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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2013, 11:47:47 AM »
Big Shot Bob Horry.   7 titles.   Nuff said.

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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2013, 11:50:05 AM »
What about Meadowlark Lemon? The Globetrotters were like 10,000-0.

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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2013, 12:02:19 PM »

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Re: Magic fires back at James
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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2013, 12:14:15 PM »
Lebron will probably be better than just about all of them, when all is said and done.

Just wait til he's 33-35, and gets on the GH like the rest of the top pro atheltes that get BETTER at 35.  Look at Kobe.  better at 35 than 25 lol.

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« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2013, 01:22:22 PM »
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What about Meadowlark Lemon? The Globetrotters were like 10,000-0.
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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2013, 01:23:03 PM »
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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2013, 02:21:51 PM »
As long as Jordan is number one.  :)

 ;D I was going to say that but then you still get guys saying things like: he got all the calls, he had Scotty Pippen etc...

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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2013, 03:08:19 PM »
I hate that everyone just concedes that Jordan is the greatest of all time.  

When Jordan came into the league the NBA had just signed a huge tv deal.  Prior to that, you listened to the games on the radio and if you were lucky you could watch the Finals on tape delay.  In the 80's and 90's the NBA cranked out biography/highlight videos of him almost every year.  The game had become hugely popular (largely because of the Magic/Bird rivalry) and the marketing of the game was exploding.  Companies like Nike and Gatorade pushed Jordan so hard you couldn't get away from the guy.  

If guys like Bill Russell and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar had the same level of exposure that Jordan had, the discussion would be very different.  I'm not trying to take anything away from Jordan because he was as good as his hype.  I'm just not convinced that he should be the undisputed greatest of all time.  

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 3 time NCAA champion, 6 time NBA MVP, 6 time NBA Champion, NBA all-time leading scorer.

Bill Russell - 2 time NCAA champion, 5 time NBA MVP, 11 time NBA Champion, 22.5 rebounds per game.

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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2013, 03:21:53 PM »
I will say this; look at the competition Jordan had. Played against real good players. Just look at the Dream Team and compare to Team USA. 

But this stuff can be debated all day long.

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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2013, 04:37:19 PM »
Jordan played against great players but not great teams.  He didn't start winning chips until the Showtime Lakers, Celtics and Badboy Pistons got old and had one foot out of the league.  It's all splitting hairs though.  The top tier of the NBA were all in God mode when they played.  It's too bad Shaq was an unmotivated fat fuck because he could have been the greatest of them all.

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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2013, 05:36:59 PM »
I will say this; look at the competition Jordan had. Played against real good players. Just look at the Dream Team and compare to Team USA. 

But this stuff can be debated all day long.

A prime Jordan today would average 50 per game with today's rules.

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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2013, 05:50:16 PM »
I hate that everyone just concedes that Jordan is the greatest of all time.  

When Jordan came into the league the NBA had just signed a huge tv deal.  Prior to that, you listened to the games on the radio and if you were lucky you could watch the Finals on tape delay.  In the 80's and 90's the NBA cranked out biography/highlight videos of him almost every year.  The game had become hugely popular (largely because of the Magic/Bird rivalry) and the marketing of the game was exploding.  Companies like Nike and Gatorade pushed Jordan so hard you couldn't get away from the guy.  

If guys like Bill Russell and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar had the same level of exposure that Jordan had, the discussion would be very different.  I'm not trying to take anything away from Jordan because he was as good as his hype.  I'm just not convinced that he should be the undisputed greatest of all time.  

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 3 time NCAA champion, 6 time NBA MVP, 6 time NBA Champion, NBA all-time leading scorer.

Bill Russell - 2 time NCAA champion, 5 time NBA MVP, 11 time NBA Champion, 22.5 rebounds per game.

I have said as much before. It's just like any icon, had the goods, right place, right time

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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2013, 05:54:03 PM »
Lebron will probably be better than just about all of them, when all is said and done.

Just wait til he's 33-35, and gets on the GH like the rest of the top pro atheltes that get BETTER at 35.  Look at Kobe.  better at 35 than 25 lol.

There all already on GH...Chris Paul basically outed everyone for using...

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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2013, 05:57:07 PM »
There all already on GH...Chris Paul basically outed everyone for using...
where?

source?

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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2013, 09:58:33 AM »
There all already on GH...Chris Paul basically outed everyone for using...

details on the chris paul outing?   dwayne wade's side of face does grow annually.

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Re: Magic fires back at James
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2013, 10:11:33 AM »
magic still got the aids ?