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kobe refuses to take pay cut
« on: July 11, 2013, 01:43:43 PM »
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9469767/kobe-bryant-believes-los-angeles-lakers-extension-no-problem


Kobe Bryant says he's unwilling to take a pay cut with the Lakers on his next contract.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2013, 02:04:57 PM »
Who says they will give his old ass a new contract  ??? ???


I see jim buss doing what jerry buss did to shaq

telling him to fuck off

only problem is Kobe will not win a ring outside of LA , he will be like MJ at the wizards








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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2013, 03:45:53 PM »
kobe brings the money in, TV money, fans, merchandise etc...he should get paid fairly, not 30M but not the veterans minimum.

he played great last season, he single handedly won games for them.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2013, 03:48:37 PM »
Most overrated player in the history of the game, only time I ever was truly impressed with his game was during that season where he had the string of 40 point games.Never steps up in the playoffs, has no memorable playoff moments, seems to go 12/30 every game and has maybe the worst shot selection I've ever seen from an all star player.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2013, 03:51:00 PM »
 army just nailed it

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2013, 03:51:29 PM »
kobe brings the money in, TV money, fans, merchandise etc...he should get paid fairly, not 30M but not the veterans minimum.

he played great last season, he single handedly won games for them.


I am born and raised in Los Angeles , I'm a Laker fan, I hate watching the lakers, and i go to about 3 games a year cus my girl makes me go with her

I would say 40% of kobes career points are from the free thrown line

more whistles are called during laker games then any other game played in the NBA

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2013, 03:51:53 PM »
Most overrated player in the history of the game, only time I ever was truly impressed with his game was during that season where he had the string of 40 point games.Never steps up in the playoffs, has no memorable playoff moments, seems to go 12/30 every game and has maybe the worst shit selection I've ever seen from an all star player.

i have to agree. ball hog, lebron takes games over more then kobe does.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2013, 03:57:57 PM »
Most overrated player in the history of the game, only time I ever was truly impressed with his game was during that season where he had the string of 40 point games.Never steps up in the playoffs, has no memorable playoff moments, seems to go 12/30 every game and has maybe the worst shit selection I've ever seen from an all star player.

i agree with you 100%

i argue with friends all the time, i ask them all the time, mention a memorable game in the finals where kobe will be immortalized and nobody can mention one, of all the finals he has played in i have never heard of one single game that he shined in

all they keep saying is 81 points against a shitty raptors in a regular shitty season game


Kobe has NEVER once been a FINALS MVP , Pau Gosal got rapped for those Final MVP by the NBA

shit if it wasnt gosal Trevor Ariza should of been that Finals MVP

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2013, 09:17:18 PM »
Please start up 10 more Laker threads arce. They have us all on the edge of our seats.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2013, 09:19:15 PM »
let me guess...

leaked by lakers for public relations damage control, before they Amnesty his ass this year?  ;)

they want WIGGINS with the #1 draft pick.  They'll win 22 games this year, baby!   Then we see them woo lebron, carmelo, and anyone else with plenty of money in 2014.  heck, Wade and Lebronny might both show up for that party haha.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2013, 09:22:57 PM »
Who says they will give his old ass a new contract  ??? ???


I see jim buss doing what jerry buss did to shaq

telling him to fuck off

only problem is Kobe will not win a ring outside of LA , he will be like MJ at the wizards









wrong.  mj got 20-30 mil per season his last two years with the bulls.  washington wasn't about championships, just extending his days a bit long.  kobe thinks he can win.  he'd be the fuck out of LA if i was the owner, esp since he's coming back with a fucked up heal.  mj even took less money at one time to insure the bulls could pay pippen and rodman 9 mil+ a season.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2013, 09:25:52 PM »
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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2013, 09:26:41 PM »
wrong.  mj got 20-30 mil per season his last two years with the bulls.  washington wasn't about championships, just extending his days a bit long.  kobe thinks he can win.  he'd be the fuck out of LA if i was the owner, esp since he's coming back with a fucked up heal.  mj even took less money at one time to insure the bulls could pay pippen and rodman 9 mil+ a season.

DIdnt the bulls refuse to give jordan a contract after it was over and the only team to offer him one was washington ?

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2013, 09:31:51 PM »
DIdnt the bulls refuse to give jordan a contract after it was over and the only team to offer him one was washington ?

where did you get that?  i was young, but i remember him retiring again, talking about ownership (i think he wanted a % of the bulls) and finally going with washington as  a players vs being a owner since both can't be done.  he was looking for a elway/broncos deal with the bulls and they weren't having it, nothing about a  7th ring and kobe deal.  fuck kobe!

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2013, 09:35:32 PM »
where did you get that?  i was young, but i remember him retiring again, talking about ownership (i think he wanted a % of the bulls) and finally going with washington as  a players vs being a owner since both can't be done.  he was looking for a elway/broncos deal with the bulls and they weren't having it, nothing about a  7th ring and kobe deal.  fuck kobe!


Yea that might be it,

I can only vaguely remember it in the news jordan leaving the bulls front office in his ferrari? Upset with bulls

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2013, 10:07:23 PM »
let me guess...

leaked by lakers for public relations damage control, before they Amnesty his ass this year?  ;)

they want WIGGINS with the #1 draft pick.  They'll win 22 games this year, baby!   Then we see them woo lebron, carmelo, and anyone else with plenty of money in 2014.  heck, Wade and Lebronny might both show up for that party haha.

Raptors want WIGGINS more than anyone. To have a "franchise" player on a Canadian team that is actually Canadian. Toronto doesn't even have to try to lose to only win 22 games. lol. LA bombs and people know something is up.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2013, 10:36:19 PM »
Kobe lost a step before the injury, thats a tough rehab for a young guy let alone a 30 something. I don't see him even performing at the level of 2012 again, which isn't much. Lakers always have a super star and they will give Kobe's $$$ to lebron plus 7 more mil a year in a long term deal. Lebron is not gonna want wade to have 1 more ring then him, which is the case if he stays in Miami.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2013, 10:52:20 PM »
Kobe lost a step before the injury, thats a tough rehab for a young guy let alone a 30 something. I don't see him even performing at the level of 2012 again, which isn't much. Lakers always have a super star and they will give Kobe's $$$ to lebron plus 7 more mil a year in a long term deal. Lebron is not gonna want wade to have 1 more ring then him, which is the case if he stays in Miami.

If Lebron went to LA it would be like Cleveland all over again. They would have to build around him once again. Better if he was leaving Miami to jump onto the Thunder or another top contender. Lebron doesn't need $$$. At this point he's chasing rings and nothing but rings.

Not sure of all of Miami's off season moves but they re-signed Birdman for peanuts, and i'm not sure about Ray Allen or Mike Miller. Wade will prob be injured 1/2 to 3/4 the season. He's the one who needs to be replaced eventually. Maybe a Nate Robinson or someone of that caliber bench/could be starter to fill the void. Get some more beef up near the basket too.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2013, 10:56:46 PM »
Arce, i said lebron will never be a laker, i like to change my opinion on that.

I think he will consider it, i mean he will get paid another $100M and if they surround him with shooters and defenders and amnesty kobe, i dont see why he will say no.

Lakers will make a big play for him and for the #1 pick.

they will thank kobe for his services, but they have a right to fuck him off too. I dont see him playing for free.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2013, 10:59:40 PM »
Arce, i said lebron will never be a laker, i like to change my opinion on that.

I think he will consider it, i mean he will get paid another $100M and if they surround him with shooters and defenders and amnesty kobe, i dont see why he will say no.

Lakers will make a big play for him and for the #1 pick.

they will thank kobe for his services, but they have a right to fuck him off too. I dont see him playing for free.

If Toronto gets the #1 pick (and they will) would you make this trade if you were the lakers?

Lakers give up:
Kobe (in a sign n trade)
1st and 2nd round picks

Toronto gives up:
1st overall pick
Rudy Gay
Landry Fields

this is a retarded move that Toronto would do.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2013, 03:47:47 AM »
 ::)   Nobody should get paid anything for bouncing a big rubber ball . Fucking absurd .

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2013, 05:27:46 AM »
If Toronto gets the #1 pick (and they will) would you make this trade if you were the lakers?

Lakers give up:
Kobe (in a sign n trade)
1st and 2nd round picks

Toronto gives up:
1st overall pick
Rudy Gay
Landry Fields

this is a retarded move that Toronto would do.

Please leave the Raps out of this.  I come to this site to escape my everyday stresses, one of those is the freakin Raptors. These off season moves they are making put me in a serious state of depression.  Good thing I signed up for another year of season tickets

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2013, 07:50:56 AM »
Please leave the Raps out of this.  I come to this site to escape my everyday stresses, one of those is the freakin Raptors. These off season moves they are making put me in a serious state of depression.  Good thing I signed up for another year of season tickets


$400 for 2 mid level seats the entire year  ??? ???

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2013, 07:56:06 AM »
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9469767/kobe-bryant-believes-los-angeles-lakers-extension-no-problem


Kobe Bryant says he's unwilling to take a pay cut with the Lakers on his next contract.
Trade him  to the Bobcats.

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Re: kobe refuses to take pay cut
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2013, 08:09:58 AM »
Its "HIS TEAM" so Kobe Bryant bring your BIG BOY pants and watch your team sink deeper into mediocrity











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In the days since Dwight Howard spurned the Los Angeles Lakers to join the Houston Rockets, fans of the NBA's most consistently successful franchise have looked toward next summer as the time for rebuilding and a return to championship contention. With big-name free agents like Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James available, the Lakers will presumably attempt to parlay their history and market into a star who can carry them into the next era.

This plan depends partially on Kobe Bryant, also a free agent in 2014, taking a pay cut. Kobe, who turns 35 in August, can take approximately $32 million in salary per season under a new max-level contract. Although he has said he plans on playing only three or four seasons, a max deal for Kobe would be the largest in the league by a considerable margin and likely eat up more than half of the 2014-15 season's salary cap (the cap this season was just set at $58.7 million). That would severely limit the Lakers' ability to bring in another star and field a championship-level team.

The organization's efforts to improve would be helped considerably if Kobe decided to take less money. Yet, according to an interview with Serena Winters of the fan site Lakers Nation, Bryant will enter negotiations with the intention of getting as much money as he possibly can. Watch the video of the interview above, and join us after the jump for the key quote:

    “I’m not taking any at all – that’s the negotiation that you have to have.” Kobe Bryant told Lakers Nation in an exclusive interview at his Kobe Basketball Academy on Wednesday. “For me to sit here and say, ‘Oh yeah, I’m just going to take a huge pay cut. Nah, I’m going to try to get as much as I possibly can.”

Well, that's probably not what Lakers fans want to hear. Of course, a lot can happen in the next year.

As ever, Kobe is a complicated person — he's at an age when most players are severely limited, if not retired, his scoring average still ranks near the top of the league. On top of that, his franchise icon status dictates that he's afforded more leeway than most players, including other All-Stars. In some ways, Kobe could take his salary as a sign of respect. To put it another way, not offering him a max-level contract could be taken as a statement that they no longer respect what he's done for the franchise.

Except Kobe's torn Achilles tendon could significantly change the circumstances of these next few seasons. Although Bryant claims to be progressing at a rapid rate — not surprising, given his work ethic — and hopes to ramp up his conditioning in August, a full recovery from this injury within the first few months of this season would be more or less unprecedented. He may want a max deal next July, but it's possible that there will be too many questions about his future to justify that sort of salary.

Perhaps Kobe will want one anyway for the issues of pride outlined above. However, the only thing Kobe needs more than respect may be relevance, the impression that he's still at the top of his profession. Throughout his career, Bryant has proven incredibly resilient and capable of maintaining his impact on conversations and arguments surrounding the NBA.

If his production drops off due to age and injury, the Lakers struggle accordingly, and the franchise clearly needs to add another star to return to even the level below contention, then Kobe may be forced to take a pay cut to stay at that point of relevance. (He could also jump ship, but the image of Kobe Bryant in another team's colors is almost too bizarre to consider.) In other words, Bryant might be committed to his maximum possible salary right now only because he hasn't stared total disappointment in the face just yet.

Kobe's been able to stay successful for many years in part because he's an expert at adjusting to circumstances and doing what's necessary to keep himself in prime position to win. Although he can be an intractable and demanding teammate, Kobe has proven himself willing to change his diet, add new wrinkles and abilities to his game, and adjust various other external, non-personality qualities to suit his aims. Under certain circumstances, taking a pay cut would be in keeping with that history. It could only be distasteful in July 2013 because he hasn't had to face the reality of July 2014.