New Phil pics vs. New Kai pic...lol

[Tito24]

after ronnie there hasnt been anything anymore.

best bber ever

[OTHstrong]

That's your opinion.... Just as I have mine
And you just pulled "most" out of thin air huh

No I did not, polls have been done and everyone says Phil, stats are there bro. Even here on getbig only 5 or 6 of you feel Kai won. Did you not watch the web cast live, every board was saying Phil has it and some were saying Kai but not even close to the amount of people who said Phil. Phil won the audience poll at the O too. Every board from bodybuilding.com to Md had most saying Phil.

All the so called experts from Aceto, to Polumbo, from Ron to Lonnie had Phil. Dorian, Kevin, Flex all had Phil, Dexter and Jay had Phil winning. Almost no one had Kai. It was not even close in comparison to the amount of people who had Phil winning it, not to mention every single judge had Phil in first, everyone of them.

This is a fact not opinion based, I did not pull that out of thin air, I can pull up the threads from everywhere if want.

[affeman]

kai is the better bber .. kai won last year .. but they gave it to phil
 phil has low inserted triceps.. and big arms against his joke of a pro chest....
so he wins its all about arms unfortunately..
 for the record kai has the bigger arms... but phil has that arm illusion

.....
complete joke..

And that's what competitive BB is about: Illusion.

There is no scale on stage, there are no measuring tapes on stage, there's no benchpress round on stage; The one who creates the better illusion is the rightfull winner.

[Tito24]

[ukjeff]

And that's what competitive BB is about: Illusion.

There is no scale on stage, there are no measuring tapes on stage, there's no benchpress round on stage; The one who creates the better illusion is the rightfull winner.

Yep, seen guys look tiny backstage and some guys looking huge and ripped.
Once they get onstage it's totally different.
Some guys do have a far better stage physique than a gym body.

[affeman]

Yep, seen guys look tiny backstage and some guys looking huge and ripped.
Once they get onstage it's totally different.
Some guys do have a far better stage physique than a gym body.

This

[Tito24]

[affeman]

If you're going by gym shots, Roelly would be Mr. O

[Parker]

Another Sandow for Phil, and another car. I think the 458 Spyder would do nicely for him. But since he's a GT type of fella, a new Aston Martin Vanquish might be in the cards.

[Tito24]

keep roelly out of this hes been through enough shit lately.

[Skeletor]

And that's what competitive BB is about: Illusion.

There is no scale on stage, there are no measuring tapes on stage, there's no benchpress round on stage; The one who creates the better illusion is the rightfull winner.

There's also the posing line and Cheath seems to ignore it. I hope he gets penalized if he does that shit again.

[mesmorph78]

And that's what competitive BB is about: Illusion.

There is no scale on stage, there are no measuring tapes on stage, there's no benchpress round on stage; The one who creates the better illusion is the rightfull winner.

Arm illusion that's it
 Nothing else
You're one if those guys who keep making those Phil arm threads
Clearly you think arms make the physique as you seem infatuated by phils arms

[OTHstrong]

Arm illusion that's it
 Nothing else
You're one if those guys who keep making those Phil arm threads
Clearly you think arms make the physique as you seem infatuated by phils arms

And you are also one of those guys who make the Phil only arms threads, come on bro, don't go there. Stick to the facts at hand. Facts are Phils body parts are all in the top 3 in the world, every part and Kais biggest critique is he does not flow.

Phil has the deepest lines out of everyone, he is the most shredded guy on stage and every body part is peeled. He has the best Hamstrings in the game, has top 2 best back, between him and Kai, has top 3 best shoulders and wins in the 4 quarter turns because he is the fullest bodybuilder on stage while in relax form.

 Bro what he brings to the table is way more then everyone else and that is why he is Mr. Olympia

[Parker]

[NarcissisticDeity]

And you are also one of those guys who make the Phil only arms threads, come on bro, don't go there. Stick to the facts at hand. Facts are Phils body parts are all in the top 3 in the world, every part and Kais biggest critique is he does not flow.

Phil has the deepest lines out of everyone, he is the most shredded guy on stage and every body part is peeled. He has the best Hamstrings in the game, has top 2 best back, between him and Kai, has top 3 best shoulders and wins in the 4 quarter turns because he is the fullest bodybuilder on stage while in relax form.

 Bro what he brings to the table is way more then everyone else and that is why he is Mr. Olympia

Phil really does have it all one of the most complete physiques today , he has size , shape , proportions , and conditioning , he looks great in most poses and will be hard to beat , Kai in my opinion can but Kai is like Levrone , big/soft or small/hard he can never quite find that right combo

But I honestly thought last year was close and it wasn't , I didn't think Phil outclassed Kai last year at all , close yes but not Phil straight firsts but then again I wasn't there and pics and video can't compare to actually being there

[OTHstrong]

cool video, thanks Parker

[Wiggs]

But Phil does not have width it severely takes away from his physique. It's not even that he doesn't have width, It's that he has narrowness.
Kai is better and many will eat their words here.

[Sophus]

How did Kai get his waiste so small recently? Did he get rid of all the visceral fat or what happened?

[mesmorph78]

No I did not, polls have been done and everyone says Phil, stats are there bro. Even here on getbig only 5 or 6 of you feel Kai won. Did you not watch the web cast live, every board was saying Phil has it and some were saying Kai but not even close to the amount of people who said Phil. Phil won the audience poll at the O too. Every board from bodybuilding.com to Md had most saying Phil.

All the so called experts from Aceto, to Polumbo, from Ron to Lonnie had Phil. Dorian, Kevin, Flex all had Phil, Dexter and Jay had Phil winning. Almost no one had Kai. It was not even close in comparison to the amount of people who had Phil winning it, not to mention every single judge had Phil in first, everyone of them.

This is a fact not opinion based, I did not pull that out of thin air, I can pull up the threads from everywhere if want.

at the end of the day phil is mr o he will always be favourite...
to me what matters is my opinion .. , i dont care who said phil won....
the pictures dont lie ....
and did you not see phil almost crying before the night show, and acting up on stage....like a bitch... he knew kai had his number....
to these eyes kai won hands down....

[NarcissisticDeity]

But Phil does not have width it severely takes away from his physique. It's not even that he doesn't have width, It's that he has narrowness.
Kai is better and many will eat their words here.

Shawn Ray was the same way , it really only effects the lats spreads and ab-thigh which Kai beats him on the lat spreads neither have a spectacular ab-thigh but I think Kai has him there too

Kai is better Phil said ' What you talking about Wiggs '

[mesmorph78]

And you are also one of those guys who make the Phil only arms threads, come on bro, don't go there. Stick to the facts at hand. Facts are Phils body parts are all in the top 3 in the world, every part and Kais biggest critique is he does not flow.

Phil has the deepest lines out of everyone, he is the most shredded guy on stage and every body part is peeled. He has the best Hamstrings in the game, has top 2 best back, between him and Kai, has top 3 best shoulders and wins in the 4 quarter turns because he is the fullest bodybuilder on stage while in relax form.

 Bro what he brings to the table is way more then everyone else and that is why he is Mr. Olympia

ive made maybe two threads if that....
but i always draw attention to the fact that all phil is is arms thats why everyone is on his bandwagon....
and i still stand by that 100%

[NarcissisticDeity]

Pic isn't to flattering 

[OTHstrong]

at the end of the day phil is mr o he will always be favourite...
to me what matters is my opinion .. , i dont care who said phil won....
the pictures dont lie ....
and did you not see phil almost crying before the night show, and acting up on stage....like a bitch... he knew kai had his number....
to these eyes kai won hands down....

What you just said here I have no problem with, this is keeping it real^^^ but some here state it like Kai winning is fact when it is based subjectively on preference and personal perception.

I personally do not see your views and that's why we bump so often but I understand them just I have a different picture in my head of what bodybuilding is about and Phil brings more essentially key components to the stage then Kai does and he simply flows better from my perception.

[Wiggs]

How did Kai get his waiste so small recently? Did he get rid of all the visceral fat or what happened?

He no longer competes in the 260s/270s. He also no longer gets to 300+ in the offseason.  He stays arounds 280 and cuts and dries out to 250s. This is why he is more streamlined and this year is the best it's looked. Props to Kai and Farah.

[ukjeff]

Phil brings more essentially key components to the stage then Kai does and he simply flows better from my perception.

Yep, in a nutshell.