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The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« on: September 11, 2013, 09:27:45 AM »
Buy big houses, cars, watches, good looking women and so on...

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Ethologists study aggression as it relates to the interaction and evolution of animals in natural settings. In such settings aggression can involve bodily contact such as biting, hitting or pushing, but most conflicts are settled by threat displays and intimidating thrusts that cause no physical harm. This form of aggression may include the display of body size, antlers, claws or teeth; stereotyped signals including facial expressions; vocalizations such as bird song; the release of chemicals; and changes in coloration.[16] The term agonistic behaviour is sometimes used to refer to these forms of behavior.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggression

everything you need to know about animal/human interactions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_%28ethology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecking_order

Women all want the alpha males and are all in competition against each others to get him/them. They all settle with the stable hard working dude in the end, for those who were conditioned to desire an offspring.

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Studies show girls’ aggressive tactics included gossip, ostracism, breaking confidences, and criticism of a victim’s clothing, appearance, or personality, whereas boys engage in aggression that involves a direct physical and/or verbal assault.[48] This could be due to the fact that girls’ frontal lobes develop earlier than boys, allowing them to self-restrain.[47]

Some studies suggest that romantic involvement in adolescence decreases aggression in males and females, but decreases at a higher rate in females. Females will seem more desirable to their mate if they fit in with society and females that are aggressive do not usually fit well in society, they can often be viewed as antisocial. Female aggression is not considered the norm in society and going against the norm can sometimes prevent one from getting a mate.[50] However, studies have shown that an increasing number of women are getting arrested for domestic violence charges. In many states, women now account for a quarter to a third of all domestic violence arrests, up from less than 10 percent a decade ago. The new statistics reflect a reality documented in research: women are perpetrators as well as victims of family violence.[51] However, another equally possible explanation is a case of improved diagnostics: it has become more acceptable for men to report female domestic violence to the authorities while at the same time actual female domestic violence has not increased at all. This can be the case when men have become less ashamed of reporting female violence against them, therefore an increasing number of women are arrested, although the actual number of violent women remains the same.

Also, males in competitive sports are often advised by their coaches not to be in intimate relationships based on the premises that they become more docile and less aggressive during an athletic event. The circumstances in which males and females experience aggression are also different. A study showed that social anxiety and stress was positively correlated with aggression in males, meaning as stress and social anxiety increases so does aggression. Furthermore, a male with higher social skills has a lower rate of aggressive behavior than a male with lower social skills. In females, higher rates of aggression were only correlated with higher rates of stress. Other than biological factors that contribute to aggression there are physical factors are well.[52]

Our so called personalities and "identities" are just a patchwork of strategies of survival.

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Re: The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2013, 09:39:15 AM »
Wikipedia is a shitty source when it comes to scientific stuff.

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Re: The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2013, 09:41:01 AM »
So how do narcissists fit into the grande scheme of things within this dominance/alpha regard?

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Re: The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2013, 09:42:59 AM »
Wikipedia is a shitty source when it comes to scientific stuff.
Huh ... they re quoting scientific sources... Fact is we are animals. Still, there's a need for spiritual guidance in order to make something out of your animal nature and to fit in a society. In atheist societies everyone has to be and act like an atheist for example, it's easier that way. Atheist societies have their own religion; atheism.  You ve got to be emotionless and to spend all your free time behind a screen, you re not suposed to reproduce  as it is "selfish". Egocentrical, materialistic atheists hence get replaced by ... religious third worlders who keep reproducing.

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Re: The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2013, 09:43:56 AM »
So how do narcissists fit into the grande scheme of things within this dominance/alpha regard?

The point of life being survival and self replication, as long as they survive and can reproduce, they d be ok i d say.

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Re: The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2013, 09:46:02 AM »
Life, the more you think about it the harder it gets, that's why "dumb" people are always happy.  :)

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Re: The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2013, 09:51:39 AM »
I prefer your original work, uberman.  "Girls and sons" was a veritable classic

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Re: The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2013, 09:55:50 AM »
I prefer your original work, uberman.  "Girls and sons" was a veritable classic

It's not my work, I'm just cutting and pasting links.

this one should be interesting for anabolic homo:

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Paternal bond/ Fatherhood

The father of a child can develop the bond during the pregnancy of his partner, feeling attachment to the developing child. Research indicates that this may have some biological basis.[3] Statistics show that fathers' levels of testosterone tend to decline several months before the birth of the child. Since high testosterone levels seem to encourage more aggressive behaviour[citation needed], low levels may enhance the ability to develop a new relationship bond (i.e. with the child).[4]

Fathers find many ways to strengthen the father-child bond with their children, such as soothing, consoling, feeding (expressed breast milk, infant formula, or baby food), changing diapers, bathing, dressing, playing, and cuddling. Carrying the infant in a sling or backpack or pushing him or her in a baby transport can build the bond, as can participating in the baby's bedtime routine.

My theory the natural decrease of testosterone in early 30s has the purpose to help taking care of kids and that steroid/testosterone use is abnormal just got proved.
Now can men use steroids to be able to face the competition of younger aggressive males threatening their place at work while raising a family is another interesting question.

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Re: The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2013, 10:07:31 AM »
Buy big houses, cars, watches, good looking women and so on...

Ethology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggression

everything you need to know about animal/human interactions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_%28ethology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecking_order

Women all want the alpha males and are all in competition against each others to get him/them. They all settle with the stable hard working dude in the end, for those who were conditioned to desire an offspring.
Our so called personalities and "identities" are just a patchwork of strategies of survival.

After reading this, I'm in the market for some antlers to wear.

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Re: The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2013, 10:14:14 AM »
In this article we explore why true anus prefer to have easy to control pets instead of kids, probably because something went wrong in his childhood.

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Human–animal bonding
Main articles: Pet and Anthrozoology

Human–animal bond: human to animal contact is known to reduce the physiological characteristics of stress.

The human–animal bond can be defined as a connection between people and animals, domestic or wild; be it a cat as a pet or birds outside one's window. Research into the nature and merit of the human–animal bond began in the late 18th century when, in York, England, the Society of Friends established The Retreat to provide humane treatment for the mentally ill. By having patients care for the many farm animals on the estate, society officials theorized that the combination of animal contact plus productive work would facilitate the patients' rehabilitation. In the 1870s in Paris, a French surgeon had patients with neurological disorders ride horses. The patients were found to have improved their motor control and balance and were less likely to suffer bouts of depression.[15]

In the 19th century, in Bielefeld, Germany, epileptic patients were given the prescription to spend time each day taking care of cats and dogs. The contact with the animals was found to reduce the occurrence of seizures. In 1980, a team of scientists at the University of Pennsylvania found that human to animal contact was found to reduce the physiological characteristics of stress; specifically, lowered levels of blood pressure, heart rate, respiratory rate, anxiety, and tension were all found to correlate positively with human–pet bonding.[15]

Historically, animals were domesticated for functional use; for example, dogs for herding and tracking, and cats for killing mice or rats. Today, in Western societies, their function is primarily bonding. For example, current studies show that 60–80% of dogs sleep with their owners at night in the bedroom, either in or on the bed.[16] Moreover, in the past the majority of cats were kept outside (barn cats) whereas today most cats are kept indoors (housecats) and considered part of the family. Currently, in the US, for example, 1.2 billion animals are kept as pets, primarily for bonding purposes.[16] In addition, as of 1995 there were over 30 research institutions looking into the potential benefits of the human–animal bond.[15]

Oh and an oldie but goodie:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachment_theory

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Re: The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2013, 10:20:49 AM »
In this article we explore why a true anus like me prefers to have easy to control pets instead of kids, probably because something went wrong in my childhood.

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Re: The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2013, 10:22:08 AM »
In this article we explore why true anus prefer to have easy to control pets instead of kids, probably because something went wrong in his childhood.

Oh and an oldie but goodie:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachment_theory

I think that he's very asocial in real life and tries to make himself feel better by claiming everyone else is a "moron" thus implying he doesn't want to have any kind of connection with others.

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Re: The definitive answer as to why men lift weights...
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2013, 10:23:22 AM »
I think that he's very asocial in real life and tries to make himself feel better by claiming everyone else is a "moron" thus implying he doesn't want to have any kind of connection with others.