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Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« on: July 09, 2013, 07:23:38 PM »
Hmmm... no shit...


Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
Published time: July 09, 2013 16:06



The Stuxnet virus that decimated Iranian nuclear facilities was created by the NSA and co-written by Israel, Edward Snowden has confirmed. The whistleblower added the NSA has a web of foreign partners who pay “marginal attention to human rights.”

In an interview with Jacob Applebaum published in German daily Der Spiegel on Monday, Snowden stated that the US and Israel were behind the computer worm. Stuxnet infiltrated Iranian nuclear facility networks in 2009-2010 and was used to change the speed of thousands of gas-spinning centrifuges, sabotaging nuclear research.    

Washington and Tel Aviv were thought to have been behind the cyber-attack, however, this was never confirmed by either government.

“The NSA and Israel wrote Stuxnet together,” Snowden told Applebaum in the interview that was carried out in May.

Snowden stressed that the National Security Agency (NSA) often cooperates with foreign partners through a special body known as the Foreign Affairs Directorate (FAD). Referring to Britain, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, also known as the ‘Five Eye Partners,’ he said their practices often go further than those of the NSA.

In particular he flagged the system used by the UK’s General Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), TEMPORA as one of the worst offenders.

“TEMPORA is the signals intelligence community's first ‘full-take’ internet buffer that doesn't care about content type and pays only marginal attention to the Human Rights Act,” said Snowden.

The UK buffer is able to hold a vast quantity of internet data for up to three days, said the whistleblower.

“You should never send information over British lines or British servers. Even the Queen’s ‘selfies’ with her lifeguards would be recorded, if they existed.”

While Snowden conceded that monitoring abroad had its limits and the NSA has to prioritize the information it collects, he stressed that monitoring on its own territory was “practically limitless.”

Private enterprise is also involved in the NSA’s mass collating of internet data, but proving their complicity is very difficult.

“The names of the cooperating telecom companies are the crown jewels of the NSA... Generally you can say that multinationals with headquarters in the USA should not be trusted until they prove otherwise,” Snowden pointed out.

When asked about how one could avoid falling into the traps of NSA surveillance, Snowden said anyone who had been targeted “was just owned.” The analyst charged with following an individual receives a report every day, meaning the “target's machine doesn't belong to them anymore, it belongs to the US government.”
Cypherpunks

Snowden’s interviewer, 30-year-old Jacob Applebaum, has also fallen foul of US law enforcement in the past. Applebaum co-wrote a book with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange detailing tips on how to evade cyber-surveillance while surfing the web.

The book called ‘Cypherpunks: Freedom and the Future of the Internet’, was also co-written by Jeremie Zimmermann and Andy Muller-Maguhn. Assange invited his co-authors on to the Julian Assange show, which aired on RT last year in March, to discuss cyber resistance.

“Two of them, besides myself, have been targeted by law enforcement agencies as a result of their work to safeguard privacy and to keep governments accountable. Their words, and their stories, need to be heard,” Assange told the New York Times.

The members of the Cypherpunks movement shared their stories with Julian Assange whilst sitting down to discuss the problems of privacy, online communication and freedom on the internet.

US citizen Edward Snowden is believed to be eluding an extradition order to the US on charges of espionage in the transit zone of Moscow’s Sheremetyevo Airport. Snowden has sent a number of applications for political asylum. Thus far Venezuela and Nicaragua have confirmed receipt of the applications, but are yet to grant asylum. However, Snowden is still unable to travel as his passport has been voided by the US authorities.

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2013, 07:51:42 PM »
This is shit that should not be revealed.

Tell us all you want about the NSA's violations of our constitution, or anything that we should be worried about domestically, but keep your mouth shut about the classified shit we do to the rest of the world. Everyone knows we spy and engage in varying sorts of surveillance and electronic attacks/defense... and the US has no obligation to the rest of the world like it has to it's citizens. I couldn't give a fuck less about our efforts to cripple Iran's nuclear program... But I do give a fuck that they're illegally spying on US citizens without proper cause/search warrants.

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2013, 08:47:31 PM »
This is shit that should not be revealed.

That was my first thought too...  :-\

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2013, 04:46:48 AM »
The Obama regime leaked this to the press last year when they were looking to score points before the election anyway.

I find the scope and complexity of that worm pretty impressive.

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2013, 05:05:57 AM »
This is shit that should not be revealed.

Tell us all you want about the NSA's violations of our constitution, or anything that we should be worried about domestically, but keep your mouth shut about the classified shit we do to the rest of the world. Everyone knows we spy and engage in varying sorts of surveillance and electronic attacks/defense... and the US has no obligation to the rest of the world like it has to it's citizens. I couldn't give a fuck less about our efforts to cripple Iran's nuclear program... But I do give a fuck that they're illegally spying on US citizens without proper cause/search warrants.
rest of the world (not included usas lapdogs) applause snowden.

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2013, 05:43:04 AM »
rest of the world (not included usas lapdogs) applause snowden.
Thats finw (and you should, if it has a negative impact on your country), buy dont fool yourself into thinking that your own government is somehow different than ours, they do the same shit in order to keep tabs on the enemy and attempt to keepnits citizens safe from harms way. Its a fact of life that all 1st world governments use their militaries amd various agencies to spy on other, carry out covert attacks, etc. This whole "us vs america" shit is dumb, you all do it, just on a smaller scale.

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2013, 09:23:07 AM »
The Obama regime leaked this to the press last year when they were looking to score points before the election anyway.

I find the scope and complexity of that worm pretty impressive.

I can't even imagine how smart the programmers must be to design something like it. Unbelievable

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aidn
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2013, 09:25:44 AM »
Thats finw (and you should, if it has a negative impact on your country), buy dont fool yourself into thinking that your own government is somehow different than ours, they do the same shit in order to keep tabs on the enemy and attempt to keepnits citizens safe from harms way. Its a fact of life that all 1st world governments use their militaries amd various agencies to spy on other, carry out covert attacks, etc. This whole "us vs america" shit is dumb, you all do it, just on a smaller scale.

Yes!!

Our government acts in the first worlds best interest,  they all agree and support us.  We take all the shit for it though... lol


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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2013, 09:36:11 AM »
I'm mixed on this.  Some state secrets should remain secret for the sake of national security as well as protecting operatives CURRENTLY in the field.  However, as many have stated I applaud any revelations of our governments wrong doing particularly in reference to violations of civil liberties such as in the case of domestic surveillance.
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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2013, 11:21:44 AM »
The Obama regime leaked this to the press last year when they were looking to score points before the election anyway.

I find the scope and complexity of that worm pretty impressive.

false

The Obama Administration didn't leak it

A former general is currently under DOJ investigation for leaking it

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/28/general-cartwright-investigated-stuxnet-leak

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2013, 11:26:03 AM »
false

The Obama Administration didn't leak it

A former general is currently under DOJ investigation for leaking it

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/28/general-cartwright-investigated-stuxnet-leak

LOL.  And they didn't leak the OBL raid intel either.   ::)  ::)  ::)

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2013, 11:30:15 AM »
false

The Obama Administration didn't leak it

A former general is currently under DOJ investigation for leaking it

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/28/general-cartwright-investigated-stuxnet-leak

everything is OB's fault!

Its completely legit!


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LOL.  And they didn't leak the OBL raid intel either.   ::)  ::)  ::)

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2013, 11:30:47 AM »
LOL.  And they didn't leak the OBL raid intel either.   ::)  ::)  ::)

ADHD much ?




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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2013, 11:33:35 AM »
everything is OB's fault!

Its completely legit!


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In this case it is.  His admn leaks like a sive and acts counter to the law and USC, not that you give a damn, but that's a different story. 

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2013, 11:47:46 AM »
In this case it is.  His admn leaks like a sive and acts counter to the law and USC, not that you give a damn, but that's a different story. 

yeah and his Administration is also getting shit for going after leakers very aggressively so make up your mind ( oh wait, scratch that , I forgot  you were bipolar or maybe even tripolar if there is such a thing)

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2013, 11:51:02 AM »
yeah and his Administration is also getting shit for going after leakers very aggressively so make up your mind ( oh wait, scratch that , I forgot  you were bipolar or maybe even tripolar if there is such a thing)

He only goes after leakers who make him look as bad as he is.  He never went after leakers who make him look good. 


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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2013, 11:56:42 AM »
He only goes after leakers who make him look as bad as he is.  He never went after leakers who make him look good. 

then why is the DOJ going after general Cartwright

doesn't taking down Iran centrifuges make him look good?

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2013, 11:59:25 AM »
In this case it is.  His admn leaks like a sive and acts counter to the law and USC, not that you give a damn, but that's a different story. 

yeah and his Administration is also getting shit for going after leakers very aggressively so make up your mind ( oh wait, scratch that , I forgot  you were bipolar or maybe even tripolar if there is such a thing)


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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2013, 12:00:24 PM »
then why is the DOJ going after general Cartwright

doesn't taking down Iran centrifuges make him look good?

did they charge him w anything?  No.  O-Twink has charged more people under the espionage act for leaks than all previous prez COMBINED.

So much for transparency.   ::)  ::)

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2013, 12:03:08 PM »
did they charge him w anything?  No.  O-Twink has charged more people under the espionage act for leaks than all previous prez COMBINED.

So much for transparency.   ::)  ::)

he is the target of an investigation by the DOJ

from the article (which obviously you didn't bother to read)

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A "target" is someone a prosecutor or grand jury has substantial evidence linking to a crime and who is likely to be charged.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/28/general-cartwright-investigated-stuxnet-leak

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2013, 12:07:15 PM »
he is the target of an investigation by the DOJ

from the article (which obviously you didn't bother to read)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/28/general-cartwright-investigated-stuxnet-leak

LOL - yeah Holders' DOJ has so much integrity and competence?   ::)  ::)  ::)

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2013, 12:42:33 PM »
LOL - yeah Holders' DOJ has so much integrity and competence?   ::)  ::)  ::)

certainly more than an insane bottom feeder alleged lawyer who lives in a ghetto and spends his days ranting about idiotic conspiracies

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2013, 12:45:25 PM »

lololololooloololoolooll ololollololol

LOL what moron? 

Did he ever go after anyone like Panetta and the others who leaked the OBL stuff?  No - case closed.  Try to keep up w the news. 

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2013, 01:09:03 PM »
LOL what moron? 

Did he ever go after anyone like Panetta and the others who leaked the OBL stuff?  No - case closed.  Try to keep up w the news. 

maybe because in Panetta's case it was described as a slip of the tongue at an award ceremony and not an intentional leak to the press like Snowden or Cartwright

try to keep up with the news (oh wait, it doesn't matter since you just go batshit crazy about anything regardless of the facts)

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Re: Snowden confirms NSA created Stuxnet with Israeli aid
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2013, 01:10:32 PM »
maybe because in Panetta's case it was described as a slip of the tongue at an award ceremony and not an intentional leak to the press like Snowden or Cartwright

try to keep up with the news (oh wait, it doesn't matter since you just go batshit crazy about anything regardless of the facts)

 ::)  ::)


Jesus Christ are you naïve.