Should bodybuilders with criminal records allowed to be a pro?

[Caro]

We all know about the Victor Martinez debacle?  I will not go there.

At the end of the day, i believe people should be given opportunities to demonstrate they have changed. But that is not the point of this discussion. I am trying to make an argument re. 'organisational integrity'

For example, what if a Pro was found guilty of murder or a perverted sexual crime -should they be allowed to compete once they have done time?

Please discuss.

[Vince B]

Maybe the real Mr Olympia is a resident in a federal prison somewhere?

Organizations have to make rules about conduct. The trouble is the IFBB has fabulous rules, more or less, but many are never enforced.

[OTHstrong]

hey caro you big bitch your 15 minutes are up and you are out of here, I see you are avoiding the other thread, the one where you are being owned, an ownage of v-board proportion. 

[Caro]

Rules and regulations are the corner stones of any organisation.

A modern society would descend into ultimate anarchy if it were not for laws of governance.

[booty]

Caro what do you think about the other thread asking members to vote on if you stay or go? 

[Caro]

Organisations must move with times. 

As is the case with many government and private enterprise positions, in order to successfully qualify for that position, one must have  a clean criminal records history.

Can't be a bad thing?

Discuss.

[Big Chiro Flex]

Bah! Doom disapproves!

Lol wtf?!?! Never thought I'd see this on stage, this is nuts

[ESFitness]

We all know about the Victor Martinez debacle?  I will not go there.

At the end of the day, i believe people should be given opportunities to demonstrate they have changed. But that is not the point of this discussion. I am trying to make an argument re. 'organisational integrity'

For example, what if a Pro was found guilty of murder or a perverted sexual crime -should they be allowed to compete once they have done time?

Please discuss.

is there another kind?

if a pro was found guilty of a sex crime, I think the last thing he should be worrying about is his status in the IFBB.

Pedophile's a pedophile, right Caro? Did you graduate STOP class yet?

[Coach is Back!]

Lol wtf?!?! Never thought I'd see this on stage, this is nuts

Check the line up, second from the right. Torn chest, torn triceps, ankle monitor

[mr.turbo]

maybe better to follow Italys lead ala Berlusconi and exclude only those who are actually incarcerated.  

hi hank!  

[Caro]

There are many levels of criminality.

That being said, an organisation must have a standard -at what point should an organisation like the IFBB say to a convicted felon your crime falls into a category that is unacceptable?

Discuss.

[ukjeff]

let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

[Teutonic Knight]

We have a big problem in Australia. The guy handing out pro cards has a criminal record. What do you suggest then?

You a obviously so jealous of Paul Graham & his achievements, but in 1980 U accepted his plastic trophy 
recycled it into Chris Dickerson Mr.Olympia prize 

[Caro]

As is the case with any progressive organisation, 'change' is an inevitability.

Many fear change and that is understandable.  Regardless, organisations like the IFBB should embrace change on every level. Hence, a review of the current 'rules of governance' !?!?

Discuss.

[Teutonic Knight]

Vince I am in charge of Pro cards and I do not have a criminal record.

Bravo Tony, any poker runs in the near future  

[Caro]

Look, it's a complex issue, but one that should not be shied away from.

I remember the strong views held by many here when Victor got into his terrible messes with the law.

Discuss.

[Teutonic Knight]

Maybe the real Mr Olympia is a resident in a federal prison somewhere?

Organizations have to make rules about conduct. The trouble is the IFBB has fabulous rules, more or less, but many are never enforced.

Hey Nursing Home candidate, what was the name of yours BB organization from eighties ?
"United" something    & was born in yours place
& lasted how many years again 2  

[booty]

Look, it's a complex issue, but one that should not be shied away from.

I remember the strong views held by many here when Victor got into his terrible messes with the law.

Discuss.

I don't think these kind of discussions will bring the pros back.

[Teutonic Knight]

Tony, you are one of the good guys. Was referring to the guy in Sydney who is mates with Arnold.

I was at a contest there when he handed out Luke Wood's pro card.

Oh how humiliating for Vince attending Paul Grahams Ifbb contest 

[Big Chiro Flex]

Check the line up, second from the right. Torn chest, torn triceps, ankle monitor

Lol what a mess!

You're lookin good there though coach.

[HockeyFightFan]

Look, it's a complex issue, but one that should not be shied away from.

I remember the strong views held by many here when Victor got into his terrible messes with the law.

Discuss.

Another FatAlex23 gimmick....so fucking boring and unoriginal.   

[tommywishbone]

It's 2013 in America- who doesn't have a felony record?

[HockeyFightFan]

I don't think these kind of discussions will bring the pros back.

And not one fuck was given over what you think......

[cswol]

its actually discrimination to hire someone based on their past, massachusets is one of the only states that doesnt ask a person if they have been convicted of a crime on job applications..........ba rring convicted criminals from employment in usa is just  a way to bar them from the system, and a way to get them to seek out illegal means of making money so they can be thrown back in jail or prison.

[bigmc]

its actually discrimination to hire someone based on their past, massachusets is one of the only states that doesnt ask a person if they have been convicted of a crime on job applications..........ba rring convicted criminals from employment in usa is just  a way to bar them from the system, and a way to get them to seek out illegal means of making money so they can be thrown back in jail or prison.

so are you saying schools shouldnt be able to check if some one is a child molester