2013 Olympia - Jason Cutler 5 days out!!!

[Frank Clairmonte]

[Danimal77]

I just don't see the wow factor with Jay. Not like when you look at Phil. When you look at the comparison pic posted here when Jay was young he was so much better in his early years.

But he's a real pro and you never know for sure what he will bring come show time.
I'm rooting for him. I just hope either he or Kai beat Phil.

I've NEVER seen the wow factor in Jay. He would not have been able to hold a candle to the best the 90's had to offer and I'm referring to PEAK Jay. Even then, he would have been 2nd or 3rd tier to guys like Levrone, Coleman, Yates, Ray, Haney, Wheeler, Labrada, Cormier, Sonbaty, Taylor, Dillett. Imo, even guys like Charles Claimonte, Mike Francois, Sonny Schmidt, Dennis James, Lee Priest and others from that time were better than the best Jay ever was. He only looked good in his prime because there was no one else around him who was TOP caliber anymore. FACT.

[Danimal77]

WATCH THE FUCKING INTERVIEW YOU IGNORANT COCK HOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, those 2 videos combined are 70 fucking minutes. Do you think people have the time to sit through an an hour and a half of listening to 2 guys who can barely string a sentence together? The least you could do is tell people at what point in the 2 part interview that we hear Ronnie say what it is you want us to hear him say for fucks sake.

[webcake]

Not sure about Jay's hair...I've seen it better.

[njflex]

I've NEVER seen the wow factor in Jay. He would not have been able to hold a candle to the best the 90's had to offer and I'm referring to PEAK Jay. Even then, he would have been 2nd or 3rd tier to guys like Levrone, Coleman, Yates, Ray, Haney, Wheeler, Labrada, Cormier, Sonbaty, Taylor, Dillett. Imo, even guys like Charles Claimonte, Mike Francois, Sonny Schmidt, Dennis James, Lee Priest and others from that time were better than the best Jay ever was. He only looked good in his prime because there was no one else around him who was TOP caliber anymore. FACT.

CUTLER turned pro 96 and was moving up by 99 in show's and that's in line with some of theses pro's who were still looking there prime best,dosen't mean cutler was better but he deserved to be on stage with them.

[yates fan]

so hopefully jay can repeat his 09 shape.

[Big Chiro Flex]

In the lead up to the 2009 Mr O, Jay looked smaller than normal too.

Right now, Jay needs to be eating: lean fish, sweet potatoes & brown rice like his life depended on it.

Don't forget the fats too.

[240 is Back]

In the lead up to the 2009 Mr O, Jay looked smaller than normal too.

Right now, Jay needs to be eating: lean fish, sweet potatoes & brown rice like his life depended on it.

Jay is reading getbig while eating, at this very minute, i'd bet.  He's laughing at the haters.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

cutler strikes me as more of a gh guy.

Well, he's a super beta and he loves having his prostate stroked.

[Royalty]

since he is trying to keep the waist as slim as possible, Im sure he has found a way to combat it.

I doubt that he will spill over because he is deflated right now. He will inflate back up and stop when his people say so.

But...

If Jay see's his midsection start to get destended during the carb-up... he will hit the heavy laxatives and correct the problem.

[Coach is Back!]

Carb up? He's already carbing up, every time he takes a shot of insulin. I'd rather be a little smaller and shredded than bigger and smoother. This entire industry and it's followers have lost the concept of what bodybuilding is supposed to be. This is why the industry has gone to the shitter. It's officially a circus act.

[Trapper_Slapper]

Carb up? He's already carbing up, every time he takes a shot of insulin. I'd rather be a little smaller and shredded than bigger and smoother. This entire industry and it's followers have lost the concept of what bodybuilding is supposed to be. This is why the industry has gone to the shitter. It's officially a circus act.

Preach on Hebrew brother Coach!

[Royalty]

Carb up? He's already carbing up, every time he takes a shot of insulin. I'd rather be a little smaller and shredded than bigger and smoother. This entire industry and it's followers have lost the concept of what bodybuilding is supposed to be. This is why the industry has gone to the shitter. It's officially a circus act.

Right. A little under is better than a little over.

My point was that Jay looks overly depleted.... going up in weight will not hurt him. It will just give him more muscle roundness. Plus his muscles will "jump" a little more after he fills back up

[Van_Bilderass]

My point was that Jay looks overly depleted.... going up in weight will not hurt him.

How do you figure he will go up in weight when he is on diuretics, restricting water and will take a loop diuretic at the last minute?

To gain weight he would need to be hydrating.

Anyone here see a competitor gain a lot of weight the last couple of days while he is on diuretics, increasing the dose the closer he gets, restricting water etc? If Disgusted sees this maybe he can speculate on whether he thinks Jay will actually be gaining weight from now on until stage time.

[OTHstrong]

How do you figure he will go up in weight when he is on diuretics, restricting water and will take a loop diuretic at the last minute?

To gain weight he would need to be hydrating.

Anyone here see a competitor gain a lot of weight the last couple of days while he is on diuretics, increasing the dose the closer he gets, restricting water etc? If Disgusted sees this maybe he can speculate on whether he thinks Jay will actually be gaining weight from now on until stage time.

Most do gain weight as they start their diuretics on MONDAY while still depleting then by Wednesday they have most of their water gone and between WEfDNESDAY and SATURDAY they eat 15-20lb of food WHICH HALF OF THAT THEY SHIT OUT, SO THAT LEAVES A 10LB SURPLUS IN WEIGHT, while only losing by this point another 3 to 5lb of water,


so 5-7lb is possible, 15lb hell no, not happening.

OTHERS LOSE WEIGHT as they drawer their water out late while they carb load, in this case you are right, they will end up lighter not heavier, and this way requires lasix, so it really depends on the approach.

[Coach is Back!]

Judging just him in that shirt and his size, my guess is he's shredded or flat.

[Van_Bilderass]

Most do gain weight as they start their diuretics on MONDAY while still depleting then by Wednesday they have most of their water gone and between WEfDNESDAY and SATURDAY they eat 15-20lb of food WHICH HALF OF THAT THEY SHIT OUT, SO THAT LEAVES A 10LB SURPLUS IN WEIGHT, while only losing by this point another 3 to 5lb of water,


so 5-7lb is possible, 15lb hell no, not happening.

OTHERS LOSE WEIGHT as they drawer their water out late while they carb load, in this case you are right, they will end up lighter not heavier, and this way requires lasix, so it really depends on the approach.

I'm pretty sure Jay will be taking a loop diuretic. From what I've read, Aceto always restricts water as well. If Jay gains weight now it will just be food matter in the intestines. Otherwise he will have to increase water intake just before the stage (rehydrating).

Everyone I've seen compete while taking even just a potassium sparing diuretic and restricting water will lose weight during the carb up, even if going from say zero to 6-800 grams of carbs a day the last 2-3 days.
The idea with the carb load while water depleting is trying to increase the muscle glycogen which would in theory pull out a little more water out of the subcutaneous space into the muscle. But still, on the scale it's a drop in weight.

Of course, IMO, many look their absolute best the last day of depleting or after first 1-2 meals of carbs.

The 2 day show is tricky. Too long to stay very dehydrated. Will have to rehydrate after prejudging and pull water again for saturday.

[OTHstrong]

I'm pretty sure Jay will be taking a loop diuretic. From what I've read, Aceto always restricts water as well. If Jay gains weight now it will just be food matter in the intestines. Otherwise he will have to increase water intake just before the stage (rehydrating).

Everyone I've seen compete while taking even just a potassium sparing diuretic and restricting water will lose weight during the carb up, even if going from say zero to 6-800 grams of carbs a day the last 2-3 days.
The idea with the carb load while water depleting is trying to increase the muscle glycogen which would in theory pull out a little more water out of the subcutaneous space into the muscle. But still, on the scale it's a drop in weight.

Of course, IMO, many look their absolute best the last day of depleting or after first 1-2 meals of carbs.

ya maybe you are right, but does really depend on their method. I shouldn't say most and these are pros as well.

Over in my neck of the woods, we weigh the competitors the night before in the amateur divisions, of course they draw water out early because they are trying to make weight and the next day half of them are bragging about being 5lb heavier without drinking water.

and you are right he will be taking a loop diuretic for sure but remember the pic we saw of him a few days ago, he was already bone dry so I don't see him losing much more water weight.

As for 600-800 grams of carbs, no way, I say way more then that, at least double that, we are talking 260lb monsters here

[Ronnie Rep]

Jay is certainly not outsizing guy's, better to be a little depleted than spilling over!

[OTHstrong]

Jay is certainly not outsizing guy's, better to be a little depleted than spilling over!

He played his cards perfectly. Had he played the size game, Ramy would have exposed him as RAMY has everything jay has with more size, so by JAY going the shredded smaller version route he can beat RAMY on conditioning, good tactic

[musclecenter]

Jay is keeping to  carb-up now

[240 is Back]

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[Disgusted]

Everybody needs to stop speculating about what Jay is going to do next. Jay has always seems to have good luck with Chris let's just sit back and hope for the best. I personally hope Jay comes in his best and would like to see a good competitive show this year.

[axestream]

Carb up? He's already carbing up, every time he takes a shot of insulin. I'd rather be a little smaller and shredded than bigger and smoother. This entire industry and it's followers have lost the concept of what bodybuilding is supposed to be. This is why the industry has gone to the shitter. It's officially a circus act.

Amen!

[stavios]

Everybody needs to stop speculating about what Jay is going to do next. Jay has always seems to have good luck with Chris let's just sit back and hope for the best. I personally hope Jay comes in his best and would like to see a good competitive show this year.

Exactly

Jay will have one of his best showing