Author Topic: arnold's physique-most pleasing of all time (Read 28188 times)

bmacsys · « **Reply #50 on:** December 25, 2005, 06:00:28 AM »

Quote from: madmullah on December 24, 2005, 08:48:00 PM

it is very important when we have view on a bodybuilder' physique that we do not bring their personality into it.sergio is a wonderful person,arnold is not so wonderful,but give respect to their physiques separately.

Madmullah, didn't Sergio's wife shoot him after taking years of his abuse? I am pretty sure its true. That wouldn't make him a "wonderful person".

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #51 on:** December 25, 2005, 09:03:17 AM »

Sergio looks unpolished next to Arnold. On their best days Arnold is better due to his superior conditioning, skin tone and presentation. Muscle wise Sergio has a very slight edge that Arnie more than makes up for with the previously mentioned attributes. Sergio was a dope, and it showed on contest day. He would go onstage completely unprepared compared to Arnold, who was the consumate professional and looked like a million bucks

pumpster · « **Reply #52 on:** December 25, 2005, 09:09:20 AM »

In what ways was he unprepared? Sergio in top shape looked plenty polished, enough so that the general concensus is that he won in '72. So much for polish.

Being big wouldn't have been enough-he was in condition in some instances, not in many others-but there aren't many pictures of him in top condition. There are many pictures of Arnold in top condition. Big difference.

Also keep in mind that most of that shit Arnold's proud to perpetuate ad nauseum about psyching out opponents has no basis in fact. Who has ever corroborated Schwarzenegger's claims? Mentzer and Oliva never substantiated any of this, but the uninformed eat it up.

Hulkster · « **Reply #53 on:** December 25, 2005, 10:13:18 AM »

I know I will get flamed for this, but ronnie really DID used to have a "pleasing" physique:

other than his calves, he had near perfect balance at one point..

Carmello · « **Reply #54 on:** December 25, 2005, 10:16:28 AM »

Flex was 100% Steriods man. He looks like total boiled shit without the juice! Thats how he made himself, and fuked himself. Arnold and Serge had great genetics and are not comparable to Flex. You live by the juice, u die by the juice.

madmullah · « **Reply #55 on:** December 25, 2005, 10:54:49 AM »

as great as ronnie coleman is i prefer flex's physique,less oil.

pumpster · « **Reply #56 on:** December 25, 2005, 11:09:36 AM »

Most of the current guys are clearly less pleasing! Coleman's awesome but i wouldn't say most pleasing, even back in the day.

Melvin Anthony & Martinez are the exceptions; as aesthetic as anyone from any era.

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #57 on:** December 25, 2005, 11:14:46 AM »

Quote from: madmullah on December 25, 2005, 10:54:49 AM

as great as ronnie coleman is i prefer flex's physique,less oil.

Your an idiot aren't you, i mean really i was actually gonna flame Hulster for once again brining up ronnie in a arnold thread about a pleasing physique but seriously what you said has to be by far the most retarded thing i have ever read at this site. To say ronnie has more/any oil is like saying that Dave Henry is a mass monster, do you even follow bodybuilding

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #58 on:** December 25, 2005, 11:19:22 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on December 25, 2005, 11:09:36 AM

Most of the current guys are clearly less pleasing! Coleman's awesome but i wouldn't say most pleasing, even back in the day.

Melvin Anthony & Martinez are the exceptions; as aesthetic as anyone from any era.

Ahmed Haider looks great

Gord · « **Reply #59 on:** December 25, 2005, 11:25:35 AM »

Quote from: MikeThaMachine on December 25, 2005, 11:14:46 AM

....i was actually gonna flame Hulster for once again brining up ronnie in a arnold thread about a pleasing physique....

Do that anyway.

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #60 on:** December 25, 2005, 11:36:11 AM »

Quote from: Gord on December 25, 2005, 11:25:35 AM

Do that anyway.

Hulkster is it possible that and i am serious but maybe ronnie coleman isnt the best at everything. It seems that no matter who is being talked about or being admired in a thread that you have to bring up ronnie coleman, like do you ever not have his cock balls deep into your mouth. Has it ever come across you mind that maybe some bodybuilders look better then him and also why is it when you bring him up its always his old pics when he was smaller, well that is unless somone is talking about size and then its time for his gutmaster 2003-now contest size. Dont get me wrong ronnie is great and hands down Mr. O but it gets old when it seems all you say is hes the all time best at everything.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #61 on:** December 25, 2005, 11:59:58 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on December 25, 2005, 09:09:20 AM

In what ways was he unprepared? Sergio in top shape looked plenty polished, enough so that the general concensus is that he won in '72. So much for polish.

Being big wouldn't have been enough-he was in condition in some instances, not in many others-but there aren't many pictures of him in top condition. There are many pictures of Arnold in top condition. Big difference.

Also keep in mind that most of that shit Arnold's proud to perpetuate ad nauseum about psyching out opponents has no basis in fact. Who has ever corroborated Schwarzenegger's claims? Mentzer and Oliva never substantiated any of this, but the uninformed eat it up.

Maybe there aren't a lot of pics of Sergio in top shape BECAUSE HE CAME IN OUT OF SHAPE MOST OF THE TIME. You'll get no argument out of me about 72, he looked great, altough I think Arnold was better. But that is only one year. Arnold was in shape every year. I'm well aware that Arnold was the chose one back then, but the dude more than held up his end of the bargain.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #62 on:** December 25, 2005, 03:29:36 PM »

Quote from: MikeThaMachine on December 25, 2005, 11:36:11 AM

Hulkster is it possible that and i am serious but maybe ronnie coleman isnt the best at everything. It seems that no matter who is being talked about or being admired in a thread that you have to bring up ronnie coleman, like do you ever not have his cock balls deep into your mouth. Has it ever come across you mind that maybe some bodybuilders look better then him and also why is it when you bring him up its always his old pics when he was smaller, well that is unless somone is talking about size and then its time for his gutmaster 2003-now contest size. Dont get me wrong ronnie is great and hands down Mr. O but it gets old when it seems all you say is hes the all time best at everything.

He is like a drug addict , he just can't help himself.

bmacsys · « **Reply #63 on:** December 25, 2005, 03:38:50 PM »

Quote from: Groink on December 25, 2005, 11:59:58 AM

Maybe there aren't a lot of pics of Sergio in top shape BECAUSE HE CAME IN OUT OF SHAPE MOST OF THE TIME. You'll get no argument out of me about 72, he looked great, altough I think Arnold was better. But that is only one year. Arnold was in shape every year. I'm well aware that Arnold was the chose one back then, but the dude more than held up his end of the bargain.

Arnold could sell more magazines when he was on the cover than Sergio. The Wieders were businessman. Plain and simple. Arnold was smart, glib, white, and good looking. Sergio had none of those attributes. Sergio was built better than Arnold.

pumpster · « **Reply #64 on:** December 25, 2005, 03:46:38 PM »

Exactly; for selling mags, a more charismatic BB who was white such as Arnold was a no-brainer, they had to back Arnold. Sergio was pushed aside in the early 70s and off the pages of Weider's mag for the most part. No more pics.

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Maybe there aren't a lot of pics of Sergio in top shape BECAUSE HE CAME IN OUT OF SHAPE MOST OF THE TIME.

You're just speculating. In the era of his best conditioning-early 70s, then again in the late 70s, he was on the outs with Weider and wasn't featured in Weider's mag. Weider had the best photographers and budget. Simply not a lot of widely available pics taken then of Sergio-he was by then appearing in Iron Man and Lurie mags.

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You'll get no argument out of me about 72, he looked great, altough I think Arnold was better. But that is only one year. Arnold was in shape every year.

Do some research, you're inaccurate. In each case there were windows when they were in their peak all-time condition-Sergio '72 and almost as good '71,'73,'74 and late 70s, Arnold '73-'74. At other times, neither had it entirely together. Arnold was not at his best in '72 and '80.

Since you know so much...If Arnold was better, why didn't he come out of the audience to answer Sergio's challenge at the Mr. International? It wasn't a Weider event and Arnold might have lost.

kingmaximus76 · « **Reply #65 on:** December 25, 2005, 05:06:01 PM »

me personally I agree with faust. i dont like the size of todays pros legs. if i had to pic a physique it would be bill pearle.

madmullah · « **Reply #66 on:** December 25, 2005, 05:13:15 PM »

anrold or sergio, who was better is not the issue.the issue is who's physique could you look at and prefer.

Hendrix · « **Reply #67 on:** December 25, 2005, 05:53:21 PM »

Give me Sergios physique over any current pro.As ive said before i look at the male physique like a motor car.
Sergio/ Lambourghini
Flex/Ferrari
Dorian/GTO
Ronster/Dodge Viper
Kamali/Taxi cab
Womens bodybuilders looks like a transexual pagent.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #68 on:** December 25, 2005, 06:39:58 PM »

Quote from: kingmaximus76 on December 25, 2005, 05:06:01 PM

me personally I agree with faust. i dont like the size of todays pros legs. if i had to pic a physique it would be bill pearle.

Bill Pearl

kingmaximus76 · « **Reply #69 on:** December 25, 2005, 06:44:40 PM »

thanks for the pic ND.

3Dkiller · « **Reply #70 on:** December 25, 2005, 06:59:43 PM »

Quote from: MikeThaMachine on December 25, 2005, 11:19:22 AM

Ahmed Haider looks great

haidar looks awesome man

madmullah · « **Reply #71 on:** December 25, 2005, 07:30:47 PM »

you can still admire the old physiques,they have stood the test of time.can we say the same about today's pros?more importantly in years to come.

Hulkster · « **Reply #72 on:** December 25, 2005, 07:38:48 PM »

Quote from: MikeThaMachine on December 25, 2005, 11:36:11 AM

Hulkster is it possible that and i am serious but maybe ronnie coleman isnt the best at everything. It seems that no matter who is being talked about or being admired in a thread that you have to bring up ronnie coleman, like do you ever not have his cock balls deep into your mouth. Has it ever come across you mind that maybe some bodybuilders look better then him and also why is it when you bring him up its always his old pics when he was smaller, well that is unless somone is talking about size and then its time for his gutmaster 2003-now contest size. Dont get me wrong ronnie is great and hands down Mr. O but it gets old when it seems all you say is hes the all time best at everything.

why don't you flame the people who brought up Sergio or anyone else in an Arnold Thread too

After all, no one else has the right to be mentioned in an 'arnold thread'

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #73 on:** December 25, 2005, 07:54:15 PM »

Quote from: bmacsys on December 25, 2005, 03:38:50 PM

Sergio was built better than Arnold.

No he wasn't. Everybody talks about how big Sergio Arm's were but I think they were nothing special. THey remind me of Mike Mentzer's arms. Forearms are too big, NO peak on the bi's and no detail in the tri's. Bigger isn't always better.

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #74 on:** December 25, 2005, 08:32:55 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on December 25, 2005, 07:38:48 PM

why don't you flame the people who brought up Sergio or anyone else in an Arnold Thread too

After all, no one else has the right to be mentioned in an 'arnold thread'

It's just that you pop up in so many threads with all your ronnie tea bagging and shit. I don't really notice anyone else who consistantly shows up in threads and post about a specific bodybuilder 24/7.