You mean Ramy?  You said ''Nasser does not ....... '' lol.

[calfzilla]

It's about time someone with Great Arab Genes wins the Olympia again.

[OTHstrong]

You are trying to educate me? Now it's getting really funny.

Do I'm dumb "because the IFBB doesn't lie". So be it. Stay in your world (read: the ass of Ramy), just don't come pretending here you know anything more about bodybuilding then what you've read in a magazine. Some uninformed people might believe you.

Yes you're right, it's an obligation to weigh in the heavyweight bodybuilders to see if they are in the right category. No doubt the judges were doubting if Ramy should be in the +200 or in the -200. Couldn't see it with the bare eyes. Accurate weighing was really necessary.

Good luck with your Ramy, come back to me only when he officially weighs in at 400.

Are you fucken retarded or something??, wow, ignorance at its finest. No, you can't just look at someone and say throw him in this category you brainiac. Have you even ever attended a bodybuilding show before in your life. You fucken know nothing brother.

It's procedure, they have to be weighed in or they can not compete, this is a policy, it is called 'weigh ins'' an actual mandatory procedure and an event that takes place prior to a show. Just like the UFC, people have to be weighed in you dumbass. You think the UFC can look at someone that is 250 and say, ''well he obviously is over 205 lb'' No stupid, they still have to be weighed in. You have no fucken clue what you are talking about.  The guy is 290, it is proven, get the fuck over it

BTW I have not picked up a magazine in over 15 years.

[rudylrichards]

Oh my God, you're bringing up Paul Dillet... this discussion can bring us far.

Just allow me to say two things:

1. Paul Dillet was THE genetic freak of BB history (I mean: responder to the gear of that time + training). The only guy I have known who created the illusion of density without having to train hard for it. His posing was awefull and his conditioning not always top, but those who always talk about "big" Ramy... did you ever see "big" Paul Dillet in his prime (front I mean)?? Paul was 6ft and 280... I won't say anything else, some people will know what I mean.

2. Stop saying things like "no back" about people who were absolute TOP bodybuilders, like Strydom, Dillet and Nasser. It's not because their back was not their strongest point and was overshadowed by their strong points that they had a lousy back. It's like all those guys saying that Yates had "no arms". You don't know what you're talking about.

Spot on with Dillet.  The most impressive bb'er I've ever seen onstage in his prime. Ramy is very impressive, taking nothing away from him & I think he'll add a lot to the O stage. but Dillet would dwarf him side be side like he did everyone else he competed against.