arnold's physique-most pleasing of all time

[MikeThaMachine]

Its too bad Flex never looked that good again, He did become Mr Oil and lost alot of respect But if you havnt noticed Arnold and Sergio were healthier after 40 then flex was before 40 and i would have to say their physiques were more complete the flex's ever was.

[GMCtrk]

Its too bad Flex never looked that good again, He did become Mr Oil and lost alot of respect But if you havnt noticed Arnold and Sergio were healthier after 40 then flex was before 40 and i would have to say their physiques were more complete the flex's ever was.

Flex's health was due to a genetic disease, so your statement really isn't applicable.

Also, flex in 93 had perfect proportion and symmetry, something Arnold or Oliva never had. Arnold's needed more leg mass. Oliva's arms overpowered everything and he had no back detail.

People can disagree, but flex at the arnold classic 93 was the finest ever seen on stage. From that point on where could the IFBB go? Aesthetics had reached its peak and mass had to take over. Flex gets in the car wreck, his kidneys won't allow him to get in his best shape, plus he has to deal with mass monsters Yates and Coleman. Flex trained like a pussy compared to those two. So he had to turn to oil. The judging standards forced him into it.

[Palpatine Q]

Flex's health was due to a genetic disease, so your statement really isn't applicable.

Also, flex in 93 had perfect proportion and symmetry, something Arnold or Oliva never had. Arnold's needed more leg mass. Oliva's arms overpowered everything and he had no back detail.

People can disagree, but flex at the arnold classic 93 was the finest ever seen on stage. From that point on where could the IFBB go? Aesthetics had reached its peak and mass had to take over. Flex gets in the car wreck, his kidneys won't allow him to get in his best shape, plus he has to deal with mass monsters Yates and Coleman. Flex trained like a pussy compared to those two. So he had to turn to oil. The judging standards forced him into it.

Flex had structural flaws as well. There has never been a perfect BBer.

[pumpster]

It's true, don't present Flex as somehow better than Sergio or Arnold. Better than Haney or Yates i'd consider.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Flex's health was due to a genetic disease, so your statement really isn't applicable.

Also, flex in 93 had perfect proportion and symmetry, something Arnold or Oliva never had. Arnold's needed more leg mass. Oliva's arms overpowered everything and he had no back detail.

People can disagree, but flex at the arnold classic 93 was the finest ever seen on stage. From that point on where could the IFBB go? Aesthetics had reached its peak and mass had to take over. Flex gets in the car wreck, his kidneys won't allow him to get in his best shape, plus he has to deal with mass monsters Yates and Coleman. Flex trained like a pussy compared to those two. So he had to turn to oil. The judging standards forced him into it.

You're high if you think Flex had " perfect proportion "  I'm a huge Flex Wheeler fan but perfect proportions is something he didn't have , he had superheavyweights arms and a middleweights torso , structually he was narrow , and from a proprtion standpoint his muscles didn't compliment each other with perfection in the Chris Comier sense or a Lee Labrada sense , what made Flex perfect that contest was the combo of size/shape and conditioning .

[Loomis]

Flex's health was due to a genetic disease, so your statement really isn't applicable.

Seems alot of pros have "genetic kidney problems"

[GMCtrk]

comparing Sergio to Flex for aesthetics in my opinion isn't even worthwhile

And while were at it, everyone talks about how big Sergio was....and how he could rival pros today or even exceed them in size...well, that's becuase his contest condition from back then was bascially what most pros today would call "offseason". He was soft as a donut...

[MikeThaMachine]

Flex's health was due to a genetic disease, so your statement really isn't applicable.

Also, flex in 93 had perfect proportion and symmetry, something Arnold or Oliva never had. Arnold's needed more leg mass. Oliva's arms overpowered everything and he had no back detail.

People can disagree, but flex at the arnold classic 93 was the finest ever seen on stage. From that point on where could the IFBB go? Aesthetics had reached its peak and mass had to take over. Flex gets in the car wreck, his kidneys won't allow him to get in his best shape, plus he has to deal with mass monsters Yates and Coleman. Flex trained like a pussy compared to those two. So he had to turn to oil. The judging standards forced him into it.

You make it seem like flex at the 93 asc was the best body ever displayed in the ifbb.

[MikeThaMachine]

comparing Sergio to Flex for aesthetics in my opinion isn't even worthwhile

And while were at it, everyone talks about how big Sergio was....and how he could rival pros today or even exceed them in size...well, that's becuase his contest condition from back then was bascially what most pros today would call "offseason". He was soft as a donut...

I didnt know bodybuilders today sported such a small waist in the offseason

[GMCtrk]

You make it seem like flex at the 93 asc was the best body ever displayed in the ifbb.

it was in my opinion. Catch some video from the show and see for yourself.

[pumpster]

You chose a bad pic to compare Sergio with Ron. If you knew anything you'd have found something better than what Iron Age in their wisdom came up with.

Neither guy's in his best shape there, so the comparison's weak. How can you bring up Sergio's conditioning and then post a pic that has Ron with a bloated waist! He's the one who looks like he's been eating donuts! A better shot of Sergio would've been smarter as well.

[GMCtrk]

You chose a bad pic to compare Sergio with Ron. If you knew anything you'd have found something better than what Iron Age in their wisdom came up with.

Neither guy's in his best shape there, so the comparison's weak. Anyway, take a look and notice that Ron's waist is huge compared to Sergio's. Anway, a better shot of Sergio would've been smarter.

It's not really in my interest to compare bodybuilders from different eras, but with all the blatant arnold and sergio "nostalgia" in this thread I thought I would put my two cents in. Sergio was equivalent in his time to what Ronnie is today in terms of the mass game. But to call Segio or Arnold the most aesthic BBs of all time is absurd considering they both had many more flaws than Flex.

[MikeThaMachine]

You chose a bad pic to compare Sergio with Ron. If you knew anything you'd have found something better than what Iron Age in their wisdom came up with.

Neither guy's in his best shape there, so the comparison's weak. How can you bring up Sergio's conditioning and then post a pic that has Ron with a bloated waist! He's the one who looks like he's been eating donuts! A better shot of Sergio would've been smarter as well.

Or he could compare sergio with somone other then ronnie the biggest hardest freak ever in the ifbb.

[GMCtrk]

You chose a bad pic to compare Sergio with Ron. If you knew anything you'd have found something better than what Iron Age in their wisdom came up with.

Neither guy's in his best shape there, so the comparison's weak. How can you bring up Sergio's conditioning and then post a pic that has Ron with a bloated waist! He's the one who looks like he's been eating donuts! A better shot of Sergio would've been smarter as well.

Ronnie's conditioning in that picture is spot on. He is dry and shredded. His gut is in no way indicative of his conditioning. It's a result of the drugs and the pure amount of food he has to eat everyday. Where is the peak on Sergio's biceps? Where is the quad separation? Where are the striations?

[pumpster]

Neither of the pics is flattering, invest in some glasses.

None of the guys mentioned are the most aesthetic, this has become who's the best.

Some would argue with some justification that the guys from the 70s looked better. They were smaller, but so were their waists.

Just a matter of taste with no answer.

[GMCtrk]

Or he could compare sergio with somone other then ronnie the biggest hardest freak ever in the ifbb.

Ronnie is far from the hardest or best conditioned BB of all-time.



If you can find any Sergio picture that rival's this go ahead and post it up.

[MikeThaMachine]

Ronnie is far from the hardest or best conditioned BB of all-time.



If you can find any Sergio picture that rival's this go ahead and post it up.

You are becoming Flex's Hulkster, Lips wraped firmly around his cock balls deep, everyone one here knows what i am talking about

[GMCtrk]

Or maybe that's just your sad response if you have nothing better to post. I firmly believe that Flex is better aesthetically than arnold or oliva - and easily at that. If you want to protest it, put up some pictures of Oliva to prove me wrong. Otherwise, maybe you should take a second to read the forum rules before you click to enter.

[pumpster]

Get some good pics if you're relying on them to prove your point. For the new year get some glasses.

[MikeThaMachine]

Or maybe that's just your sad response if you have nothing better to post. I firmly believe that Flex is better aesthetically than arnold or oliva - and easily at that. If you want to protest it, put up some pictures of Oliva to prove me wrong. Otherwise, maybe you should take a second to read the forum rules before you click to enter.

Dude your trying way to hard If you knew what i was talking about you would have thought it funny and laughed but i can see that you take yourself a little to seriously and maybe your not ready for this board, either way theres no way to argue opinions and be right or wrong and thats why i am not gonna sit here and post pictures and argue about this discussion all night.

[Hulkster]

Ronnie is far from the hardest or best conditioned BB of all-time.

 On average, no, but Ronnie at the 98 Olympia (his dryest ever) could at least tie for that distinction:


I don't think I have ever seen pecs quite this striated

when a bodybuilder has the "skeleton face "look, you know he is about as dry as you can get..

you won't find a back shot that was dryer that this.

Perhaps only munzer was dryer.

and yes, that ironager comparison is a really, really bad shot of BOTH Ronnie and Sergio.

[NarcissisticDeity]

On average, no, but Ronnie at the 98 Olympia (his dryest ever) could at least tie for that distinction:

I don't think I have ever seen pecs quite this striated

when a bodybuilder has the "skeleton face "look, you know he is about as dry as you can get..

you won't find a back shot that was dryer that this.

Perhaps only munzer was dryer.

and yes, that ironager comparison is a really, really bad shot of BOTH Ronnie and Sergio.

This back shot matches at minimum that back shot of Ronnie

[NarcissisticDeity]

So does this one.

[Palpatine Q]

True, but Ron displayed that dryness and detail about 50 lbs. heavier than Samir and 35 lbs. heavier than flex. Now if you spin them around, Flex beats Ron for the same reason Arnold beat Sergio.......he's just put together better.

[Hulkster]

no they don't- for two reasons: hams and glutes.

Hell, even Ronnie's shitty calves are super-cut in that shot!