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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2013, 02:34:20 AM »

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2013, 08:02:44 AM »
The liberals are really trying...

Whoever wrote and approved this book needs to be publically hanged

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2013, 11:56:13 AM »
I really respect American Amendments  ;) & I am little bit jealous  :-\

I really respect Australian Beaches  ;) & I am little bit jealous  :-\

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2013, 12:28:34 PM »
Didn't Texas make the news a couple of years ago when a bunch of fundies on the Texas Board of Education approved curriculum and books with a conservative republican skew ?

http://www.npr.org/2012/06/20/155440679/revisionaries-tells-story-of-texas-textbook-battle

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2013, 01:05:23 PM »
Yeah but.....text books should be pro American, especially at the grammar school level. They should teach kids civic responsibility and love of country. Once you get to college you can dig into the reasons behind certain things. The libs tend to like to shit all over patriotism because they hate the country. Yeah...I believe u bastards hate America...but I digress ;D.......teaching darwinism is fine...teaching that there exists alternative theories without going into details is fine as well.  I thing anything deeply rooted in science should trump anything spiritual...if you're in a science class. Kids should be taught the basics....all the other BS that's taught, needs to be dumped. I don't care about little jonny's feelings...little jonny needs to be able to count, spell, read, write and have a basic foundation in athletics. He needs to know there are winners and loosers...losing sucks...hard work helps you win and we don't need anymore lawyers so pay attention in math class.
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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2013, 01:11:41 PM »
Did the "fundies" approve books that blatantly changed the WORDING of any of the amendments.

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2013, 01:42:34 PM »
Yeah but.....text books should be pro American, especially at the grammar school level. They should teach kids civic responsibility and love of country. Once you get to college you can dig into the reasons behind certain things. The libs tend to like to shit all over patriotism because they hate the country. Yeah...I believe u bastards hate America...but I digress ;D.......teaching darwinism is fine...teaching that there exists alternative theories without going into details is fine as well.  I thing anything deeply rooted in science should trump anything spiritual...if you're in a science class. Kids should be taught the basics....all the other BS that's taught, needs to be dumped. I don't care about little jonny's feelings...little jonny needs to be able to count, spell, read, write and have a basic foundation in athletics. He needs to know there are winners and loosers...losing sucks...hard work helps you win and we don't need anymore lawyers so pay attention in math class.
Another great post

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2013, 09:28:49 PM »
Yeah but.....text books should be pro American, especially at the grammar school level. They should teach kids civic responsibility and love of country. Once you get to college you can dig into the reasons behind certain things. The libs tend to like to shit all over patriotism because they hate the country. Yeah...I believe u bastards hate America...but I digress ;D.......teaching darwinism is fine...teaching that there exists alternative theories without going into details is fine as well.  I thing anything deeply rooted in science should trump anything spiritual...if you're in a science class. Kids should be taught the basics....all the other BS that's taught, needs to be dumped. I don't care about little jonny's feelings...little jonny needs to be able to count, spell, read, write and have a basic foundation in athletics. He needs to know there are winners and loosers...losing sucks...hard work helps you win and we don't need anymore lawyers so pay attention in math class.
Great post...

It pisses me off that the progressives/liberals/democrats/radicals/whetever the fuck traitor pieces of shit decry instilling a sense of pride, dignity, and loyalty to ones country as propoganda and indoctrination, but then in the same fucking breath will cheer on books like this, where the author completely re-writes a document to try and revise history to a generation of children that have no idea they're being lied to.

But thats not propaganda or indoctrination... no, its only propaganda to teach children to love their country and embrace their constitution. Having them learn from a textbook that literally re-writes the text of the bill of rights, that not propaganda at all.....

At that age, they should be being taught nothing but the facts, and being instilled with a love of country, and to embrace their constitution and bill of rights.... the ideas in those documents are things that everyone can and should embrace.

Later, as adults, they can go back and learn the sordid, dirty underbelly of our history and decide how it aligns with their moral compass. But re-writing these documents to try and misdirect and shift the political climate of an entire generation of children is fucking morally wrong.

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2013, 10:54:17 PM »
Having them learn from a textbook that literally re-writes the text of the bill of rights, that not propaganda at all.....

 ::) The sentence immediately preceding the first amendment says "here is a summary of the rights guaranteed in each amendment." So, yeah, typically when educational materials summarize things , they "literally re-write" whatever it is that is being summarized. Whether or not you agree with the book's interpretation is one thing, but that's a debate that has been going on for more than two centuries. What isn't up for debate is that this is just another situation where certain factions on the right are looking for an excuse to get their panties all  knotted up.

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2013, 11:38:36 PM »
I really respect Australian Beaches  ;) & I am little bit jealous  :-\
-Manly Daily (my local papers) today :
-Cover: A cormorant found at Narrabeen Lagoon died from pellet gun wounds
-page 5:Surfer dies despite 'exceptional' lifesaving efforts
-p 7: Warning over close encounters with dolphin
-p 8:drunk women fined $ 720 for behaving offensively in public (biggest crime this week)

Just boooring :D

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2013, 01:44:04 AM »
-Manly Daily (my local papers) today :
-Cover: A cormorant found at Narrabeen Lagoon died from pellet gun wounds
-page 5:Surfer dies despite 'exceptional' lifesaving efforts
-p 7: Warning over close encounters with dolphin
-p 8:drunk women fined $ 720 for behaving offensively in public (biggest crime this week)

Just boooring :D

News Herald (my local paper) today:

-Fire, Police host Community Safety Day
-City passes $46.6M budget
-Two caught in ID fraud, theft, pot
-Road improvements to close Roads
-Planning Commission approves Islamic Center
-Nature Center receives $100K check
-City awarded $15M water plant loan
-mixed-use project denied

Just a little less boooring than yours  :D

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2013, 04:24:40 AM »
::) The sentence immediately preceding the first amendment says "here is a summary of the rights guaranteed in each amendment." So, yeah, typically when educational materials summarize things , they "literally re-write" whatever it is that is being summarized. Whether or not you agree with the book's interpretation is one thing, but that's a debate that has been going on for more than two centuries. What isn't up for debate is that this is just another situation where certain factions on the right are looking for an excuse to get their panties all  knotted up.
I don't pay attention to school text books but I've never seen a text book "summarize" a sentence in which you make the summary longer than the summarized text and alter the meaning of it...

If this had said that marriage is between a man and a woman or some other left hot button I'm sure we would have heard about it.

This is a blatant mischarecterization of the second ammendment, and we shouldn't be summarizing, paraphrasing or otherwise editing our constitutional rights

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2013, 04:46:16 AM »
I don't pay attention to school text books
Yeah, this is pretty obvious. I, along with a few other board members, have pointed this out and wonder why you insist on trying to pass yourself off as educated.

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but I've never seen a text book "summarize" a sentence in which you make the summary longer than the summarized text and alter the meaning of it...

The second amendment has 27 words in it. The summary in that text book has 14 words. 14 is less than 27. I know you don't pay attention to text books, but that's kindergarten math right thurr.

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If this had said that marriage is between a man and a woman or some other left hot button I'm sure we would have heard about it.

This is a blatant mischarecterization of the second ammendment, and we shouldn't be summarizing, paraphrasing or otherwise editing our constitutional rights


Yes. Yes we should. It is fucking imperative. I know a retard like you who lies about getting his phd has no understanding of how studying or learning works, but textbooks  are supposed to take concepts, explain them and make them accessible. Regardless of how much a pweshus, little flower like you ends up twisting and politicizing it, the Bill of Rights is not so fragile as to be incapable of withstanding being explained or discussed. What next? Not speaking it aloud? Never looking directly at a printed copy?

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2013, 06:21:13 AM »

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2013, 03:02:54 PM »
lol @ getting bent out of shape because someone changed an amendment...

Yeah, completely manipulating the meaning of Constitutional Amendments in the minds of our future leaders is no biggie...  :D

Total overreaction 


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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2013, 04:06:33 PM »
The second amendment has 27 words in it. The summary in that text book has 14 words. 14 is less than 27. I know you don't pay attention to text books, but that's kindergarten math right thurr.
touche, does summarizing also include misrepresenting the summarized text? why did you not address this point?

Yes. Yes we should. It is fucking imperative. I know a retard like you who lies about getting his phd has no understanding of how studying or learning works, but textbooks  are supposed to take concepts, explain them and make them accessible. Regardless of how much a pweshus, little flower like you ends up twisting and politicizing it, the Bill of Rights is not so fragile as to be incapable of withstanding being explained or discussed. What next? Not speaking it aloud? Never looking directly at a printed copy?
LMFAO whatever I did to make you so butt hurt must have been epic!!!

never said I have a phd, I do however have an MBA...along with a great job

Debating and discussing something is great, its one of the things that makes this country great. Please tell me where mischaracterizing the 2nd ammendment falls into discussing it?


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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2013, 04:22:35 PM »
touche, does summarizing also include misrepresenting the summarized text? why did you not address this point?
I did address the point. Whether or not you agree with the interpretation, it's a debate that has been going on for centuries, literally. I wouldn't even take a second glance if you nitwits just left it at pointing out the book is wrong, but of course you right-wing banshees have to turn it in to a a political atrocity that will cripple the nation. It was a quickie summary in a study guide, it was not an essay weighing the political complexities of the right to bear arms.

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LMFAO whatever I did to make you so butt hurt must have been epic!!!
You haven't made anyone butt hurt. What you have done is consistently displayed that you are the dumbest person to ever use the internet. That would not be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that you repeatedly try to portray yourself as some type of academic. 90% of your posts read like something a monkey typed with its butt. The only thing epic about them is their stupidity.

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never said I have a phd, I do however have an MBA...along with a great job

Debating and discussing something is great, its one of the things that makes this country great. Please tell me where mischaracterizing the 2nd ammendment falls into discussing it?

You are retarded.

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2013, 04:24:32 PM »

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2013, 04:36:48 PM »
Yeah, completely manipulating the meaning of Constitutional Amendments in the minds of our future leaders is no biggie...  :D

Total overreaction  



But it was OK to amend the constitution in the first place?

Why is it that changes made more than a hundred years ago ok but changes made today aren't?

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2013, 04:44:02 PM »
But it was OK to amend the constitution in the first place?

Why is it that changes made more than a hundred years ago ok but changes made today aren't?
I know my problem with this is that I see it as a way for them to re-write history in the minds of a generation of children. Think about it... if kids grow up not knowing they have been guaranteed the right as citizens to bear arms, they aren't going to fight for it when it's taken from them.

Clearly they can't actually get it through normal legislation... so they'll just erase it from the history books... after all, if it's forgotten about by only a couple generations... it's like it never existed at all.

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2013, 04:44:21 PM »
But it was OK to amend the constitution in the first place?

Why is it that changes made more than a hundred years ago ok but changes made today aren't?
the change a hundred years ago went through a predetermined process and was voted by elected officials who had responsibilities to their constituents. It was debated and discussed before the changes were made and when the finally were made, the changes were done so in the correct arena.

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2013, 04:52:16 PM »
I know my problem with this is that I see it as a way for them to re-write history in the minds of a generation of children. Think about it... if kids grow up not knowing they have been guaranteed the right as citizens to bear arms, they aren't going to fight for it when it's taken from them.

This is truly idiotic.

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2013, 04:55:38 PM »
This is truly idiotic.
Yeah, well, thats like, your opinion, dickhead.

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Re: Texas School using AP Text Book That Changes 2nd Amendment
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2013, 05:00:19 PM »
Yeah, well, thats like, your opinion, dickhead.

No, it's a fact. It's not an opinion.What you posted was truly idiotic.