Anti Prolactin.

[IZO]

Hey


have done some reading about prolactin related side effects when Tren and Deca is used.
I will soon start my first cycle with Trenbolone E, Test and Dbol.
Wondering whether it is necessary to use anti-prolactins like Dostinex and Bromocriptine when Test is included in cycle?

Also wonder how many of you experienced Tren and Deca users had any problems with prolactin-sides, and what was working best for  Dostinex, Bromocriptine, Prami.

Thanks.

[trengrowth]

Alright brother.... First and foremost, if you do not add in test then you will not get any prolactin sides.... Typically, there must be estrogen involved for prolactin build up...

Now, if you are set on keeping test in the mix, keep test low. And i have personally used cabergoline and love it. Some people think prami is better for prolactin. But caber did the job for me..

At my highest, i was on over a gram of Tren a week. I was doing 350 tren A and 600 Tren E EW... During this i was using 1/2 mg on monday and friday. Whilst i used NO MORE THAN 400 mg of Test C. And that is a lot of test to be using... I recommend keeping it around 200 mg per week... and try to stick with short esters if you can.

Anyways 1/2 mg of caber every 3-4 days should do it.

[Borracho]

Alright brother.... First and foremost, if you do not add in test then you will not get any prolactin sides.... Typically, there must be estrogen involved for prolactin build up...

Now, if you are set on keeping test in the mix, keep test low. And i have personally used cabergoline and love it. Some people think prami is better for prolactin. But caber did the job for me..

At my highest, i was on over a gram of Tren a week. I was doing 350 tren A and 600 Tren E EW... During this i was using 1/2 mg on monday and friday. Whilst i used NO MORE THAN 400 mg of Test C. And that is a lot of test to be using... I recommend keeping it around 200 mg per week... and try to stick with short esters if you can.

Anyways 1/2 mg of caber every 3-4 days should do it.

I wouldn't believe this.

Who knows how you'll react....no one can tell you so do keep a dopamine agonist like cabergoline on hand. I had to resort to it for npp prolactin sides and my test dose was almost non existent.

Personally, I would run the tren on its own or with a tiny bit of test at first to see what happens....that way you know what's doing what.

[IZO]

Thanks guys.

The plan was to run around 500mg Test Weekly+250mg Tren E, would it maybe be better to run 150mg Test+300mg Tren Weekly to start with??
My previous cycles was only Test E+ Dbol, and i had no problems, never used any AIs, was on 500mg+ Test weekly .
I have been off for 1 mont now and planing to start the cycle 1 October.
I would maybe be better to do a blood sample before the cycle to check test,estradiol, progrestin levels(:

[trengrowth]

I wouldn't believe this.

Who knows how you'll react....no one can tell you so do keep a dopamine agonist like cabergoline on hand. I had to resort to it for npp prolactin sides and my test dose was almost non existent.

Personally, I would run the tren on its own or with a tiny bit of test at first to see what happens....that way you know what's doing what.

You wouldnt believe this?? Why? I ran tren for 10 months straight without any prolactin sides until added in test around month 5-6ish.. and even then it took over a month for them to even begin. Then i added in some caber for obvious reasons...

Yes, I agree. Some people react differently... But MOST PEOPLE wont get prolactin sides as long as they dont have any estrogen problems...

TG

[trengrowth]

What are your stats???

BF%
Height
Weight

et cetera...

[IZO]

BF: around 9%
Height: 1.82 cm
Weight: 87.5 kg

1 .Cycle was Test P, 100mg eod 8 weeks
2. Test E 500mg weekly, 250mg weekly,+ Dbol 6 weeks on, 6-10 weeks off then start again. Have been on Test E for 8 months, now i did 1 month off.

[Borracho]

You wouldnt believe this?? Why? I ran tren for 10 months straight without any prolactin sides until added in test around month 5-6ish.. and even then it took over a month for them to even begin. Then i added in some caber for obvious reasons...

Yes, I agree. Some people react differently... But MOST PEOPLE wont get prolactin sides as long as they dont have any estrogen problems...

TG

Because I don't think its good to give advice based on ones personal experiences. Some would say op would have no issues with the low dose tren he's planning on but there's guys here that have. At the end of the day its his body and no one here will send him money for a gyno operation or cialis to bang dirty girls if he needs it.

And I've heard the theory that estrogen is required in order for prolactin to cause breast tissue growth but I don't buy it. Guys run ai's to avoid tren/deca gyno/bloat etc and it doesn't work for all...

[Dago_Joe]

I wouldn't add anti-pro if you haven't noticed any growth in the breast.  I used quite a bit of tren and test together and never had any tit issues.  Other than not gettin enough of the female ones in my hands and mouth   
I would back the tren dose down if i noticed a problem. 

[IZO]

 

I have never used AIs during cycle, 500mg+ Test weekly and dbol never had any problems with estrogen related side effects, just very little bloat but that also depends on my diet.
I would prefer to avoid anti-pro and AIs since i cycle year round, if i react bad on TREN i will just go off and continue with TEST+Dbol!!

I read that it can help to add Winstrol and also Vitamin B6!!!
what are your opinions on this??

[Borracho]

I have never used AIs during cycle, 500mg+ Test weekly and dbol never had any problems with estrogen related side effects, just very little bloat but that also depends on my diet.
I would prefer to avoid anti-pro and AIs since i cycle year round, if i react bad on TREN i will just go off and continue with TEST+Dbol!!

I read that it can help to add Winstrol and also Vitamin B6!!!
what are your opinions on this??

Studies have shown vitamin b6 can lower prolactin levels. I've used it on a low dose of npp and it helped...the winstrol I have no clue.

[AbrahamG]

Hey


have done some reading about prolactin related side effects when Tren and Deca is used.
I will soon start my first cycle with Trenbolone E, Test and Dbol.
Wondering whether it is necessary to use anti-prolactins like Dostinex and Bromocriptine when Test is included in cycle?

Also wonder how many of you experienced Tren and Deca users had any problems with prolactin-sides, and what was working best for  Dostinex, Bromocriptine, Prami.

Thanks.

If you get prolactin sides, just have your girlfriend suck your tits nightly before bed.  50% of the time, it works all the time.

[IZO]

If you get prolactin sides, just have your girlfriend suck your tits nightly before bed.  50% of the time, it works all the time.

Great

[IZO]

Studies have shown vitamin b6 can lower prolactin levels. I've used it on a low dose of npp and it helped...the winstrol I have no clue.

How many Mg B6 did you use, read that around 200-300mg will work fine, but also lead to sleep problems.

[Borracho]

How many Mg B6 did you use, read that around 200-300mg will work fine, but also lead to sleep problems.

Can't remember...all I know is I took 3 tablets a day whatever mg they come in. Didn't have any problems with the b6...I've read too much over long period can cause nerve damage but I'm sure the dopamine agonists can be much much worse.