Coke/meth/other drug withdrawal timetables

[DIVISION]

nature nurture Div...i believe that...


ANYONE who does a certain drug enuff can condition themselves to be addicted..





drink often enough..and you'll be addicted..

No, Junaid......

I'm the Psychology Major, you're the Network Programmer.....

Let me do my thing, you do yours, negro.

I don't have an addictive personality, never have, despite all possible temptations and compromising scenarios.

I suppose lifting heavy weight, or specifically the euphoria I get from it would be my sole addiction.

Feel this.



DIV

[ToxicAvenger]

 the euphoria I get from it would be my sole addiction.





DIV

EXACTLY...

i DO understand Div..i really do understand your POV..however i've been on the other side ...when i first did coke i ALSO used to think...nahhh i dont have an addictive personality...

high serotonin levels...takes a strong man to say no to that...

however i've seen u talk...u happen 2 be strong willed...HOWEVER if you r the exception to the rule (ie someone that can be strong) does not mean i'm wrong about the general population

[bigdumbbell]

Twenty tons of hashish were seized and 11 people arrested in a raid by Spanish police today.

The drugs were hidden in a warehouse in Arganda del Rey, about 13 miles east of Madrid.

A police statement said: “This could be the biggest seizure of hashish to date in Madrid.”

The biggest drugs bust in Spain this year was in October in the southern port of Algeciras where police seized over 26 tons of hashish.

Spain is a major entry point into Europe for hashish and cocaine.

my brothers friend was in the merchant marines
travelled the world many times
turkey, spain, morocco, thailand, cambodia
columbia..use to send hash and pot to my brother in small
suitcases.  god bless my brother though he'd give joints, and
balls away ...but never deal. lol

[DEFCON]

I stick with LSD

[McFarland]

No, Junaid......

I'm the Psychology Major, you're the Network Programmer.....

Let me do my thing, you do yours, negro.

I don't have an addictive personality, never have, despite all possible temptations and compromising scenarios.

I suppose lifting heavy weight, or specifically the euphoria I get from it would be my sole addiction.

Feel this.



DIV

Luke Skywalker: "I won't fail you. I'm not afraid."
Yoda: "You will be. You will be."

[chafed_nut_sack420]

I don't have an addictive personality.

I've used Oxycodone before for some dental surgery, and I used the entire prescription and yes it was a nice mellow high, but not something I was driven to take after my script was tapped out.

Same with alcohol, I can get smashed once or twice per year, but other than that I don't drink at all.........save a few glasses of red wine with dinner.

It's all about genetic predisposition.

I've never been addicted to anything, for me it's always been about choice.





DIV

Your using 2 examples of drugs and you hardly have much experience with other drugs, (from what I gather, maybe I missed something?), so your basing your opinion on assumptions rather then fact.

If you were to use cocaine every weekend because you chose to at the beginning of your drug experience, I can almost gaurantee you that you will become an addict, either long term or short term, if you kept that routine up for a few months. The drug does something on a chemical level that is stronger than your will or "mental strength".

Your potential addiction might not even be cocaine related but may be another drug and maybe not at the beginning but over time.

If you truly are a person without any addictive personalty, I'd say your not even human. Maybe Im wrong and if I am, you are definatly in the very, very, very, small minority.

[chafed_nut_sack420]

EXACTLY...

i DO understand Div..i really do understand your POV..however i've been on the other side ...when i first did coke i ALSO used to think...nahhh i dont have an addictive personality...

high serotonin levels...takes a strong man to say no to that...

however i've seen u talk...u happen 2 be strong willed...HOWEVER if you r the exception to the rule (ie someone that can be strong) does not mean i'm wrong about the general population

I agree with you 100%.

Luke Skywalker: "I won't fail you. I'm not afraid."
Yoda: "You will be. You will be."

lol

[McFarland]

No, Junaid......

I'm the Psychology Major, you're the Network Programmer.....

Let me do my thing, you do yours, negro.

I don't have an addictive personality, never have, despite all possible temptations and compromising scenarios.

I suppose lifting heavy weight, or specifically the euphoria I get from it would be my sole addiction.

Feel this.



DIV

"You can't understand a user's mind...
But try, with your books and degrees."

                               --Layne Staley/Alice In Chains, "Junkhead"

[Gordon_Gekko]

"You can't understand a user's mind...
But try, with your books and degrees."

                               --Layne Staley/Alice In Chains, "Junkhead"

"If you let yourself go and open your mind, I'll bet you'd be doin' like me (and it ain't so bad)..."

                            What did Staley die of (at a very young age) again?...

                               

[DIVISION]

EXACTLY...

i DO understand Div..i really do understand your POV..however i've been on the other side ...when i first did coke i ALSO used to think...nahhh i dont have an addictive personality...

high serotonin levels...takes a strong man to say no to that...

however i've seen u talk...u happen 2 be strong willed...HOWEVER if you r the exception to the rule (ie someone that can be strong) does not mean i'm wrong about the general population

Junaid, when you made that fateful decision, you crossed over in to something that I could never be a part of.  You willfully placed yourself in the crucible, a place to drown your demons, albeit perhaps subconscious in nature, demons nonetheless.

What you are, what you did.........I could never partake in.

I am on the outside looking in.....

.........and I see you.

Luke Skywalker: "I won't fail you. I'm not afraid."
Yoda: "You will be. You will be."

Darth Vader:  "Luke......did Obi-wan ever tell you who your father was?"
Luke Skywalker:  "He said you killed him"
Darth Vader:  "Luke........I.....am.... .your father" 
Luke Skywalker:   

If you truly are a person without any addictive personalty, I'd say your not even human. Maybe Im wrong and if I am, you are definatly in the very, very, very, small minority.

RawNutsack,

I am barely human.  I'm icy cold inside.  That is why I can analyze people so succinctly.  It's less about seeing people as human, more about seeing them as byproducts of their environment PLUS genetic predisposition.

Nature/Nurture on a whole 'nother level.

"You can't understand a user's mind...
But try, with your books and degrees."

                               --Layne Staley/Alice In Chains, "Junkhead"

"Why worry?  Hope to God get me high when I'm buried.  Knowing deep inside only a few love me.  Rush me to the gates of heaven, let me picture for awhile how I lived from my days as a child......."

                              --Makaveli (Tupac Shakur), "Hold Ya' Head"   

What did Staley die of (at a very young age) again?...

"Meet me at the cemetary dressed in black.  Tonight we honor the dead, those who won't be back.  If I die, do the same for me, shed no tears.  An outlaw, thug livin' in the game for years."





DIV

[chafed_nut_sack420]

Junaid, when you made that fateful decision, you crossed over in to something that I could never be a part of.  You willfully placed yourself in the crucible, a place to drown your demons, albeit perhaps subconscious in nature, demons nonetheless.

What you are, what you did.........I could never partake in.

I am on the outside looking in.....

.........and I see you.

Uhm, theres also the physical addiction. Its not always pyschological addiction. Its not always about self medicating because of some past trauma.

People dont only drink because they want to drown demons, they drink cause its Spring Break and they are in Florida. They do lines of blow because thats the thing to do in that setting and not because the persons father raped them. That exposure to the body can trigger a physical addiction that can happen to anyone. I think your being too sure of yourself when you say it (addiction), will  never happen to you, not that Im asking you to go out, buy some cocaine and test that.

[DIVISION]

Uhm, theres also the physical addiction. Its not always pyschological addiction. Its not always about self medicating because of some past trauma.

People dont only drink because they want to drown demons, they drink cause its Spring Break and they are in Florida. They do lines of blow because thats the thing to do in that setting and not because the persons father raped them. That exposure to the body can trigger a physical addiction that can happen to anyone. I think your being too sure of yourself when you say it (addiction), will  never happen to you, not that Im asking you to go out, buy some cocaine and test that.

I'm well aware of both the physiological and psychological components of addiction.  It's not lost on me, it's part of the base requirements of lower division Psychology curriculum. 

Regardless of the reason, addiction is not something I am prone to.

Been exposed to too many temptations over the years, and still no dice.

If you knew me you'd understand.

Addiction is just not possible for me.




DIV

[ToxicAvenger]

Junaid, when you made that fateful decision, you crossed over in to something that I could never be a part of.  You willfully placed yourself in the crucible, a place to drown your demons, albeit perhaps subconscious in nature, demons nonetheless.

What you are, what you did.........I could never partake in.

I am on the outside looking in.....

.........and I see you.

i've always taken things to the extreme..that can be good or bad...

i just didn't skydive..i coked up and then smoked weed before jumping...
in college..i didn't juuust take my calc 1 final..i took it drunk...i got a b..
i just didn't study for my CCIE written test..i HAD to make so i finished under half an hour and get over a 90...i did it!
i didn't just get into the drinking / coke counter culture...i pushed it to its extreme..to see and experience how  dark it could get...

remember me telling stella about my childhood where as a kid i'd hang off the roof of our house (3 stories up)..i used to do do out of an urge to wanna feel "what it feels like to have your life on edge..the what if factor..what if i let go..what would it feel like..what if"   a different prespective on things..and that ws when i ws 11..

..what can i say..i have my quirks..

[FreakBB7243]

I'm well aware of both the physiological and psychological components of addiction.  It's not lost on me, it's part of the base requirements of lower division Psychology curriculum. 

Regardless of the reason, addiction is not something I am prone to.

Been exposed to too many temptations over the years, and still no dice.

If you knew me you'd understand.

Addiction is just not possible for me.




DIV

And your a pysch major...oh brother...you can get addicted to opiates Div...I work in this field everyday!  I dont care how many temptations youve passed up!...you are making wise choices passing up the temptations of life but never say never...addiction is possible for you...believe that!

[SilentMethod]

TOX - I can relate!

A few 8-Balls, hotel and a filthy stripper..............I still get the tingles!!!!!

But you have to let go, sex was never the same!

[sinbad]

TOX - I can relate!

A few 8-Balls, hotel and a filthy stripper..............I still get the tingles!!!!!

But you have to let go, sex was never the same!

Now your talkin!! ahhh the good old days:) Looking back I don't regret any of the wild stuff I did, it has all been about the life experience. There seems to be a fair amount of literature these days suggesting a strong genetic component to addition, basically, either you are an addicted or you are not, but that is not to say someone who is not genetically prone to addiction can't abuse drugs or alcohol at some point in their life. There are many people who go through a destructive stage of cocaine use, only to pull out of it, and get on with their lives, while others will continue to use at any cost!

[DIVISION]

And your a pysch major...oh brother...you can get addicted to opiates Div...I work in this field everyday!  I dont care how many temptations youve passed up!...you are making wise choices passing up the temptations of life but never say never...addiction is possible for you...believe that!

NEVER.

I'll never join you.   







DIV

[michael arvilla]

FROZZ.............u keep doing coke
ill hunt ya down and break ur nose so u cant.................... .......
learn from my mistakes................ ...........
just



    say



                        NO

[Damian]

I've never done coke before. Is it like slamming 12 cappuccinos all at once?

[chafed_nut_sack420]

I've never done coke before. Is it like slamming 12 cappuccinos all at once?

No.
Its like doing coke.
 Nothing can describe the feeling.
Its like describing the color blue.

[chafed_nut_sack420]

FROZZ.............u keep doing coke
ill hunt ya down and break ur nose so u cant.................... .......
learn from my mistakes................ ...........
just



    say



                        NO

Im getting a hardon looking at this...................a ctually Im not. Damn blow! Gotta love cocaine. 

[SilentMethod]

>

[sarcasm]

NEVER.

I'll never join you.   







DIV

agreed, addicts are mentally weak.

[chafed_nut_sack420]

agreed, addicts are mentally weak.

You dont have to worry about a thing, you have to have a brain in order to damage it with drugs and that definatly puts you out of the loop.

[sarcasm]

You dont have to worry about a thing, you have to have a brain in order to damage it with drugs and that definatly puts you out of the loop.

you're saying that because you are a crack addict who used to suck dick and take it up the ass for a fix, it's OK i'd be defensive too if i were you.