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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 5 Episode 11
« Reply #75 on: August 26, 2013, 03:54:47 PM »
If you remember, Walter had told Jesse that Tyrese had stolen the cig with the ricin from him since he had such easy access to their stuff in the lab, and then gave it to Gus to use on the child. He also manipulated Jesse into the idea more by citing examples of Gus killing children.

The whole time, Yuell, in reality stole the cig from Jesse on behalf of Saul for Walt. Then Walt planted the cig in the robot vacuum cleaner and Jesse finally was able to rest his mind that Walt had nothing to do with it and he did almost kill him for nothing. Even though we all know thats not true...just how damn cold and smart Walt is.

Pretty sure that timeline above explains everything and why the Ricin cig ITSELF had nothing to do with Brock and its all Jesse knowing now that Tyrese never took it  and that Gus was innoncent the whole time, and that Walter had now for sure been proven to have SOMETHING to do with what happened in the Brock situation atleast :)



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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 5 Episode 11
« Reply #76 on: August 26, 2013, 03:58:42 PM »
Still gotta love Todd

"Uhh, I guess your busy...you know..with retirement." LOL. What a fucking momo. He is just too dumb to die though..one of those kids you know from back in the day in your town who drank, smoked, fucked, and did everything in the world, yet lives till 90 :)


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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 5 Episode 11
« Reply #77 on: August 26, 2013, 04:09:06 PM »
If you remember, Walter had told Jesse that Tyrese had stolen the cig with the ricin from him since he had such easy access to their stuff in the lab, and then gave it to Gus to use on the child. He also manipulated Jesse into the idea more by citing examples of Gus killing children.

The whole time, Yuell, in reality stole the cig from Jesse on behalf of Saul for Walt. Then Walt planted the cig in the robot vacuum cleaner and Jesse finally was able to rest his mind that Walt had nothing to do with it and he did almost kill him for nothing. Even though we all know thats not true...just how damn cold and smart Walt is.

Pretty sure that timeline above explains everything and why the Ricin cig ITSELF had nothing to do with Brock and its all Jesse knowing now that Tyrese never took it  and that Gus was innoncent the whole time, and that Walter had now for sure been proven to have SOMETHING to do with what happened in the Brock situation atleast :)




Remember that Gus gave Jesse credit and treated him like he had potential.  Jesse never had that in his life and Walt turned Jesse against him.  Jesse realizes that he's been played by Walt like a flute.

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 5 Episode 11
« Reply #78 on: August 27, 2013, 12:30:01 AM »

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 5 Episode 11
« Reply #79 on: August 27, 2013, 09:15:56 AM »

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 5 Episode 11
« Reply #80 on: August 27, 2013, 10:22:40 AM »
Remember that Gus gave Jesse credit and treated him like he had potential.  Jesse never had that in his life and Walt turned Jesse against him.  Jesse realizes that he's been played by Walt like a flute.

That was a bunch of bs too, to get Jesse out of the lab and Gail back in so that Walt wouldn't have such a stranglehold on Fring.  (Most difficult to believe part of the series tho.  As if you couldn't find 1000s of chemists for that kind of money.)  Walt was savvy enough to get rid of Gail (I didn't get it at the time) and install Jesse (whom Fring despised)since it was the only way to ensure his own continuity.  Jesse's only non-pawn moment was when he told Fring not to kill Walt during the walk out of Mexico, which Fring mistakenly respected owing to his own history with his dead partner and not wanting to become like the cartel boss & Salamanca.

Jesse's best use is to die in such a way that Hank is potentially framed for his murder.  That, given the assault history, plus 'the confession' would really paint Hank in a corner.  But they keep making us think that Walt & Jesse are going to kill one another and they never do.  Walt always had a use for Jesse before though, but I reckon he has some genuine affection for the kid.  Can't wait to see.

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 5 Episode 11
« Reply #81 on: August 27, 2013, 10:41:26 AM »
That was a bunch of bs too, to get Jesse out of the lab and Gail back in so that Walt wouldn't have such a stranglehold on Fring.  (Most difficult to believe part of the series tho.  As if you couldn't find 1000s of chemists for that kind of money.)  Walt was savvy enough to get rid of Gail (I didn't get it at the time) and install Jesse (whom Fring despised)since it was the only way to ensure his own continuity.  Jesse's only non-pawn moment was when he told Fring not to kill Walt during the walk out of Mexico, which Fring mistakenly respected owing to his own history with his dead partner and not wanting to become like the cartel boss & Salamanca.

Jesse's best use is to die in such a way that Hank is potentially framed for his murder.  That, given the assault history, plus 'the confession' would really paint Hank in a corner.  But they keep making us think that Walt & Jesse are going to kill one another and they never do.  Walt always had a use for Jesse before though, but I reckon he has some genuine affection for the kid.  Can't wait to see.

Walt feels that he can do with jesse things he couldn't do with Walt Jr.  But that's where the love ends.  Walt has love for Jesse.  Heisenberg doesn't.  Walt has become some dual personality freak.

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 5 Episode 11
« Reply #82 on: August 27, 2013, 10:43:09 AM »
Yeah, I loved the hat.

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 5 Episode 11
« Reply #83 on: August 27, 2013, 10:47:01 AM »
Walt feels that he can do with jesse things he couldn't do with Walt Jr.  But that's where the love ends.  Walt has love for Jesse.  Heisenberg doesn't.  Walt has become some dual personality freak.

I think it is hard to see if Walt is full on Heisenberg now or not. Was it a sign of weakness that he did not kill Hank? Probably not, since the "confession" tape made Hank shut up for now.

I guess Jesse will be Walt's real problem in future episodes. Especially if he starts talking to the DEA now that he hates Walt more than he probably ever has before.

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 5 Episode 11
« Reply #84 on: August 27, 2013, 11:05:31 AM »
I think it is hard to see if Walt is full on Heisenberg now or not. Was it a sign of weakness that he did not kill Hank? Probably not, since the "confession" tape made Hank shut up for now.

I guess Jesse will be Walt's real problem in future episodes. Especially if he starts talking to the DEA now that he hates Walt more than he probably ever has before.

Jesse is a lot of things but he's not a rat.  He hates Hank more than anything.  Jesse might end up getting caught in some crossfire or saving Walt in the process.  The Wife is a wild card.  The fact they brought Walt Jr. back and have him curious about his dad gives me a feeling he has some important role coming up.  He was a forgotten character.  they are setting this up nicely because you have Marie who wants Walt dead, you have Jesse who wants Walt dead, you have Skylar who wants him dead, you have Saul who wants fuck all to do with him, you have Hank who wants to bust him. Walt has his whole world against him.  Sadly for him Todd is the only guy on his side.

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Re: Breaking Bad - Season 5 Episode 11
« Reply #85 on: August 27, 2013, 02:09:07 PM »
Jesse is a lot of things but he's not a rat.  He hates Hank more than anything.  Jesse might end up getting caught in some crossfire or saving Walt in the process.  The Wife is a wild card.  The fact they brought Walt Jr. back and have him curious about his dad gives me a feeling he has some important role coming up.  He was a forgotten character.  they are setting this up nicely because you have Marie who wants Walt dead, you have Jesse who wants Walt dead, you have Skylar who wants him dead, you have Saul who wants fuck all to do with him, you have Hank who wants to bust him. Walt has his whole world against him.  Sadly for him Todd is the only guy on his side.

100% on the not rat. Jesse just won't rat. Even back when he was a total junkie mess more  than now he was pissed Jane even brought up the idea. That is the only good thing about him :)

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