We have a young guy at our gym.....he holds the world record in bench

[The Scott]

Bench shirts, like drugs, are cheating. And if your back is arched like the one in St. Louis?    

[Mawse]

I got over 200 lb from my bench shirt after only a few months,just a regular permabulker with a 455 raw bench pressing 700 with a super katana in the gym.. So i don't think a world record holder only gets 50lbs out of his bench shirt.

Drug free, not likely. But this guy also believes every juiced up liar is really natural, wants to believe he can do it too...he's in for a surprise when in a year of lifting he looks like a soccer player at best.

[Eric]

I got over 200 lb from my bench shirt after only a few months,just a regular permabulker with a 455 raw bench pressing 700 with a super katana in the gym.. So i don't think a world record holder only gets 50lbs out of his bench shirt.

Drug free, not likely. But this guy also believes every juiced up liar is really natural, wants to believe he can do it too...he's in for a surprise when in a year of lifting he looks like a soccer player at best.

and lifts like one too. Power lifters are rarely ever natural. Even usapl they test and it doesn't matter you can beat a drug test it's not hard. Anyway the lift is impressive. He's on gear in a shirt prob triple ply denim but still impressive.

[240 is Back]

If it aint raw it dont count.

My sofa pulls out, but I dont.

[Sherief Shalaby]

how does his chest look?

damn this nu,mber is hard to believe,this is a 60kg twinko benching 220kgs.

damn this actualy sounds impossible

possible with the bench shirt.. (since we are talking about the WORLD champion)..

[dj181]

Good thread Tedim 

500lbs at 130lbs--all natural, of course.  Only just started using creatine, so look out!

 

[Sherief Shalaby]

the champ of the under 74 kg in egypt can do 220 kg with the bench shirt but he is not natural..in egypt the judges are very strict and dont allow any bouncing.. the head and the ass and the feet must not move up 1 mm.. also there is  a stop at the bottom position so you cant press till the judge allows you..

[Van_Bilderass]

445 raw? Lol bullshit.

A lot of these shirt masters are actually really weak.
I know one guy, 1 board presses 660, about 550 in comp. Can hardly bench 350lbs... as in a real bench. This is a national champion, placed high internationally... competes at about 200lbs. He is natural for sure though. Not a muscle in sight, can't tell he even trains.

[deceiver]

Lol no.

 no one only gets 50lbs from a shirt, even the weakest single ply gives you 100lbs, 200 for a good single ply shirt.

Even strongest guys I know, world champs, get no more than 100-120lbs from shirt.

[Van_Bilderass]

you can beat a drug test it's not hard.

It's actually very hard. If there's lots of out of comp testing like in Sweden... forget about it. You can beat it if lucky and not tested.

[deceiver]

It's actually very hard. If there's lots of out of comp testing like in Sweden... forget about it. You can beat it if lucky and not tested.

Hrt dose test (not enough to distort epitest/test ratio), GH, insulin... You come off every other drug 6 weeks out.

It's really simple man. And some guys can run 400mg/week while maintaining good ratio. This is more than enough to keep your strength.

[deceiver]

The rules of powerlifting should be changed for the bench press.

The bench should be performed like the squat:

The bar is lowered under control until the upper arms hit parallel, then pressed with minimal pause. No bouncing of the chest allowed.

These rules would get rid of the back arching.

Totally unrealistic unless they use high fps cameras.

[Sherief Shalaby]

The rules of powerlifting should be changed for the bench press.

The bench should be performed like the squat:

The bar is lowered under control until the upper arms hit parallel, then pressed with minimal pause (no press command required). No bouncing off the chest allowed.

These rules would get rid of the back arching.

and before this they must forbid the stupid shirts..

[deceiver]

It works for the squat

Have you ever actually competed?

Legs are bigger. They are more "out in the open". It is way easier to judge depth of the squat and it is still very controversial. I've seen situations where same guy did exactly same depth on two subsequent attempts (proven by the video, he has very good technique, his squat ALWAYS looks the same) and first attempt was good lift, second one red lighted.

[Mawse]

Even strongest guys I know, world champs, get no more than 100-120lbs from shirt.

They need a new shirt then.  

You do know Mendelsson got 300 out of his? And nearly 400 in the gym?

Ryan Kennelly 300+?

Or mark bell, the guy who designed the super katana gets 200 out of his? Single ply?

Gene ryschlack?

Tiny meeker hit nearly 1200 "drug free" in the gym.

[Van_Bilderass]

Hrt dose test (not enough to distort epitest/test ratio), GH, insulin... You come off every other drug 6 weeks out.

It's really simple man. And some guys can run 400mg/week while maintaining good ratio. This is more than enough to keep your strength.

Yeah and what about the out of comp tests?

And what if they decide to employ the isotope test? And ratio will be fucked for 6 out of 10 on 200mg test.

[BigCyp]

LOL @ bench shirts

You may as well allow hydraulic arm levers for fucks sake.

If you can only bench 400 pounds in a t-shirt, then you can only bench 400 pounds. By putting on a 'bench shirt' that basically lowers the weight of what your 'pressing' so that it's still 400 pounds that you're pressing as usual - whats the point!!!!

[Irongrip400]

must not be raw

Fuck a condom. But, do you still pull out?

[BigCyp]

Fuck a condom. But, do you still pull out?

No need, he is yet to receive a call from an impregnated goat for child support

[Tedim]

He also holds the World Record for 123 for 413 raw yes raw

2 world records before he was 26

Best in the world

[thebrink]

impossible.

[Thick Nick]

Lol no.

 no one only gets 50lbs from a shirt, even the weakest single ply gives you 100lbs, 200 for a good single ply shirt.

No it doesn't lol.

[Tedim]

I was wrong....

He has 3 official world records before the age of 25....

412lbs @ 123 with single ply

501 @ 132 with single ply

401 @ 141 RAW

And he has lifted unofficially during practice 515 single ply at 141 and 425 raw 148....hope this helps. He's not currently competing but will be. 

[oldtimer1]

The bench is a really poor illustration of strength. First they bring their feet back so they can curl up their upper body to cut the range of motion. Then they inflate their chest on top of that bringing the bar to the highest elevation of their chest. They take as wide a grip that will be effective to further cut down the range of motion. Put on a straight jacket bench shirt to push a bar 12 inches with your elbows at your side.

In all seriousness I would like to see if many of these bench wonders can do 70 perfect push ups through a full range of motion? I bet many could not.

I like Olympic lifting. Take the bar from the floor and put it over head. No question who has the most power and strength. Many 400lbs benchers can't clean and jerk 300lbs.

[crownshep]

No it doesn't lol.

Looks like Mawse was right if you look at the numbers tedim has just posted,this guy at his heaviest was down 100lbs benching raw compared to single ply.