Author Topic: Mayweather-Alvarez breaks records (Read 3028 times)

G_Thang · « **Reply #25 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:04:22 PM »

Quote from: Nicademus on June 28, 2013, 07:49:31 PM

The announcers are partly responsible for this misnomer that Alvarez has one punch KO power to begin with.

This.

won 42 (KO 30) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 1

won 44 (KO 26) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 0

Their KO stats are almost identical. Without looking up Canelo's fight history, I'd say most of his KOs are early in his career like FMW. When I've watched him, he's more of a high pressure fighter, which isn't concern for FMW, because he needs an opponent to dictate the fight for his counter game to work. Canelo is no Thomas Hearn. And I don't think he's a banger with hand speed like Berto, another guy FMW and Manny have avoided.

hardgainerj · « **Reply #26 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:07:39 PM »

Quote from: G_Thang on June 28, 2013, 08:04:22 PM

This.

won 42 (KO 30) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 1

won 44 (KO 26) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 0

Their KO stats are almost identical. Without looking up Canelo's fight history, I'd say most of his KOs are early in his career like FMW. When I've watched him, he's more of a high pressure fighter, which isn't concern for FMW, because he needs an opponent to dictate the fight for his counter game to work. Canelo is no Thomas Hearn. And I don't think he's a banger with hand speed like Berto, another guy FMW and Manny have avoided.

If Canelo can muster good combos it might be an interesting fight

Nicademus · « **Reply #27 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:08:33 PM »

Quote from: G_Thang on June 28, 2013, 08:04:22 PM

This.

won 42 (KO 30) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 1

won 44 (KO 26) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 0

Their KO stats are almost identical. Without looking up Canelo's fight history, I'd say most of his KOs are early in his career like FMW. When I've watched him, he's more of a high pressure fighter, which isn't concern for FMW, because he needs an opponent to dictate the fight for his counter game to work. Canelo is no Thomas Hearn. And I don't think he's a banger with hand speed like Berto, another guy FMW and Manny have avoided.

You made sense until the Hearns comment. Then totally fuck'd up w/ the Berto one. Berto sucks-there's nobody, especially Floyd or Pac avoiding that dude.

che · « **Reply #28 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:09:16 PM »

Quote from: hardgainerj on June 28, 2013, 08:03:21 PM

anymore examples of these freak reactions

Haha

Nicademus · « **Reply #29 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:10:35 PM »

Quote from: hardgainerj on June 28, 2013, 08:03:21 PM

anymore examples of these freak reactions

I'm sure I can find one if you can find me an example of Canelo's devastating one punch power.

che · « **Reply #30 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:16:34 PM »

Quote from: Nicademus on June 28, 2013, 08:10:35 PM

I'm sure I can find one if you can find me an example of Canelo's devastating one punch power.

Your turn Nicademus

Nicademus · « **Reply #31 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:18:26 PM »

Baldomir? Really?

I already addressed the Trout fight. Try again.

Nomad · « **Reply #32 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:21:16 PM »

Quote from: Nicademus on June 28, 2013, 07:49:31 PM

I was at the fight. The one time Canelo wobbled him was w/ a jab-which was more of a freak reaction by Trout than anything. Hardly indicative of a display of power. The announcers are partly responsible for this misnomer that Alvarez has one punch KO power to begin with.

Bit incorrect. Trout threw a jab which Canelo countered with a 1-2, with the cross sending Trout staggering all over the place with giraffe legs.

che · « **Reply #33 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:22:01 PM »

Quote from: Nicademus on June 28, 2013, 08:18:26 PM

Baldomir? Really?

I already addressed the Trout fight. Try again.

Baldomir, was known for his tough chin .

''Freak reaction'' ,hahaha

Nicademus · « **Reply #34 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:23:10 PM »

Quote from: Nomad on June 28, 2013, 08:21:16 PM

Bit incorrect. Trout threw a jab which Canelo countered with a 1-2, with the cross sending Trout staggering all over the place with giraffe legs.

You're right. The right connected.

Nicademus · « **Reply #35 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:24:50 PM »

Quote from: che on June 28, 2013, 08:22:01 PM

Baldomir, was known for his tough chin .

''Freak reaction'' ,hahaha

Baldomir? 50 year old Baldomir that isn't a natural 154lb Baldomir? That's your proof of Canelo's power? Cmon get real.

che · « **Reply #36 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:31:06 PM »

Quote from: Nicademus on June 28, 2013, 08:24:50 PM

Baldomir? 50 year old Baldomir that isn't a natural 154lb Baldomir? That's your proof of Canelo's power? Cmon get real.

Freak reaction knock down , I've been in a boxing gym since I was 12yo , I've never heard that one before

Swollen_Powell · « **Reply #37 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:33:50 PM »

bu bu but Boxing is dead

Nomad · « **Reply #38 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:33:57 PM »

Nicademus · « **Reply #39 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:34:27 PM »

That's the only way I can describe Trout's Judah light dance. Hell, even Canelo couldn't believe it.

Nicademus · « **Reply #40 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:35:26 PM »

Quote from: Swollen_Powell on June 28, 2013, 08:33:50 PM

bu bu but Boxing is dead

No doubt.

che · « **Reply #41 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:38:06 PM »

Quote from: Nicademus on June 28, 2013, 08:34:27 PM

That's the only way I can describe Trout's Judah light dance.

Because you don't know what you're talking about .

Nicademus · « **Reply #42 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:41:02 PM »

Quote from: che on June 28, 2013, 08:38:06 PM

Because you don't know what you're talking about .

If he's so devastating of a puncher why didn't he finish him then?

Trout dusted himself off and took Canelo 12.

BDsauce · « **Reply #43 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:45:10 PM »

Nicademus brother, if Canelo connects clean on Mayweather, most likely Mayweather will be down and possibly out.

Canelo can hurt ANY Jr middleweight in the world, he has power bro, now all time great power probably not, but he can crack.

Nicademus · « **Reply #44 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:49:06 PM »

Quote from: BDsauce on June 28, 2013, 08:45:10 PM

Nicademus brother, if Canelo connects clean on Mayweather, most likely Mayweather will be down and possibly out.

Canelo can hurt ANY Jr middleweight in the world, he has power bro, now all time great power probably not, but he can crack.

I just don't think it's even remotely possible that Canelo gets the opportunity to land clean on Mayweather.

But......that's why they fight. I'm still excited to be there no matter what.

che · « **Reply #45 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:49:16 PM »

Quote from: Nicademus on June 28, 2013, 08:41:02 PM

If he's so devastating of a puncher why didn't he finish him then?

Trout dusted himself off and took Canelo 12.

Dude stop it

Mike Tyson couldn't finish Buster Douglas after the knock down , Matthysse couldn't finish Alexander or Judah , Maidana couldn't finish glass jaw Amir Khan ........................ ........................ .......

your logic =stupid

Nicademus · « **Reply #46 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:54:51 PM »

Quote from: che on June 28, 2013, 08:49:16 PM

Dude stop it

Mike Tyson couldn't finish Buster Douglas after the knock down , Matthysse couldn't finish Alexander or Judah , Maidana couldn't finish glass jaw Amir Khan ........................ ........................ .......

your logic =stupid

What's stupid is you comparing Canelo's power w/ Tyson and Matthysse-who doubts their power? Canelo's track record consists of not being able to finish off blown up junior middleweights. His history bears it out.

che · « **Reply #47 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:56:40 PM »

Quote from: Nicademus on June 28, 2013, 08:54:51 PM

What's stupid is you comparing Canelo's power w/ Tyson and Matthysee-who doubts their power? Canelo's track record consists of not being able to finish off blown up junior middleweights. His history bears it out.

You win , I'm out.

BDsauce · « **Reply #48 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:57:09 PM »

Quote from: Nicademus on June 28, 2013, 08:49:06 PM

I just don't think it's even remotely possible that Canelo gets the opportunity to land clean on Mayweather.

But......that's why they fight. I'm still excited to be there no matter what.

Canelo has a stiff hard jab too, will be key for any success. He Showed some decent head movement in the Trout fight, stamina is lacking though.

The fight interests me.

Nicademus · « **Reply #49 on:** June 28, 2013, 08:57:29 PM »

Quote from: che on June 28, 2013, 08:56:40 PM

You win , I'm out.

Don't let facts get in the way of your story. White flag accepted.