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Lawyer: "Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories"
« on: August 24, 2013, 05:22:21 AM »
It's almost like Zimmerman is rubbing it in at this point  :-\


The attorney who helped murder defendant George Zimmerman win a controversial acquittal last month was frustrated to learn his client toured a gun factory on Thursday.

According to TMZ, the former neighborhood crime watchman visited Kel-Tec firearms, the company that manufactured the semi-automatic handgun Zimmerman used in the fatal confrontation with Trayvon Martin.

“We certainly would not have advised him to go to the factory that made the gun that he used to shoot Trayvon Martin through the heart,” Shawn Vincent, a spokesman for attorney Mark O’Mara, told Yahoo News. “That was not part of our public relations plan.”

News of Zimmerman’s visit to the gunmaker comes just six weeks after a jury found him not guilty in the 2012 shooting death of Martin, an unarmed black teenager in Sanford, Fla. The trial was televised to a wide audience, and his acquittal led to nationwide protests and prompted President Barack Obama to speak out on the case.

According to the TMZ story, Zimmerman got a personal tour of the Cocoa, Fla., facility from the son of Kel-Tec’s founder and owner. The story includes a picture of Zimmerman and a man wearing a Kel-Tec shirt. TMZ says it was taken on the assembly plant floor. The entertainment website reported that Zimmerman inquired about purchasing a tactical shotgun; however Kel-Tec’s website says the company doesn't sell firearms directly to the public.

Late Friday afternoon, Kel-Tec sent Yahoo News a statement “concerning this leaked bit of information by someone unassociated with Kel-Tec.”

“He simply wanted to see the manufacturing facility,” the statement said of Zimmerman's visit. “This is a common occurrence with our customer base that live close by or may be traveling through.”

The statement implied that Zimmerman specifically inquired about a tactical shotgun he is apparently interested in purchasing.

“The Kel-Tec KSG is one of the most desired products in the industry, and can be very difficult to acquire due to supply and demand,” the company said. “Many individuals like to come by the plant to actually see the product and how it is made.”

Kel-Tec, one of the country's largest producers of handguns, said it did not want to gain recognition because of Martin's death.

“Kel-Tec's thoughts and prayers go out to everyone whose lives were forever changed,” the statement said.


At trial, Zimmerman’s defense team argued that their client killed Martin in self defense when the teen began beating him. The gun involved in the shooting is now with the U.S. Justice Department, which is reviewing the case for possible federal charges. Attorneys have said that Zimmerman, who is licensed to carry a concealed weapon in Florida, planned to continue to arm himself because of threats against his life.

“Security is, has been, and continues to be of great concern to every member of our family for obvious reasons,” his brother, Robert Zimmerman, wrote in an email to Yahoo News.

O’Mara still represents Zimmerman on sanctions his firm filed against Florida prosecutors for allegedly withholding case discovery, and in a defamation lawsuit against NBC News. Vincent says O'Mara and Zimmerman are in contact about once a week.

“From that perspective, we are George’s legal representation, but I don’t think he takes our advice on how he lives his life or what factories he decides to tour,” Vincent told Yahoo News. “We represented him in court. We got the verdict that we believe is just, and the rest of George’s life is up to George.”

But Vincent acknowledged that the timing of the factory tour was not well planned, especially since Zimmerman has become a lightning rod in the debate on gun and self defense rights.

“If you’re a public figure and you represent people’s opinion on those issues, then what you do in context is important for sure,” Vincent said.

Robert Zimmerman made no apologies for his brother's visit to Kel-Tec.

“Every criminal defendant is presumed innocent until or unless proven guilty,” he wrote to Yahoo News. “When a defendant is acquitted the presumption of innocence is maintained in our society. George is a free man and as such is entitled to visit, tour, frequent or patronize any business or locale he wishes.”


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Re: Lawyer: "Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories"
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2013, 05:27:58 AM »
What Robert Zimmerman forgets, is that there is being found not guilty, is different than being innocent.
There are lots of people who beat the rap for a crime, does that mean that they are innocent of committing it? No, it means that they state didn't prove or couldn't prove that they committed the act.

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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2013, 05:31:02 AM »
What Robert Zimmerman forgets, is that there is being found not guilty, is different than being innocent.
There are lots of people who beat the rap for a crime, does that mean that they are innocent of committing it? No, it means that they state didn't prove or couldn't prove that they committed the act.

I sound like a broken record but I feel Parker is right.  Also seems like zim got his guard down.  Smiling for photos seems like a bad idea.
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Re: Lawyer: "Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories"
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2013, 05:34:42 AM »
If the guy wants to buy a shotgun, he should be entitled to. However, the moron needs to be discreet about it. Not touring a gun factory with an (I got away with murder) shit eating grin on his face. Guy is clearly a moron.

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Re: Lawyer: "Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories"
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2013, 05:45:03 AM »
He wants the world to know he is getting a shotgun.  'Come after me, I'm prepared'..
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2013, 05:45:59 AM »
I sound like a broken record but I feel Parker is right.  Also seems like zim got his guard down.  Smiling for photos seems like a bad idea.
sometimes the record you want to hear is the broken one.

I said it before, Zimmerman will eff up again, sooner or later. Dude like him always do. From my experience, who beat the rap on cases, especially big ones, tend to get lax, and believe that they can possibly beat another, regardless of the infraction. And they are not discreet about their actions.

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Re: Lawyer: "Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories"
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2013, 05:46:37 AM »
The guy can do whatever the fuck he wants.

He did the world a great service

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2013, 05:49:09 AM »
The guy can do whatever the fuck he wants.

He did the world a great service
Sure he can do what he wants, but is it a good idea to do it, that is the question.

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2013, 05:51:29 AM »
The guy can do whatever the fuck he wants.

He did the world a great service

We will neve know.  Trayvon was still a kid with a lot of life left to live.
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Re: Lawyer: "Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories"
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2013, 06:02:17 AM »
Who cares? This is as lame as the speeding ticket story.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Lawyer: "Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories"
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2013, 06:03:16 AM »
Sure he can do what he wants, but is it a good idea to do it, that is the question.

Why not?  He's an innocent man, did nothing wrong

I'm a "Who gives a shit what people think" person., so I would do what I want.

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Re: Lawyer: "Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories"
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2013, 06:07:53 AM »
Why not?  He's an innocent man, did nothing wrong

I'm a "Who gives a shit what people think" person., so I would do what I want.
No he was found not guilty, not "innocent". All it means that in the court of law the State didn't/couldn't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he commuted the crime. That's it. OJ was found not guilty...does that mean he is innocent as in didn't commit the crime.

And therein lies one of the many reasons why America is the state it is in today.

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2013, 06:13:32 AM »
Apparently, not one single fuck was given by Zim. And I can respect that.

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Re: Lawyer: "Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories"
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2013, 06:15:57 AM »
No he was found not guilty, not "innocent". All it means that in the court of law the State didn't/couldn't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he commuted the crime. That's it. OJ was found not guilty...does that mean he is innocent as in didn't commit the crime.

And therein lies one of the many reasons why America is the state it is in today.

That's great and all, but he's a free man who can do whatever he pleases .

And  he committed no crime..that's what "not guilty" means. He shouldn't  have to tiptoe through life worrying about offending  people. Fuck them.

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Re: Lawyer: "Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories"
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2013, 06:18:42 AM »
Who cares? This is as lame as the speeding ticket story.
Yes because parading around a gun factory a month after a murder trial, is on the same level as a speeding ticket  ::)

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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2013, 06:18:55 AM »
Looks like he lost a little weight.  Back to the buzz cut and scruff look.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2013, 06:20:17 AM »
we can only speculate

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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2013, 06:21:18 AM »
Bullshit!  Why the fuck shouldn't he be touring gun factories?  He's a free man, found not guilty of any crimes.  He can do whatever the fuck he wants.  He should be able to continue living life just like he was before the shooting.  Nothing to see here folks, move it along.   :D

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2013, 06:23:07 AM »
Bullshit!  Why the fuck shouldn't he be touring gun factories?  He's a free man, found not guilty of any crimes.  He can do whatever the fuck he wants.  He should be able to continue living life just like he was before the shooting.  Nothing to see here folks, move it along.   :D

One of my objections is that his behavior keeps him in the press where he can continue to be used as a bogey man by the left.
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2013, 06:27:43 AM »
That's great and all, but he's a free man who can do whatever he pleases .

And  he committed no crime..that's what "not guilty" means. He shouldn't  have to tiptoe through life worrying about offending  people. Fuck them.
To the layman, that is what not guilty means...
Here is Black's Dictionary

What is NOT GUILTY?
A plea of the general issue In the actious of trespass and case and in criminal prosecutious. The form of the verdict In criminal cases, where the jury acquit the prisoner. 4 Bl. Comm. 301.



Law Dictionary: http://thelawdictionary.org/not-guilty/#ixzz2ctP8YcW0


It's not that he has to walk on eggshells, but in today's world, a PR savvy person, would try and stay out of the news, and any news he is in, it should be a positive for his image. Remember, there was a lot of PR damage to his image before and during the trial. Repairing it, is what he needs to do. Looking like sort of gloating pariah ain't gonna help.

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Re: Lawyer: "Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories"
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2013, 06:29:03 AM »
One of my objections is that his behavior keeps him in the press where he can continue to be used as a bogey man by the left.
Exactly, because that is exactly what will happen if he keeps it up.

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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2013, 06:29:18 AM »


gun or camel toe