i have wondered about this too and think to get really lean, theres no way around it.
i also have wonder if one can lose fat while glycogen stores are full (doubtfull)and how far depleted they have to be until fatburning kicks in.
but one thing is for sure, hunger means burning fat.
The best way to describe how much glycogen in your system does one have to omit to start burning fat depends on the genetics and metabolism of the individual
Genetics and metabolism; if someone has the system that allows him to be lean while eating McDonald's then he obviously is burning fat despite having nearly full glycogen stores
On the flip side if someone is orca fat then they would have to have severely low glycogen levels in order for their body to start tapping into their fat.
which is the beauty of our approach, all that goes out the window if you completely omit all glycogen, genetics and metabolism no longer play a role in burning fat because regardless of your genetics and metabolism you would be burning fat 24/7 either way.
This is something to consider because as much as these ''so called experts'' think it is a good idea to leave carbs in the diet, it might not even work with someone with shitty genetics, where as our approach will work on every single being on the planet, no matter what.