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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2013, 03:04:22 PM »
Washington, London: A study in contrasts over Syria debate

      
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People take part in a protest organized by the Stop the War coalition calling for no military attack on Syria from the U.S., Britain or France, across the road from the entrance of Downing Street in London | Matt Dunham/AP
     

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By David Lightman | McClatchy Washington Bureau




WASHINGTON —  The British Parliament spent Thursday slugging it out over Syria. The U.S. Congress stayed away. For the fourth straight week.

If you want a rousing debate over whether the United States should launch a military strike against the Syrian regime, you’ll have to head overseas or surf the Internet and find a British site.

“In Great Britain, Prime Minister David Cameron has called the House of Commons home from vacation to deliberate over the use of force in Syria,” said Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, while “in Washington, D.C., crickets are chirping.”
      
Congressional leaders are being briefed, usually by phone, by Obama administration officials. Leaders are not ruling out summoning Congress back, but “it’s hard to say whether that could be necessary until we know what the White House is actually planning to do, if anything,” said Michael Steel, spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio.

But many rank-and-file members want to know more, lots more, and dozens say they’re ready to return to Washington.

“We stand ready to come back into session, consider the facts before us, and share the burden of decisions made regarding U.S. involvement in the quickly escalating Syrian conflict,” said a letter signed by 98 Republicans and 18 Democrats in the House of Representatives.

Some analysts suspect the real reason Congress is not in session to address the Syria question is that leaders, as well as the White House, fear political chaos. Debate could be intense and ugly, and a vote on whether to back military action is not, as intelligence officials might say, a slam dunk.

“The administration doesn’t want a vote. It would be messy,” said Ilya Shapiro, senior fellow in constitutional studies at the libertarian Cato Institute.

Both parties could endure very public schisms. A solid core of Republicans have signaled their distaste for military action. Rep. Lynn Jenkins, R-Kan., noted there is “no threat to our homeland,” a view echoed by others. Obama also faces trouble from his own party. “Frankly, I’m skeptical about getting involved in another action in the Middle East. I don’t think it’s turned out well,” said Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest did not say Thursday whether Congress should return to Washington to debate or vote on any intervention in Syria, but he said repeatedly that the White House was seeking lawmakers’ consultation.

“I’m not ruling out future briefings that might include every member of Congress,” Earnest said.

And so, Thursday, London and Washington remained worlds apart.

At the Capitol, one could walk from the House of Representatives side to the Senate side, which takes about half an hour, and encounter only a half-dozen people, none of them members of Congress.

Parliament, on the other hand, was rocking. Members had been summoned for an emergency session to vote on military action, and Prime Minister Cameron explained the situation. Votes are expected soon.

In Washington, the longer Congress is gone, the harder it will be to call it back. Labor Day weekend is a popular time for campaigning. Two days after the holiday, the Jewish New Year begins at sunset, and the observance lasts for many until Friday night.

And then it’s the weekend, with lawmakers officially due back in Washington on Monday, Sept. 9, at least for a while. Eleven days later, the House is scheduled to leave for a nine-day September recess.

Anita Kumar and William Douglas of the Washington Bureau contributed to this story.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/29/200788/washington-london-a-study-in-contrasts.html#storylink=cpy

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2013, 03:12:37 PM »
BECAUSE THE REBELS ARE AL QUEADA AND CANNIBALS


Plus - Obama is trying to enable the radical jihadists like he did in Libya and Egypt   

No thanks
Might as well ruin them too.  Create a power vacuum and put someone less bat shit in. 

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2013, 03:14:05 PM »
I see what you're saying, but I think the less meddling we do the better.  Why don't we invest the money and resources in securing our boarders and embassies instead?

Whose going to run these countries when we topple these people?  It looks like even worse people are stepping in and taking control everywhere we go.
I think Iraq has been somewhat of a  success story so far.

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2013, 03:14:37 PM »
Might as well ruin them too.  Create a power vacuum and put someone less bat shit in. 

False - Obama is trying to put people in worse than Assad

He seems intent on this

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/30/us/politics/obama-syria.html?hp


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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2013, 03:43:10 PM »
False - Obama is trying to put people in worse than Assad

He seems intent on this

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/30/us/politics/obama-syria.html?hp


I doubt that judging by overseeing the decimation of Al-Quaeda throughout his first and second term.  If Obama has done one thing right, it has been that he has gone extra hard against Al-Quaeda and militant Islamists. 

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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2013, 03:44:13 PM »
I doubt that judging by overseeing the decimation of Al-Quaeda throughout his first and second term.  If Obama has done one thing right, it has been that he has gone extra hard against Al-Quaeda and militant Islamists. 

Al Queada is not decimated as Obama lied about.  The flag of Al Qeuada is flying in lybia, Egypt, and amongst the Syrian rebels.

This was another lie of Obama to get re-elected. 

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2013, 03:45:36 PM »
Al Queada is not decimated as Obama lied about.  The flag of Al Qeuada is flying in lybia, Egypt, and amongst the Syrian rebels.

This was another lie of Obama to get re-elected. 
Hey, they can fly whatever they want, but it won`t do them any good when there is a drone over head.

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2013, 03:58:58 PM »
So now that England is pulling out, France and the US could strike as soon as Saturday when the UN inspectors are scheduled to leave.

If we're going to bomb Syria, bomb the whole fucking country and be done with it.

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2013, 03:59:32 PM »
So now that England is pulling out, France and the US could strike as soon as Saturday when the UN inspectors are scheduled to leave.

If we're going to bomb Syria, bomb the whole fucking country and be done with it.
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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2013, 06:51:16 AM »
A ThermoNuclear Theocracy is not acceptable.
But you are ok with israel?
Between israel and iran, which has been more hostile to their neighbors? Which has invaded neighboring countries? Which has been involved in perpetual conflict?

But oh yea, we just 'need' to attack iran ::)

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2013, 09:06:20 AM »
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/30/obama-strike-syria-britain-vote


Obama cant even get UK to help out on his adventures to aide Al Queada

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2013, 10:32:43 AM »
But you are ok with israel?
Between israel and iran, which has been more hostile to their neighbors? Which has invaded neighboring countries? Which has been involved in perpetual conflict?

But oh yea, we just 'need' to attack iran ::)
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Israel is a Democracy Genius, not a theocracy. 

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2013, 10:33:36 AM »
Republicans are stupid as fuck for not supporting Obama on this.

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2013, 10:34:29 AM »
Republicans are stupid as fuck for not supporting Obama on this.

TA - the rebels are al queada.  What part of this do you not grasp? 

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2013, 10:37:37 AM »
TA - the rebels are al queada.  What part of this do you not grasp? 
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Its more complicated than that and its not like Obama and the US military are allying with Al-Quaeda.  I am sure they will destroy all of them if given the chance to go over there.

What part of that do YOU not understand?


Republicans are becoming weak-willed pussy hipsters defending Muslims.  Its quite hilarious actually.

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2013, 10:39:48 AM »
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Its more complicated than that and its not like Obama and the US military are allying with Al-Quaeda.  I am sure they will destroy all of them if given the chance to go over there.

What part of that do YOU not understand?


Republicans are becoming weak-willed pussy hipsters defending Muslims.  Its quite hilarious actually.

No - we are advocating letting these animals kill each other off on their own.

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #45 on: August 30, 2013, 10:45:06 AM »
No - we are advocating letting these animals kill each other off on their own.
That never happens.  Plus, why would you want to back down to Iran?

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #46 on: August 30, 2013, 10:46:10 AM »
That never happens.  Plus, why would you want to back down to Iran?

We are not planning on bombing them so whats the point?

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #47 on: August 30, 2013, 10:52:00 AM »
Hey, they can fly whatever they want, but it won`t do them any good when there is a drone over head.

Hey, you are a babling, idiotic atheist scumbag if you think Al-qaeda has in any way been decimated by those drone attacks. Kill their current leaders and there is a hundred more ready to take their place.  Al-qaeda is alive and well.

Obama lied and you believed him. So much for your intellectual superiority.


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« Reply #48 on: August 30, 2013, 10:55:31 AM »
Hey, you are a babling, idiotic atheist scumbag if you think Al-qaeda has in any way been decimated by those drone attacks. Kill their current leaders and there is a hundred more ready to take their place.  Al-qaeda is alive and well.

Obama lied and you believed him. So much for your intellectual superiority.


Blah, Blah, Blah you stupid stone aged thinking moron.

The Obama Administration has decimated Al-Quaeda.  To speak otherwise is nonsense.  You people really are morons when it comes to some things.  You hear Obama and automatically have a knee-jerk reactions.

Some things he does do right and going after terrorists is one of them.  Nobody has been as effective to date.

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Re: No clear intel that Assad used chemical weapons
« Reply #49 on: August 30, 2013, 11:05:44 AM »
Blah, Blah, Blah you stupid stone aged thinking moron.

The Obama Administration has decimated Al-Quaeda.  To speak otherwise is nonsense.  You people really are morons when it comes to some things.  You hear Obama and automatically have a knee-jerk reactions.

Some things he does do right and going after terrorists is one of them.  Nobody has been as effective to date.

You damn retard. They haven't done crap.

The death of Bin Laden DID NOTHING. The killing of their leaders hasn't cause them to skip a bit.

Stick to breeding your stupid dogs, you filthy waste of skin.

This is the type of moron that accuses others of being sheep yet he believes everything that the moron in chief shoves up his ass.  This is the type of nitwit that continues to support that garbage in the white house.


Que the retard to post an article that claims Al-qaeda is decimated as if it was the actual truth.