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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2013, 01:02:40 PM »
Ashtrayvon found that out the hard way no? 
yep, dumbass never should have been walking home with skittles and an ice tea

if only he'd gotten a Mountain Dew instead

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2013, 01:04:56 PM »
yep, dumbass never should have been walking home with skittles and an ice tea

if only he'd gotten a Mountain Dew instead

we still have zero proof trayvon threw the first punch.  we will never have proof of this.  People just accept zimm's word on this, even though he has lied about several other aspects of that night.  All of these lies had one thing in common - they all bolstered his self-defense claims and they were all countered by physical evidence. 

I don't think ANY getbigger is saying zimmerman is a credible man who doesn't lie.  They are just saying they look past his lies and believe this particular statement to be true.  And that's cool. 

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2013, 01:07:59 PM »
we still have zero proof trayvon threw the first punch.  we will never have proof of this.  People just accept zimm's word on this, even though he has lied about several other aspects of that night.  All of these lies had one thing in common - they all bolstered his self-defense claims and they were all countered by physical evidence. 

I don't think ANY getbigger is saying zimmerman is a credible man who doesn't lie.  They are just saying they look past his lies and believe this particular statement to be true.  And that's cool. 

We are saying that we can not prove that he is lying about it.

That's not the same thing.

Most of us are looking at the law. Is it perfect? Hell no, but that's how it is. We also believe that it's the CHARGE at this the problem... Murder does not equal Manslaughter.

If the charge was different, most of us wouldn't even blink an eye.


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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2013, 01:10:03 PM »
yep, dumbass never should have been walking home with skittles and an ice tea

if only he'd gotten a Mountain Dew instead

Yup . 

Had he not started the fight w zimm - he would be alive

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #54 on: July 08, 2013, 01:12:34 PM »
we still have zero proof trayvon threw the first punch.  we will never have proof of this.  People just accept zimm's word on this, even though he has lied about several other aspects of that night.  All of these lies had one thing in common - they all bolstered his self-defense claims and they were all countered by physical evidence. 

I don't think ANY getbigger is saying zimmerman is a credible man who doesn't lie.  They are just saying they look past his lies and believe this particular statement to be true.  And that's cool. 

yep, been down that road many times

all we have is the word of a proven liar who has no regrets and thinks this is all gods plan

Imagine if he had said it was all allah's plan.   I wonder how that one little change would effect peoples opinion of the situation

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #55 on: July 08, 2013, 01:18:18 PM »
We are saying that we can not prove that he is lying about it.

That's not the same thing.

Most of us are looking at the law. Is it perfect? Hell no, but that's how it is. We also believe that it's the CHARGE at this the problem... Murder does not equal Manslaughter.

If the charge was different, most of us wouldn't even blink an eye.

But we can prove (from his 911 call) that he exited his vehicle while using profanity and (while out of breath possibly from running) headed in

He later admitted to police the 911 operator "told me not to" but he did it anyway.  In his mind, he was under a direct police order, and STILL bailed his vehicle in order to get closer to a person he thought to be on drugs and possibly armed.

Juries don't have perfect info.  Very rarely is a crime committed on tape.  But zimm isn't credible on the 1st punch because he lied about so many other things about who initiated it.  We don't have to believe him on this one point we cannot disprove - the burden is on him because he killed someone.  I can't chase a getbigger into an alley, shoot him, and say "he punched me first, you just didn't see that part" when I'm the punk with a gun who chased him into that alley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

33, you don't know who started the fight.  You don't  You just don't.  You have the word of a dude who shoved a cop and lied about other things that night, who chased the kid into the dark to confront him, to avoid wtinesses.   I know you hate trayvon because, well, because you do.  But it's possible they're both bags of shit.

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2013, 01:28:06 PM »
But we can prove (from his 911 call) that he exited his vehicle while using profanity and (while out of breath possibly from running) headed in

He later admitted to police the 911 operator "told me not to" but he did it anyway.  In his mind, he was under a direct police order, and STILL bailed his vehicle in order to get closer to a person he thought to be on drugs and possibly armed.

Juries don't have perfect info.  Very rarely is a crime committed on tape.  But zimm isn't credible on the 1st punch because he lied about so many other things about who initiated it.  We don't have to believe him on this one point we cannot disprove - the burden is on him because he killed someone.  I can't chase a getbigger into an alley, shoot him, and say "he punched me first, you just didn't see that part" when I'm the punk with a gun who chased him into that alley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

33, you don't know who started the fight.  You don't  You just don't.  You have the word of a dude who shoved a cop and lied about other things that night, who chased the kid into the dark to confront him, to avoid wtinesses.   I know you hate trayvon because, well, because you do.  But it's possible they're both bags of shit.

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2013, 01:30:01 PM »
Correct - and that = REASONABLE DOUBT



But we can prove (from his 911 call) that he exited his vehicle while using profanity and (while out of breath possibly from running) headed in

He later admitted to police the 911 operator "told me not to" but he did it anyway.  In his mind, he was under a direct police order, and STILL bailed his vehicle in order to get closer to a person he thought to be on drugs and possibly armed.

Juries don't have perfect info.  Very rarely is a crime committed on tape.  But zimm isn't credible on the 1st punch because he lied about so many other things about who initiated it.  We don't have to believe him on this one point we cannot disprove - the burden is on him because he killed someone.  I can't chase a getbigger into an alley, shoot him, and say "he punched me first, you just didn't see that part" when I'm the punk with a gun who chased him into that alley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

33, you don't know who started the fight.  You don't  You just don't.  You have the word of a dude who shoved a cop and lied about other things that night, who chased the kid into the dark to confront him, to avoid wtinesses.   I know you hate trayvon because, well, because you do.  But it's possible they're both bags of shit.

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2013, 01:30:25 PM »
Yup .  

Had he not started the fight w zimm - he would be alive

no way to say that is true and you should know it

Zimm could have started the fight or tried to detain him and Martin could have been trying to get away (which he had every right to do)


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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2013, 01:42:35 PM »
Correct - and that = REASONABLE DOUBT

maybe.  you know the law better than I do.   But I am pretty sure I can't chase a kid into an alley and kill him without view of witnesses, claim he punched me "a few dozen times" and that creates reasonable doubt because I have a few cuts and bumps.   people would be doing this all the time. 


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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #60 on: July 08, 2013, 01:45:21 PM »
no way to say that is true and you should know it

Zimm could have started the fight or tried to detain him and Martin could have been trying to get away (which he had every right to do)



Reasonable Doubt for murder. 

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #61 on: July 08, 2013, 01:47:30 PM »
Reasonable Doubt for murder. 

i dunno... one man did exit his vehicle with a gun and chase another 2 blocks

after mistaking him for a burglar and calling him curse words, he met him in a dark alley with no witnesses, had a fight, and shot him in the heart.

I can see why some do say murder.  One man fled two blocks to avoid a confrontation.  IF Trayvon had thrown down with zimm at the bus stop, near his truck, i'd be calling zimmerman a hero for doing what had to be done.  But the fear a person feels when they've run 2 blocks to avoid a man jumping out of a truck cursing at them?  Shit...

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #65 on: July 09, 2013, 06:53:51 PM »
that won't change the person he is.  sex crime accusations as a youth.  substance abuse ordered by state after shoving a cop.  put his hands on a woman.  cornered a high school junior in a dark alley with a gun.

he is what he is.  He'll be back on the street with a new 9mm in two weeks.  He'll walk around ready to fcking unload his weapon on any person who make him 'fear for his life'.  He'll believe he was punched several dozen times, not once.  He'll believe he was smothered, as tapes show he was not.  he'll believe he SHOULD get out and run at a person on drugs with a possible weapon, because he WANTS that kinda drama.

He'll find it again.  I just hope the small town he chooses to move to isn't mine lol... ZImmerman will have more violence in his future.  it's just how he's built.  tried to be a cop, tried mMA, tried to patrol backwards, tried to punch a cop... it's how he is.  he's not ever 30 and he's already hit his wife, pushed a cop, killed a high schooler.  Bad things just keep happenined to this guy, never his fault...

He's an idiot, but he didn't break the law.

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #66 on: July 09, 2013, 08:59:12 PM »
He's an idiot, but he didn't break the law.

isn't it terrorizing or something? 

I mean, to just grab a gun and chase someone two blocks? 

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #67 on: July 09, 2013, 09:22:54 PM »
isn't it terrorizing or something? 

I mean, to just grab a gun and chase someone two blocks? 

I don't know, I guess it was the way you mentally picture it.

My view of it is completely different...  :-\

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #68 on: July 09, 2013, 09:28:35 PM »
I don't know, I guess it was the way you mentally picture it.
My view of it is completely different...  :-\

gun or no gun... if I run two blocks to escape you - and you come to the bush i'm at, and confront me...

it's already a fistfight because i fear you are there to hurt me and now i need to protect myself. 

public menacing?  Who knows what they'll calll it.  The jury is 6 women, and 5 are moms.  I bet NONE of them want murder, but also NONE of them want zimmmerman to be cleared of all charges, and back parked at bus stops with a 9mm next week.  They'll do SOMETHING to disrupt his triumphant return to running thru yards with a 9mm accosting high school juniors.

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #69 on: July 09, 2013, 09:35:39 PM »
yep, been down that road many times

all we have is the word of a proven liar who has no regrets and thinks this is all gods plan

Imagine if he had said it was all allah's plan.   I wonder how that one little change would effect peoples opinion of the situation

Serious truth.

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #70 on: July 09, 2013, 09:37:08 PM »
Reasonable Doubt for murder. 

33, you know the legal world...

what is your prediciton for a verdict?  Murder2?  manslaughter?  gun charges?  Not Guilty on everything?   

not what SHOULD happen - what WILL happen, in your opinion?

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #71 on: July 10, 2013, 04:30:10 AM »
33, you know the legal world...

what is your prediciton for a verdict?  Murder2?  manslaughter?  gun charges?  Not Guilty on everything?   

not what SHOULD happen - what WILL happen, in your opinion?

Not guilty o murder or manslaughter.

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #72 on: July 13, 2013, 07:11:54 PM »
Feel free to listen to me about this stuff anytime.

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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2013, 07:32:33 PM »
Not guilty o murder or manslaughter.

333386 hits is out of the park once again. 


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Re: Rioting in Event of Zimmerman Acquittal
« Reply #74 on: July 13, 2013, 09:04:50 PM »
only because fox and msnbc will talk about it. 

most people won't give a flying fck, unless 'the news' tells them it's ever so important. 

one a-hole killed another a-hole, and might go to jail or might get away with it.  IT'S THAT SIMPLE!


truth.   Race riots were an invention of talk radio and msn/fox.   


Ill answer this if you can tell me what the question/answer have to do with the legality of the situation.

nothing.  i just hope his fat fucking dangerous ass moves out of florida.   I dont want him starting more shit in my state in a day, a month, a year.  People that run into gun battles don't just grow up.   Move to TX or canada lol, let him be someone else's problem.