2013 Olympia - Jay Cutler at eight weeks.

[Pet shop boys]

jay needs to come in huge

his only chance is to be the biggest guy on stage

especially if they put him next to ramil

best he can do is third imo

Nope, he won't  be the biggest guy on stage this year....don't want to say the judges are working for the better interest of the sport, but let's just say they will be looking for something else.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Disgusted]

Jay looks good! Conditioning and his back will be his only weakness. If he nails it like 2009 he'll win.

[njflex]

Jay looks good! Conditioning and his back will be his only weakness. If he nails it like 2009 he'll win.

x2 i've been thinking this all along .he looks very good right now.

[ESFitness]

I did, toddler diddler. The meaning of what you said (and what it implies--that 270lbs isn't large) is undeniable, whether it is what you intended to communicate or not.

270lbs 8 weeks out compared to *what we used to see*.

holy fuck, is this your first day?

[no one]

Jay looks good! Conditioning and his back will be his only weakness. If he nails it like 2009 he'll win.

gotta remember too all those pics of kai floating around are taken in a gym.

this is a shot taken of jay, cold, in his drs office.

lol @ everyone saying he 'small' .

[rooseveltdunn]

x2 i've been thinking this all along .he looks very good right now.

He won't , Kai and Phil have extremely developed backs that's what puts them above the competition for the most part. This is 2009 the compeition is better.

[syntaxmachine]

270lbs 8 weeks out compared to *what we used to see*.

Yes, that's no doubt what you intended to say. But it isn't what you said, nor implied--but that's ok.

[calfzilla]

Does he grow into shows?

[ESFitness]

Yes, that's no doubt what you intended to say. But it isn't what you said, nor implied--but that's ok. You either peddle drugs or pretend to; in neither instance do I expect or demand that you understand these sorts of nuances.

so you're telling me what I intended to say?

[whitewidow]

Jay cuttler is fucking HUGE in person. He dwarfs alot of guys that are the biggest guys at their gym just makes them look like nothing. Jay is bigger then Phil if you see them standing together. I think Phil has better seperation but size wise jay is a monster!

[Mawse]

I got a pic with him at his smallest (post bicep surgery ) and he was still huge, without the gut he's actually pretty aesthetic , with great shape. Hope he can bring it.

[DroppingPlates]

Jay looks good! Conditioning and his back will be his only weakness. If he nails it like 2009 he'll win.

Don't forget his quad imbalance & oilceps.

[Griffith]

Is coming in smaller, but with smaller gut and better conditioning an option at this level?

I hope so.

[littleguns]

Jay has definitely picked up some ground. If you compare him and Kai at NY Pro, Kai was smoking him and everyone else but of course things are bound to change.

[240 is Back]

Jay has trained for 8 of the last 24 months, give or take. 

Kai and Phil have been training all out for probably 20 of 24 months.

The level of muscle thickness WILL be different.  All of the die-hard Jay fans won't address any change to his physique that is seen by NOT training consistently for the past 2 years.  He took off last year's O for "business", which is cool, and in spring of this year was still barely scooting by on the muscle.  Sure, he is getting swollen fast, but in my humble opinion, he's still carrying less muscle - and the pics show it too.

You CANNOT train for 6-8 of 24 months and expect to have as much muscle as people who have trained 20 of 24 months.  (or whatever the numbers are - we can all admit Jay's barely trained up to this run 3 months back).

[FitnessFrenzy]

Jay has trained for 8 of the last 24 months, give or take. 

Kai and Phil have been training all out for probably 20 of 24 months.

The level of muscle thickness WILL be different.  All of the die-hard Jay fans won't address any change to his physique that is seen by NOT training consistently for the past 2 years.  He took off last year's O for "business", which is cool, and in spring of this year was still barely scooting by on the muscle.  Sure, he is getting swollen fast, but in my humble opinion, he's still carrying less muscle - and the pics show it too.

You CANNOT train for 6-8 of 24 months and expect to have as much muscle as people who have trained 20 of 24 months.  (or whatever the numbers are - we can all admit Jay's barely trained up to this run 3 months back).

I'm not sure I agree. Let's let the upcoming Olympia speak for itself. 

[Rajkapoor]

Jay has trained for 8 of the last 24 months, give or take. 

Kai and Phil have been training all out for probably 20 of 24 months.

The level of muscle thickness WILL be different.  All of the die-hard Jay fans won't address any change to his physique that is seen by NOT training consistently for the past 2 years.  He took off last year's O for "business", which is cool, and in spring of this year was still barely scooting by on the muscle.  Sure, he is getting swollen fast, but in my humble opinion, he's still carrying less muscle - and the pics show it too.

You CANNOT train for 6-8 of 24 months and expect to have as much muscle as people who have trained 20 of 24 months.  (or whatever the numbers are - we can all admit Jay's barely trained up to this run 3 months back).

Rested body most of the time produce better results than constantly trained one.muscle memory will bring him back where he left off and push even further in no time.most importantly he did not lost any of size and weight during rest period that makes me believe that this is pre planned come back.

[whitewidow]

Jay just cannot get the seperation in his biceps and other muscle groups like kai or phil can get. I think it is a black thing-no racism intended.

[Shockwave]

Jay has trained for 8 of the last 24 months, give or take. 

Kai and Phil have been training all out for probably 20 of 24 months.

The level of muscle thickness WILL be different.  All of the die-hard Jay fans won't address any change to his physique that is seen by NOT training consistently for the past 2 years.  He took off last year's O for "business", which is cool, and in spring of this year was still barely scooting by on the muscle.  Sure, he is getting swollen fast, but in my humble opinion, he's still carrying less muscle - and the pics show it too.

You CANNOT train for 6-8 of 24 months and expect to have as much muscle as people who have trained 20 of 24 months.  (or whatever the numbers are - we can all admit Jay's barely trained up to this run 3 months back).

do we know that hes only been training for 8-12 months? When was hia surgery? Its possible he throttled back but never stopped training... and ay those guys level, it doesnt tale them long to put it back on. Hwll, l9ok at levrone, dude shrunk down to an average gymrat 8n the offseason akr blew up 6 months out.

[240 is Back]

do we know that hes only been training for 8-12 months? When was hia surgery? Its possible he throttled back but never stopped training... and ay those guys level, it doesnt tale them long to put it back on. Hwll, l9ok at levrone, dude shrunk down to an average gymrat 8n the offseason akr blew up 6 months out.

I know guys don't need long to come back... but I have to think there's a REASON guys train more than 3 months of the year.  You CANNOT get better when you're not training.  At best, we'll see the last version of Jay.  That's at BEST.  Now, we'll see IMPROVED versions of Phil and Kai. 

We know jay has been small in most pics over the last 2 years - surgery, business, taking a break, etc.   My point is that even with muscle memory, he'll lose too much ground over the past 2 years - while the others are gaining ground.  He's trying to get back to 2011 shape.  Everyone else left that in the dust 2 years ago.  Not hating on jay - just wondering why BBers train at all for those 9 months each year if a dude just has to show up and train 3 months before a show.  Its not arnold's era anymore.

[Cleanest Natural]

I know guys don't need long to come back... but I have to think there's a REASON guys train more than 3 months of the year.  You CANNOT get better when you're not training.  At best, we'll see the last version of Jay.  That's at BEST.  Now, we'll see IMPROVED versions of Phil and Kai. 

We know jay has been small in most pics over the last 2 years - surgery, business, taking a break, etc.   My point is that even with muscle memory, he'll lose too much ground over the past 2 years - while the others are gaining ground.  He's trying to get back to 2011 shape.  Everyone else left that in the dust 2 years ago.  Not hating on jay - just wondering why BBers train at all for those 9 months each year if a dude just has to show up and train 3 months before a show.  Its not arnold's era anymore.

[Shockwave]

I know guys don't need long to come back... but I have to think there's a REASON guys train more than 3 months of the year.  You CANNOT get better when you're not training.  At best, we'll see the last version of Jay.  That's at BEST.  Now, we'll see IMPROVED versions of Phil and Kai. 

We know jay has been small in most pics over the last 2 years - surgery, business, taking a break, etc.   My point is that even with muscle memory, he'll lose too much ground over the past 2 years - while the others are gaining ground.  He's trying to get back to 2011 shape.  Everyone else left that in the dust 2 years ago.  Not hating on jay - just wondering why BBers train at all for those 9 months each year if a dude just has to show up and train 3 months before a show.  Its not arnold's era anymore.

how do you know he hasnt been training? How do y9u know exactly whats been going on behind closed doors? Or are you pulling a zimmerman again and pulling a radical conclusion from a couple of 2 year old pics?

I dont think hes going to win but just judging from his recent pics, youre way off base. And history has showj us that people that know what theyre doing can transform from an average150 lb skinny fat levrone into a shredded 250 lb behemoth in no time.

I think youre talking out of your ass agajn. But that said, Jay is old and has many miles on him, I think heol come in huge, not necessarily shredded in top condition, but with obvious flaws and injuries.

[yates fan]

its quite possible for jay to be in his best shape at the o.leverone used to do it with  8 weeks of training all the time.

[calfzilla]

Jay has trained for 8 of the last 24 months, give or take. 

Kai and Phil have been training all out for probably 20 of 24 months.

The level of muscle thickness WILL be different.  All of the die-hard Jay fans won't address any change to his physique that is seen by NOT training consistently for the past 2 years.  He took off last year's O for "business", which is cool, and in spring of this year was still barely scooting by on the muscle.  Sure, he is getting swollen fast, but in my humble opinion, he's still carrying less muscle - and the pics show it too.

You CANNOT train for 6-8 of 24 months and expect to have as much muscle as people who have trained 20 of 24 months.  (or whatever the numbers are - we can all admit Jay's barely trained up to this run 3 months back).

I know you are knowledgeable about men in thongs but I must disagree with you.

1) the level of muscle memory at the pro level especially is uncanny, 8 months is plenty of time.

2) Bodybuilding drugs are a big help (see#1)

3) how do you know he's only been training 8 months?  Like someone else said he probably has been training but just kicked it in high gear the last 8 months.

4) Arnold, I believe, did not train year round and look how great he did. I just don't think year round HARD training is necessary at the elite pro level.

By the thong of Nasser, Jay will win!

[hipolito mejia]

Jay has trained for 8 of the last 24 months, give or take. 

Kai and Phil have been training all out for probably 20 of 24 months.

The level of muscle thickness WILL be different.  All of the die-hard Jay fans won't address any change to his physique that is seen by NOT training consistently for the past 2 years.  He took off last year's O for "business", which is cool, and in spring of this year was still barely scooting by on the muscle.  Sure, he is getting swollen fast, but in my humble opinion, he's still carrying less muscle - and the pics show it too.

You CANNOT train for 6-8 of 24 months and expect to have as much muscle as people who have trained 20 of 24 months.  (or whatever the numbers are - we can all admit Jay's barely trained up to this run 3 months back).

I hope you're joking.  He may not be juicing for the last 24 months but he has been training for more than 8 months that's for sure ..........Please don't underestimate the power of juice   

Like the great Lee Haney once told me " yo can workout/train forever" ....... preparing for a particular show, is another story.