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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #75 on: August 14, 2013, 05:22:05 AM »
Jesus Christ.
Its what Elvis looked like faciallly before he popped, bloated.
Instant indication of serious liver/kidney problems.

He doesnt have long.

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #76 on: August 14, 2013, 05:35:20 AM »



He's finally realizing that he's not immortal.  But it might be too late.  It is pretty sad to hear him praying for a kidney.....would be cruel for the guy donating it to say in October...SIKE, I was just messing around.

It does appear that he's using synthol again along at this point, I really can't be sure.  I warned him so many times....on forums, on Off Topic Radio, etc.  He was just too far caught up in the bodybuilding douchebaggery.
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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #77 on: August 14, 2013, 05:46:33 AM »
He is mentally ill.  Plain and simple.  He needs to get clear of that before getting a donor kidney or he will just destroy it. 

There is no other possible explanation for his continued abuse of SEO.  How can anyone of right mind leave dialysis and then go home and jam a few dozen ml of oil into themselves?  And then think the result is brag worthy?  It's just incredible the amount of denial.

Derek, if you read these threads, get off of EVERYTHING.  You will never regain the physique you had.  It's dead and gone.  The oil is killing you and looks ridiculous.  You can build a new future for yourself.  One that doesn't require you to look big.  Find another way to define yourself.

Sadly, I predict that he'll be dead before any transplant occurs. 

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #78 on: August 14, 2013, 05:57:16 AM »
He is mentally ill.  Plain and simple.  He needs to get clear of that before getting a donor kidney or he will just destroy it. 

There is no other possible explanation for his continued abuse of SEO.  How can anyone of right mind leave dialysis and then go home and jam a few dozen ml of oil into themselves?  And then think the result is brag worthy?  It's just incredible the amount of denial.

Derek, if you read these threads, get off of EVERYTHING.  You will never regain the physique you had.  It's dead and gone.  The oil is killing you and looks ridiculous.  You can build a new future for yourself.  One that doesn't require you to look big.  Find another way to define yourself.

Sadly, I predict that he'll be dead before any transplant occurs. 



Derek could honestly be the poster child of why not to use steroids and SEO.

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #79 on: August 14, 2013, 06:16:04 AM »
Err, is anybody actually sure the oil has any particular bad effect on his body, or are they just basically predicting doom - because they totally disagree with putting oil in, based on mostly aesthetic reasons or the possibility of infection (that doesn't seem to have occurred)?

I mean, there are quite a few of these synthol specimens and they don't appear to get much comeuppance.

I know most of them have functioning kidney, though.

I agree, I feel Derek is mentally ill.

Oil is Derek's medication.  All of the people around Derek will be impressed with how Derek can maintain his physique, whilst off and Derek will be feeding on that.  It is probably keeping him positive.  People who don't want to live, and whom are sick, don't live.   

I do doubt Derek is using steroids.  I think if he were, he wouldn't need quite so much oil and it's clearly increased.

I don't really think the cold harsh realities of being nothing, with no particular skills, will gel well with being so sick that you need a kidney.  I think it's necessary. 





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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #80 on: August 14, 2013, 06:48:45 AM »
Err, is anybody actually sure the oil has any particular bad effect on his body, or are they just basically predicting doom - because they totally disagree with putting oil in, based on mostly aesthetic reasons or the possibility of infection (that doesn't seem to have occurred)?

I mean, there are quite a few of these synthol specimens and they don't appear to get much comeuppance.

I know most of them have functioning kidney, though.

I agree, I feel Derek is mentally ill.

Oil is Derek's medication.  All of the people around Derek will be impressed with how Derek can maintain his physique, whilst off and Derek will be feeding on that.  It is probably keeping him positive.  People who don't want to live, and whom are sick, don't live.   

I do doubt Derek is using steroids.  I think if he were, he wouldn't need quite so much oil and it's clearly increased.

I don't really think the cold harsh realities of being nothing, with no particular skills, will gel well with being so sick that you need a kidney.  I think it's necessary. 


I can't reference any studies showing that is unhealthy since none exist, but common sense dictates the pumping 50cc of oil intramuscular on a regular basis isn't good for you.  I am not familiar with his protocol, but lets assume that he is doing 3cc in each biceps head, all three triceps, three delts, traps, and calves then we are talking a lot of oil.  And that is done at regular intervals.  The human anatomy just wasn't designed to deal with that amount of oil in the body via that delivery method. 

If you already have a preexisting condition (Derek has had heart attacks, hypertension, and kidney failure) it is just stupid. 

I have no problem with people using it.  I couldn't care less, really.  I wouldn't choose it for myself, but that's me.  It's just sad to watch this guy do this to himself all while smiling and posting photos of the wreckage. 

And to note, no one that knows Derek will be impressed by his current physique.  He looks like he is made of plastic and is melting. 

I agree that he LOOKS like he is off the gear, but let's be honest, it could just be his dying body refusing to cooperate.  If he is still jamming all that SEO, he is likely still using AAS as well.

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #81 on: August 14, 2013, 07:01:26 AM »
And to note, no one that knows Derek will be impressed by his current physique.  He looks like he is made of plastic and is melting. 

I agree that he LOOKS like he is off the gear, but let's be honest, it could just be his dying body refusing to cooperate.  If he is still jamming all that SEO, he is likely still using AAS as well.

I'm not sure if impressed would be the right word, but like it or not, these synthol clowns fool more than genuine lifters would like to admit.  I suppose the "impressed" is the notion that he is sick and maintaining size.  It's likely regular people have not studied his change in aesthetic, too much.

All of us have experienced the average person's ignorance.  I said to someone recently that I (a lifetime natural) was about to diet down from 230ish and he's like "why? aren't you like pure muscle?". 

My double chin quivered with amusement.

I still maintain that I do not believe he is using AAS.  I think he's just pumping that oil in to overcompensate for it.   He has steadily declined to looking like absolute shit, lately and I accredit that to shrinking down to natural (probably no natural base, either) and the necessary steps he has taken to masking this. 

But we'll never know, so let's just go with glass half full, half empty and agree to disagree :)


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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #82 on: August 14, 2013, 07:33:20 AM »
Bottom line - specifically what damage is done to
1) Kidneys
2) Heart/circulatory
3) Brain
From the use of oil and/or test?

And, which (if any) is Derek using?  OR, is he just holding all that lumpy mass from kidneys not working?

I wish the guy the best with recovery, it's a seriously scary medical condition.

I'll take a shot at this...

Heart/Circulatory/Kidneys:

The use of certain steroids can lead to high blood pressure. The postulation behind this is that many steroids like that of Testosterone have a high tendency to convert to Estrogen. As a result, you have chronic increases in estrogen, which leads to sodium retention by your kidneys, which furthermore causes fluid retention (water is attracted to sodium). As a result of both sodium & fluid retention, your blood pressure increases as you have a fluid surplus (you're not necessarily hypervolemic).

Proof of this can be found in these studies:

http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/early/2011/03/11/ajpregu.00020.2011

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16965722

Now, how does high blood pressure effect the heart, brain and kidneys?

The straight forward answer is that with increased blood pressure, it becomes exponentially difficult for the heart to pump out blood at its normal pace. As a result, many patient develop what's called Left Ventricular Hypertrophy, which is when the heart muscles found the left lower portion of your heart (Left ventricle) increase in size. This leads to an increase in the size of the heart's muscle, but a decrease in the size of the left ventricle's chamber where blood is normally found prior to pumping out through the aorta to the rest of your body. Prolonged left ventricular hypertrophy can lead to heart failure. So, increased BP leads to Left ventricular Hypertrophy, which leads to heart failure.

How does elevated BP effect the brain (I will mention one simple way that also happens to be a dramatic one)?

Elevated Blood Pressure causes blood to be forced out of your heart and through your circulatory system at an elevated rate which places much stress on your arterial and venous circulation. Many times, we have plaque that has formed on various parts of your circulatory system (many times in the limbs). If the Blood Pressure is high enough and the force placed on those small pieces of plaque along the way is strong enough, then the plaque will often times become displaced and that little floating piece of plaque (or emboli), now can travel up to your brain, where it can become stuck within one of the blood vessels of the brain, causing an occlusion, which then leads to a STROKE.

Bringing it back to the heart for a second... If and when the emboli doesn't get to the brain, but instead gets to the heart and causes an occlusion in the coronary arteries, that is when you will potentially have what is known as a myocardial infarct (or heart attack).

Lastly, how does it affect the kidneys?

Well, considering that steroids are known to cause elevated blood pressure, now you can rationally see that added stress on the blood vessels within the kidneys can cause chronic stress on the kidneys, which makes them work harder and over time leads to renal failure.

As a matter of fact, elevated blood pressure is one of the leading causes of both Kidney Failure and End Stage Renal Disease.

Proof of that can be found here: United States Renal Data System. USRDS 2007 Annual Data Report. Bethesda, MD: National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, National Institutes of Health, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services; 2007.

Let me know if you want me to expand on any of this 240. Except for the references used, everything else was off the top of my head..

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P.S. I wanted to show one way in which steroids can compromise the heart, brain and kidneys by way of elevated Blood Pressure, but there are also other studies that suggest that steroid use increases cholesterol levels. Increased cholesterol can lead to elevated blood pressure. Increased cholesterol can also lead to plaque formation throughout the body, which can subsequently lead to strokes and heart attacks. Increased cholesterol can also lead to other problems with the liver, but you get the idea.

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #83 on: August 14, 2013, 07:40:03 AM »
I'll take a shot at this...

Heart/Circulatory/Kidneys:

The use of certain steroids can lead to high blood pressure. The postulation behind this is that many steroids like that of Testosterone have a high tendency to convert to Estrogen. As a result, you have chronic increases in estrogen, which leads to sodium retention by your kidneys, which furthermore causes fluid retention (water is attracted to sodium). As a result of both sodium & fluid retention, your blood pressure increases as you have a fluid surplus (you're not necessarily hypervolemic).

Proof of this can be found in these studies:

http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/early/2011/03/11/ajpregu.00020.2011

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16965722

Now, how does high blood pressure effect the heart, brain and kidneys?

The straight forward answer is that with increased blood pressure, it becomes exponentially difficult for the heart to pump out blood at its normal pace. As a result, many patient develop what's called Left Ventricular Hypertrophy, which is when the heart muscles found the left lower portion of your heart (Left ventricle) increase in size. This leads to an increase in the size of the heart's muscle, but a decrease in the size of the left ventricle's chamber where blood is normally found prior to pumping out through the aorta to the rest of your body. Prolonged left ventricular hypertrophy can lead to heart failure. So, increased BP leads to Left ventricular Hypertrophy, which leads to heart failure.

How does elevated BP effect the brain (I will mention one simple way that also happens to be a dramatic one)?

Elevated Blood Pressure causes blood to be forced out of your heart and through your circulatory system at an elevated rate which places much stress on your arterial and venous circulation. Many times, we have plaque that has formed on various parts of your circulatory system (many times in the limbs). If the Blood Pressure is high enough and the force placed on those small pieces of plaque along the way is strong enough, then the plaque will often times become displaced and that little floating piece of plaque (or emboli), now can travel up to your brain, where it can become stuck within one of the blood vessels of the brain, causing an occlusion, which then leads to a STROKE.

Bringing it back to the heart for a second... If and when the emboli doesn't get to the brain, but instead gets to the heart and causes an occlusion in the coronary arteries, that is when you will potentially have what is known as a myocardial infarct (or heart attack).

Lastly, how does it affect the kidneys?

Well, considering that steroids are known to cause elevated blood pressure, now you can rationally see that added stress on the blood vessels within the kidneys can cause chronic stress on the kidneys, which makes them work harder and over time leads to renal failure.

As a matter of fact, elevated blood pressure is one of the leading causes of both Kidney Failure and End Stage Renal Disease.

Proof of that can be found here: United States Renal Data System. USRDS 2007 Annual Data Report. Bethesda, MD: National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, National Institutes of Health, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services; 2007.

Let me know if you want me to expand on any of this 240. Except for the references used, everything else was off the top of my head..

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Excellent post bro.

I'm still curious what the effects of the actual oil are (not the steroids in the oil.) Eventually your spleen will have to filter your blood, and your kidneys will aid in the clearing process...

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #84 on: August 14, 2013, 07:46:01 AM »
Excellent post bro.

I'm still curious what the effects of the actual oil are (not the steroids in the oil.) Eventually your spleen will have to filter your blood, and your kidneys will aid in the clearing process...

While I think the minimal amount of oil will get absorbed, what I can certainly postulate on is the actual use of Synthol.

You inject large amounts of oil into the body and you have a high potential of forming an oil embolism, especially if you accidentally inject the oil into your circulatory system. Just like the plaque form by way of cholesterol, this small oil emboli can lead to occlusions in the heart, lungs (just like pulmonary embolism) and possibly brain. I am NOT completely sure of the end result here, only because studies are severely anemic when it comes to oil embolisms. My best guess is that it would behave similar to fat emboli as seen with bone fractures, but I am not 100% sure and can't back it up with studies.

Milos has a little scare once that showed us the risks of injecting oil into the body.

Here is a study on oil embolism causing respiratory distress:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3205107/

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #85 on: August 14, 2013, 07:48:08 AM »
Atleast he is still lifting, he keeps coming back takes dedication, can't knock him for that!

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #86 on: August 14, 2013, 07:53:28 AM »


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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #87 on: August 14, 2013, 07:55:52 AM »


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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #88 on: August 14, 2013, 07:56:12 AM »
In order to make him invisible, he needs much more ink.

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #89 on: August 14, 2013, 07:56:26 AM »
This fella should join the cartels in Mexico just by his appearance.
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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #90 on: August 14, 2013, 07:58:13 AM »
Atleast he is still lifting, he keeps coming back takes dedication, can't knock him for that!
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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #91 on: August 14, 2013, 08:18:42 AM »
I truly wish for him to die...
Or, if he doesn't die, for me to see him in public so I can beat on him...

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #92 on: August 14, 2013, 08:19:45 AM »
I truly wish for him to die...
Or, if he doesn't die, for me to see him in public so I can beat on him...

No no no, don't say that...

His fate is already dreadful enough.

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #93 on: August 14, 2013, 08:23:33 AM »
guy is a total cu nt

he will get back on the gear when he gets the new kidney

they should refuse to do the transplant till he stops shooting that oil in his body fucking clown
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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #94 on: August 14, 2013, 08:41:02 AM »
Those tats are so random. No symmetry. No direction. No accentuation of (what used to be) muscle tissue.


He just has anything tatted anywhere regardless. His whole body is like a sleeve.


Why?

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #95 on: August 14, 2013, 08:51:14 AM »
Those tats are so random. No symmetry. No direction. No accentuation of (what used to be) muscle tissue.


He just has anything tatted anywhere regardless. His whole body is like a sleeve.


Why?

is it true tatoos can really make you appear bigger enhance your physique? bigmc what you think? know okami's got some ink too but I have heard this quite a bit and more and more guys are doing it.
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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #96 on: August 14, 2013, 08:55:44 AM »
Check this loser out, more oil and his face so bloated his kidneys must be near gone.

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #97 on: August 14, 2013, 09:09:23 AM »
Someone accused derek of getting a tattoo sleeve to hide the marks that were appearing on his forearms.

Maybe there are more spots/dots/marks appearing on his body.  Might explain why the tatt arm sleeve actually went down over the back of his hand as well?


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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #98 on: August 14, 2013, 09:17:00 AM »
he can not draw attention with his muscles so he's getting those tatts, you take the attention from the public away and he's got nothing to live for anymore, pure vanity, probably the case in most bodybuilders

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Re: Derek Anthony Still At It
« Reply #99 on: August 14, 2013, 09:20:45 AM »
I'm no nephrologist and have no medical training, but what the fuck is that? Is he even allowed to be working out if he's on a kidney transplant list? Not a regular person I mean, I'm talking about a huge druggy with oil coursing through his veins. Is that allowed?

What hospital is he staying at? I think someone needs to report this. Seriously. He should NOT be getting a kidney transplant. Let the fucker go in for dialysis. He'll have plenty of time to take selfies when he's got tubes sticking out of him. He does not deserve another lease at life. Absolutely sickening!!!