IFBB Pro -Milos Sarcev..and his 'insulin protocols'

[ESFitness]

Do you want to meet up then you can kill me?

why would I do your family a favor like that?

you're like that kid in high school who smoked weed all day and thought he was 'cool' when he laughed at people, when in reality, everybody else is laughing at you for being a loser and a burnout, knowing 20yrs later, you'd be doing the same thing... except in 'real life' we just don't waste our times with people like you. We fire you from your jobs and nobody wants to hang out with you or be your 'friend' because you're a cancer.. you're a toxic person. a piece of garbage.. that nobody has any time for (except OTHER pieces of garbage.. bigmc, flintstones, galinko, ect...)

[ESFitness]

if he mixed his own t3 powder/cap/liq, misdosing is easy.. even a misdose of 10x is easy if you're not thorough.

[Caro]

nah comeon, comeon!

a bodybuilder using peds, steroids are 1thing,cant happen too bad things apart fro gyno hairloss etc short term, but thyroid hormones and all the rest, a grown up man will inform themselves on dosages etc before doing so.

i mean, isnt it unbelievable that luke went so far and still had no idea on t3 protocols?any gymrat will know more or less how and how much t3 to use.

Any gymrat should know about t3 dosages.  However,  Luke had whats been described as a 'child's mind'. A lovely guy but a simpleton.

Luke was a victim, plain and simple.

[honest]

Luke destroyed himself with T3 many times infact every time  he looked good a week out and turned up flat smooth and small it was from his insistence on overusing the drug when he didn't have to.
Luke also took diuretics all the time, he was a very nice but totally insecure guy, I have never met someone who would put fake tan on, site inject weak bodyparts like most would on contest day and take diuretics just to walk in a gym for a regular workout, just so gym rats could be blown away. He had a sickness and it killed him, he wouldn't listen to Milos or anyone, he frequently held back the truth, so much so like most compulsive liars he lost track of what was real and what was not, in saying that he was a very nice guy who never harmed anyone other than himself. RIP Luke.

[ukjeff]

I have never met someone who would put fake tan on, site inject weak bodyparts like most would on contest day and take diuretics just to walk in a gym for a regular workout, just so gym rats could be blown away.

What about a guy who preps for three days to go to a pool party?

[Caro]

Luke destroyed himself with T3 many times infact every time  he looked good a week out and turned up flat smooth and small it was from his insistence on overusing the drug when he didn't have to.
Luke also took diuretics all the time, he was a very nice but totally insecure guy, I have never met someone who would put fake tan on, site inject weak bodyparts like most would on contest day and take diuretics just to walk in a gym for a regular workout, just so gym rats could be blown away. He had a sickness and it killed him, he wouldn't listen to Milos or anyone, he frequently held back the truth, so much so like most compulsive liars he lost track of what was real and what was not, in saying that he was a very nice guy who never harmed anyone other than himself. RIP Luke.

Honest, that is a humbling post.  I miss Luke.  He was such an affable guy.

In your post you point out that Luke  'wouldn't listen to Milos....'
I'm not sure where you're going with this.  I think Luke listened 'too much' to Milos.  He was totally seduced by  him.  In Luke's eyes, Milos could do no wrong -and herein lies the problem.

[ukjeff]

Honest, that is a humbling post.  I miss Luke.  He was such an affable guy.

In your post you point out that Luke  'wouldn't listen to Milos....'
I'm not sure where you're going with this.  I think Luke listened 'too much' to Milos.  He was totally seduced by  him.  In Luke's eyes, Milos could do no wrong -and herein lies the problem.

He went to Milos for advice Milos gave him advice and Luke decided if he took double what Milios advise he would get double the results.

I think thats the point hes making.

[ukjeff]

He went to Milos for advice Milos gave him advice and Luke decided if he took double what Milios advise he would get double the results.

I think thats the point hes making.

I fail to realise why people dont grasp that.
If he admitted to drug use hes finished.

They should really only deny when asked though because offering the denial when its not even requested just rubs people up the wrong way.

[Caro]

He went to Milos for advice Milos gave him advice and Luke decided if he took double what Milios advise he would get double the results.

I think thats the point hes making.

No, Luke openly acknowledged that he mixed up mcg ratios.  Luke wasn't known for his intellect, critical thinking and understanding of how insulin interacts.

[ukjeff]

No, Luke openly acknowledged that he mixed up mcg ratios.  Luke wasn't known for his intellect, critical thinking and understanding of how insulin interacts.

Yes, thats what hes getting at.

You may be right about Luke fucking up but thats not what I meant.
I was simply indicating what the other poster was getting at.

[Cleanest Natural]

Can't blame Milos. He knows his stuff

[Caro]

Yes, thats what hes getting at.

You may be right about Luke fucking up but thats not what I meant.
I was simply indicating what the other poster was getting at.

ok, point taken

[Caro]

Can't blame Milos. He knows his stuff

I wouldn't trust a mad scientist.

Yes, Milos was a forerunner in the sport re. Insulin.

In my opinion, i think he has damaged the sport.

[Cleanest Natural]

I wouldn't trust a mad scientist.

Yes, Milos was a forerunner in the sport re. Insulin.

In my opinion, i think he has damaged the sport.

not really..people need to take responsibility for their actions...he did not force anyone

[Caro]

not really..people need to take responsibility for their actions...he did not force anyone

He may not have forced anyone.  However, Milos is incredibly charismatic, persuasive and dogmatic.

He took Luke into his stable of athletes at the Koloseum. Luke spent many a night at Milos home, eating, drinking (non alcoholic) and laughing. 

Luke thought he had made a friend an 'unconditional friend' -HOW WRONG LUKE WAS ABOUT THE CONNIVING AND MANIPULATIVE MILOS!

[Cleanest Natural]

He may not have forced anyone.  However, Milos is incredibly charismatic, persuasive and dogmatic.

He took Luke into his stable of athletes at the Koloseum. Luke spent many a night at Milos home, eating, drinking (non alcoholic) and laughing. 

Luke thought he had made a friend an 'unconditional friend' -HOW WRONG LUKE WAS ABOUT THE CONNIVING AND MANIPULATIVE MILOS!

yawn..learn to take responsability. You should be an adult

[Caro]

yawn..learn to take responsability. You should be an adult

You're not understanding the premise.  I am not debating the issue of responsibility! 

I have been very clear and consistent in regards to the concept of character and Milos' modus operandi....

[whitewidow]

Milos did a number on chris Dim! But milos was not doing anything that diffrent then what other trainers/gurus were doing. Milos got alot of pros to start lifting lighter weights wich is smart. It does not take that much weight o look like a bodybuilder. I like milos's theory on doing a insane amount of reps on your last set.It is def better to lift a little bit lighter of weight then usuali but lift it using perfetc form then lifting heavier and using shitty form. look how Branch warren lifts weights! Pure garbage!

[Caro]

Milos did a number on chris Dim! But milos was not doing anything that diffrent then what other trainers/gurus were doing. Milos got alot of pros to start lifting lighter weights wich is smart. It does not take that much weight o look like a bodybuilder. I like milos's theory on doing a insane amount of reps on your last set.It is def better to lift a little bit lighter of weight then usuali but lift it using perfetc form then lifting heavier and using shitty form. look how Branch warren lifts weights! Pure garbage!

Yes, Milos promoted the use of the pink dumbbells.lol.

I do agree with his philosophy regarding weights and reps...but not about agree with the insulin protocols.

[Cleanest Natural]

You seem to have a grudge against him and it is clouding your judgement ... Pretty obvious

[bigmc]

Yes, Milos promoted the use of the pink dumbbells.lol.

I do agree with his philosophy regarding weights and reps...but not about agree with the insulin protocols.

im sure he is losing sleep over a second rate gimmick from bitch tits 15.org

[Caro]

im sure he is losing sleep over a second rate gimmick from bitch tits 15.org

wow, we have a trolling hater...you are not wanted in this thread...leave gimmick.

[Teutonic Knight]

I wouldn't trust a mad scientist.

Yes, Milos was a forerunner in the sport re. Insulin.

In my opinion, i think he has damaged the sport.

Bullshit Caro Lee, Insulin was in use by pro rugby league players before Milos arrival on the scene.
Just go away.

[honest]

I always found Milos to be completely opposite of how hes described, most of his advice was very conservative, he gets a bad wrap, I can honestly say he did so much for so many and for nothing, that was why most of the time he was broke. Fair enough he really pushed insulin use mainstream, but his protocols were use, other guys abuse. Milos was really sought out by guys who didn't have the very top genetics, the pros are full of these type of guys, they are battling their genetics with science, he cannot be held responsible for what happened, If a paitent is prescribed a drug by a doctor and exceeds his recommended dosage greatly is it the doctors fault or the patients, blood sucking lawyers have created a profit driven agenda that creates a legal argument todays society is full of people who want to blame others, truth is take away financial gain and most things in life especially illegal drug use all responsibility rests with the individual.

[Caro]

Bullshit Caro Lee, Insulin was in use by pro rugby league players before Milos arrival on the scene.
Just go away.

Hating troll.