Is this build possible natty?......

[ESFitness]

depends on how big he is I guess.. alone, in a picture, the guy could look 195, but in person he could be 5'7" 160lbs and look great.

I've known guys who looked like walking specimens. Pure mesomorphs. who didn't take anything (other than one who took prescribed t4 ) and weighed 160/170lbs, by themselves and next to 'regular' guys, they looked like they were statues... but next to a guy who's 6' 230... hell, even 5'10" 195, they looked smaaaaaaL.

[anabolichalo]

"NOT A SNOWBALL CHANCE IN HELL"--Ronnie Coleman

[O.Z.]

So what I'm hearing is that since you guys look like absolute crap without drugs that any muscular guy has to be a user. There is no such thing as some one with an athletic muscular body. I bet you tell your Mom the reason you're were third string on the high school football team was because everyone was juicing but you. The reason you couldn't run a decent time in the local 5K is because everyone is on EPO.

by the look at Muscle&Performance cover he is much more than that, unless shopped. He look smaller in that clip.

[no one]

In the video at the Arnold, dude is a runt. Sure he is 6 feet tall but he is pencil thin.     If you think you need drugs for that look just give up even going to the gym unless you're running 3 grams a week.

lol

so you look like that/ better then i take it? no. course you dont. and never did. so its beyond me how you can claim what you are claiming.

[arce1988]

 As natural as a rubber dildo.

[Parker]

Hahaha. Exactly.    Just lame lazy fuck's who make excuses for their failures and credit "drugs" with anyone else's success, no matter how minor.  The dude in question is a scrawny runt in the bodybuilding world.  Nice physique and totally obtainable drug free. 

It's obtainable drug free. But is he drug free is the question. In a day and age where everyone is willing to cut corners/compromise their beliefs, a person who could achieve something natty, might want to go the opposite route for cash and magazine covers.

[no one]

imo this is a great look achievable with very moderate amounts of gear once his foundation has been built. your not going to walk into a gym and use what hes using and look that good. but once you have the tissue you can use what hes using and achieve the same 'kind' of look i say same 'kind' as your going to be limitied by your genetics for muscle shape and structure which this guy is blessed with.

imo he can manitain this on low dose gh, low dose test and some var but there no way he built it 'clean'

anyone thinking this guy is on anything close to 2-3 g cycles is on bad fucking glue.

[Red29]

imo this is a great look achievable with very moderate amounts of gear once his foundation has been built. your not going to walk into a gym and use what hes using and look that good. but once you have the tissue you can use what hes using and achieve the same 'kind' of look i say same 'kind' as your going to be limitied by your genetics for muscle shape and structure which this guy is blessed with.

imo he can manitain this on low dose gh, low dose test and some var but there no way he built it 'clean'

anyone thinking this guy is on anything close to 2-3 g cycles is on bad fucking glue.

yeah like i said if he was using GH his aas use wouldnt need to be that much. low test with a bit of tren and drost and maybe some var closer to photoshoots. if no gh then his use would be higher though.

[Big Chiro Flex]

yeah like i said if he was using GH his aas use wouldnt need to be that much. low test with a bit of tren and drost and maybe some var closer to photoshoots. if no gh then his use would be higher though.

What is "drost"?

[BIG ACH]

I'm gonna get on the boat claiming that I BELIEVE this can be achieved naturally!

 

[#1 Klaus fan]

Smaller than Mr Olympia so could be natural.

[bbrower]

What is "drost"?

Masteron

[Heywood]

I would say yes, but he's a fitness model, so probably on some low dose test and anavar.

That is the correct answer, IMO.

Is it possible?  Yes, given that you are devoting a great deal of very serious time, energy and determination to training and eating for years.

Or you can take a few pills......and that's what we have here, IMO.

[Big Chiro Flex]

Masteron

Thanks 

[Red29]

Thanks 

yeah drostanolone= drost=mast=masteron

[cephissus]

lol

so you look like that/ better then i take it? no. course you dont. and never did. so its beyond me how you can claim what you are claiming.

x2, post pics of you, or anyone you have ever known, who beat this guy and are "certified natural", or GTFO tommywishfulthinkingbone

[tommywishbone]

lol

so you look like that/ better then i take it? no. course you dont. and never did. so its beyond me how you can claim what you are claiming.

  LOL!    I still dwarf that brine shrimp and always will. I was bigger than that dork when I was in High School.

[Kwon_2]

In the video at the Arnold, dude is a runt. Sure he is 6 feet tall but he is pencil thin.     If you think you need drugs for that look just give up even going to the gym unless you're running 3 grams a week.

6'3", which definately isn't Johnny Falcon-height, but still much better height than many bb:ers

[Tedim]

I worked out 2 x day x 6 days for a couple of years..with Army powerlifting champ who trained me......and although I think I looked great, wide chest...big arms wide back solid traps and shoulders......I looked BIG at 12% fat OR cut with muscle mass at sub 10%...BUT never both and never like that.

[cephissus]

and for those who think its possible natty but they dont look like that themselves...haha...what do you think why it didnt work for you?

do you think youve missed to many aanabolic windows?

such small framed guys with similiar mass, oh, ive came across them, they officialy all naturals, but behind closed doors, when they ask ppl for a gear hookup, not so much natty anymore.

i mean, by all means, this is an ideal pussy pulling physique, feel free to go for it naturaly if you think its possible, haha, good "luck".

so yeah, wheres the pics, lifetime natty, standing there semi relaxed in same pose, same conditioning.

im all eyes and ears

many have come close, only to "spill over" for a couple decades straight

[njflex]

and for those who think its possible natty but they dont look like that themselves...haha...what do you think why it didnt work for you?

do you think youve missed to many aanabolic windows?

such small framed guys with similiar mass, oh, ive came across them, they officialy all naturals, but behind closed doors, when they ask ppl for a gear hookup, not so much natty anymore.

i mean, by all means, this is an ideal pussy pulling physique, feel free to go for it naturaly if you think its possible, haha, good "luck".

so yeah, wheres the pics, lifetime natty, standing there semi relaxed in same pose, same conditioning.

im all eyes and ears

some guys with naturally genetic good muscle shape and a good to decent diet ,good metabolism could pull it off close but no cigar to this,difference is most will be shorter and 145/175 at say 5'5/5'7 or too lanky totally natural if 5'10 and over.,meaning never took nada.guy has great build.

[rooseveltdunn]

and for those who think its possible natty but they dont look like that themselves...haha...what do you think why it didnt work for you?

do you think youve missed to many aanabolic windows?

such small framed guys with similiar mass, oh, ive came across them, they officialy all naturals, but behind closed doors, when they ask ppl for a gear hookup, not so much natty anymore.

i mean, by all means, this is an ideal pussy pulling physique, feel free to go for it naturaly if you think its possible, haha, good "luck".

so yeah, wheres the pics, lifetime natty, standing there semi relaxed in same pose, same conditioning.

im all eyes and ears

just because you could not do it drug free it does not mean others can't.

[Red29]

just because you could not do it drug free it does not mean others can't.

in theory. in reality not so much

[rooseveltdunn]

oh, it dawned on me, this is too daft to even talk about, will never bother again to reply to any such threads, anyone up to believe what they want.

i dont even care what or if the guy took anything.

I am actually a skeptic when it comes to BB physiques and I know Matus isn't natty ( i knew that even a year ago) however based on this pic his physique is not that montrous or super uber defined, it is achievable. You often mention that you could not achieve such things naturally and that's fine, but just because you could not get to that level it does not mean others can't get there there are black guys in jail with better bodies than that.

[stavios]

Someone insists (wont name) that this can be achieved naturally....my position is impossible without AAS use....

so fucking hard to say with those fucking photoshoot man...

PLUS, the head look like it's been shrunken down with photoshop