What is the limit a Natty can achieve before someone claims PED?

[Soul Crusher]

What is the limit a Natty can achieve before someone claimed PED?


Seem so many people accused of PED - what is the limit a Natty can get to before its obvious they are juicing?


         

[Psychopath]

Guys 5 10 to 6foot claiming to be 200lb stage weight. 

[Soul Crusher]

Guys 5 10 to 6foot claiming to be 200lb stage weight. 

Depends on what condition no?  I have been to some Natty shows where the conditioning on a taller guy was not all that great. 

[OTHstrong]

What is the limit a Natty can achieve before someone claimed PED?


Seem so many people accused of PED - what is the limit a Natty can get to before its obvious they are juicing?


         

I would say your physique is the border line limit or within 5%, now you can have lots more muscle but not at that condition

[Soul Crusher]

I would say your physique is the border line limit or within 5%, now you can have lots more muscle but not at that condition

I think taller guys have a way harder time w BB since there is just a lot more frame to fill out. 

I been to tons of shows and seen dudes I know use (gyno, acne, etc) and look soft, etc, and I have two friends who to the best of my knowledge were clean had that hard look (but were same height as me TBH)

I almost know a few gymnasts who are shredded and thick and don't use, and could probably step on a stage w a few weeks id dieting. 

 

[Psychopath]

Depends on what condition no?  I have been to some Natty shows where the conditioning on a taller guy was not all that great. 

Yes, i'm talking about sub 6%bf.