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Guy @ My Gym Runs 5g /Week
« on: September 24, 2013, 11:06:53 PM »
guy at my gym runs 5g of test per week and pharma grade hgh.  his physique is definitely national level npc/ifbb material.  huge and somewhere between 7-9% bf, lean.  told me he has been running 5g of test a week for awhile now.  does not care about health consequences.  has mentioned that he has a hard time getting an erection before sex.  has been using gear for years now.  

my question is...

is it necessary to run 5g of test per week, plus other shit, in order to achieve ifbb quality physique?

...5g is A LOT OF TEST!

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Re: Guy @ My Gym Runs 5g /Week
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2013, 12:18:48 AM »
guy at my gym runs 5g of test per week and pharma grade hgh.  his physique is definitely national level npc/ifbb material.  huge and somewhere between 7-9% bf, lean.  told me he has been running 5g of test a week for awhile now.  does not care about health consequences.  has mentioned that he has a hard time getting an erection before sex.  has been using gear for years now.  

my question is...

is it necessary to run 5g of test per week, plus other shit, in order to achieve ifbb quality physique?

...5g is A LOT OF TEST!

No! not necessary at all, but many people run even more than 5 grams a week not even including there HGH and insulin and other peptides and oral steroids!

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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2013, 07:09:41 AM »
No! not necessary at all, but many people run even more than 5 grams a week not even including there HGH and insulin and other peptides and oral steroids!

I used to think those kind of numbers were insane until my dosages started creeping up to the 2 gram a week mark and i was shocked at how easily i went there!  400mg of this 600 of that etc and you are in the grams range quickly.  Add in orals and you see it is easy to get to megadosing.  Not that any of this is good for health, but when your shoulders and arms are all veiny and your abs are showing without flexing and every whore you see looks supremely fuckable, well it is easy to see how guys could go to 5 grams a week especially of test.  
   That's funny too about the cock problems he is having.  I had the same thing happen when i hit 1.6 grams of test and i thought i would be a raging hard-on all the time, but damn it if little dago joe was refusing to spill his custard if you know what i mean.  Hardness was definitely not the problem, painting the target was taking hours and hours and my whore was getting a little bitchy and impatient.  Anyone else have the little guy hard as a rock but refusing to eject his cargo issue on gear?  Hope it's not just me...

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Re: Guy @ My Gym Runs 5g /Week
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2013, 07:11:42 AM »
To be a pro yea... No way around it just think he's running 5g test just think of everything else he's on ;)

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2013, 07:12:52 AM »
I used to think those kind of numbers were insane until my dosages started creeping up to the 2 gram a week mark and i was shocked at how easily i went there!  400mg of this 600 of that etc and you are in the grams range quickly.  Add in orals and you see it is easy to get to megadosing.  Not that any of this is good for health, but when your shoulders and arms are all veiny and your abs are showing without flexing and every whore you see looks supremely fuckable, well it is easy to see how guys could go to 5 grams a week especially of test. 
   That's funny to about the cock problems he is having.  I had the same thing happen when i hit 1.6 grams of test and i thought i would be a raging hard-on all the time, but damn it if little dago joe was refusing to spill his custard if you know what i mean.  Hardness was definitely not the problem, painting the target was taking hours and hours and my whore was getting a little bitchy and impatient.  Anyone else have the little guy hard as a rock but refusing to eject his cargo issue on gear?  Hope it's not just me...
Lol I sort of have a similar problem. Unless I haven't had sex for like a week or so, it takes me a while to come. I'm on 750 test c EW and 100 TNE ED. No problems getting it up and libido is high but it's taking much longer than usual to finish.

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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2013, 07:13:06 AM »
I used to think those kind of numbers were insane until my dosages started creeping up to the 2 gram a week mark and i was shocked at how easily i went there!  400mg of this 600 of that etc and you are in the grams range quickly.  Add in orals and you see it is easy to get to megadosing.  Not that any of this is good for health, but when your shoulders and arms are all veiny and your abs are showing without flexing and every whore you see looks supremely fuckable, well it is easy to see how guys could go to 5 grams a week especially of test.  
   That's funny too about the cock problems he is having.  I had the same thing happen when i hit 1.6 grams of test and i thought i would be a raging hard-on all the time, but damn it if little dago joe was refusing to spill his custard if you know what i mean.  Hardness was definitely not the problem, painting the target was taking hours and hours and my whore was getting a little bitchy and impatient.  Anyone else have the little guy hard as a rock but refusing to eject his cargo issue on gear?  Hope it's not just me...

Estro was out of wack my man

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Re: Guy @ My Gym Runs 5g /Week
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2013, 07:22:38 AM »
Estro was out of wack my man

Yeah thats what i figured.  But i never had this happen before even on a gram a week total gear.  I was using a decent amount of test so i was not thinking it was deca dick or tren dick.  Estro would make sense, thanks bro.

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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2013, 07:37:12 AM »
I've used a little over 5g's for about 8-9 months before.  I don't remember any erection issues, but i generally was moody and felt like shit all day.

I wish i would have looked like i was on 5g's.  It was at this point i realized i would never be as big as i thought i would and changed over to power lifting.

I know a bunch of guys that use more than 5g's a week and most of them are huge, but some of them you would never guess were using that much.

The part i remember the most was how puffy i looked, mainly in the face, but my entire body was so filled with water it was nuts.  Yet i still had lines and could barely see my abs.


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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2013, 09:50:57 AM »
I did short blasts of 4g and 5g. Short as in 5 weeks or so. When it was a mix of products I felt ok but when 3g test and 1.5g deca I felt like shit by the end of the 5 weeks. face bloat was bad. You don't gain much in 5 weeks FYI. But yes 1g if you've been cycling isn't going to do much, everyone has to find their sweet spot

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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2013, 12:43:09 PM »
I used to think those kind of numbers were insane until my dosages started creeping up to the 2 gram a week mark and i was shocked at how easily i went there!  400mg of this 600 of that etc and you are in the grams range quickly.  Add in orals and you see it is easy to get to megadosing.  Not that any of this is good for health, but when your shoulders and arms are all veiny and your abs are showing without flexing and every whore you see looks supremely fuckable, well it is easy to see how guys could go to 5 grams a week especially of test.  
   That's funny too about the cock problems he is having.  I had the same thing happen when i hit 1.6 grams of test and i thought i would be a raging hard-on all the time, but damn it if little dago joe was refusing to spill his custard if you know what i mean.  Hardness was definitely not the problem, painting the target was taking hours and hours and my whore was getting a little bitchy and impatient.  Anyone else have the little guy hard as a rock but refusing to eject his cargo issue on gear?  Hope it's not just me...

i use a combo of Levitra and Viagra.. like 10mg & 25-50mg.... the Levitra will have be getting spontaneous hard ons in walmart the next day or two. haha.

it's hard as hell to bust a nut when i'm on tren... esp if i'm not entirely turned on by the girl and fucking her just because i'm a man, and feel the need to fuck somebody. lol.... or if she says or does something to turn me off, it'll take forever to bust a nut. even with prami.. (i don't like caber)..

I've never had those issues with deca/npp though.

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Re: Guy @ My Gym Runs 5g /Week
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2013, 12:59:02 PM »
Blood, sweat, and tears, the calculated destruction of ones inner organs to build a physique..............th at women laugh at when floopy appears. ROTFLMFAO

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Re: Guy @ My Gym Runs 5g /Week
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2013, 01:08:44 PM »
I've used a little over 5g's for about 8-9 months before.  I don't remember any erection issues, but i generally was moody and felt like shit all day.

I wish i would have looked like i was on 5g's.  It was at this point i realized i would never be as big as i thought i would and changed over to power lifting.

I know a bunch of guys that use more than 5g's a week and most of them are huge, but some of them you would never guess were using that much.

The part i remember the most was how puffy i looked, mainly in the face, but my entire body was so filled with water it was nuts.  Yet i still had lines and could barely see my abs.


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how big did you get, height/weight/bodyfat?

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2013, 01:44:18 PM »
how big did you get, height/weight/bodyfat?

At my largest i was 257 at around 12-14% BF, 5'11".

I was strong as a fucking bull! 

I can see how easy it is to get injured running dosages that high.


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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2013, 02:02:49 PM »
At my largest i was 257 at around 12-14% BF, 5'11".

I was strong as a fucking bull! 

I can see how easy it is to get injured running dosages that high.


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what were your lifts then? i'm talking the powerlifts here, and did you compete in the 275's or the 242's

also, do you think that it's easier to get injuried if you compete while being ripped, say @ 6-7%?

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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2013, 03:20:48 PM »
what were your lifts then? i'm talking the powerlifts here, and did you compete in the 275's or the 242's

also, do you think that it's easier to get injuried if you compete while being ripped, say @ 6-7%?

@ 242 RAW

635 Squat in a meet (660 in the gym)

480 Bench in a meet (515 in the gym)

715 Deadlift in a meet (720 in the gym)

I honestly didn't notice a difference being lean with injuries.  At 242 i was pretty lean, i didn't look like a typical power lifter.  I can say that my joints hurt a lot more when i would cut down from 250+ down to 242 for meets.  I always tried to stay within 15 pounds of my weight class.

I held the State record in the 220's for deadlift, 685 pounds RAW.  I started competing in the 220's and injected my way into the 242's. ;D


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Re: Guy @ My Gym Runs 5g /Week
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2013, 06:45:18 PM »
@ 242 RAW

635 Squat in a meet (660 in the gym)

480 Bench in a meet (515 in the gym)

715 Deadlift in a meet (720 in the gym)

I honestly didn't notice a difference being lean with injuries.  At 242 i was pretty lean, i didn't look like a typical power lifter.  I can say that my joints hurt a lot more when i would cut down from 250+ down to 242 for meets.  I always tried to stay within 15 pounds of my weight class.

I held the State record in the 220's for deadlift, 685 pounds RAW.  I started competing in the 220's and injected my way into the 242's. ;D


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very impressive lifts!  ever since that guy told me he runs 5g a week of test alone, i'm starting to think that guys, like dan green (the powerlifter), are no stranger to grams and grams of gear weekly. 

i just laugh when i hear pro bb'ers bitch about how the "guys on the forums" are "all full of shit" when it comes to the required dosages to become a pro bb'er and/or competitive powerlifter.  it sounds to me like the pros just don't want to even come anywhere close to divulging the exact amount of gear they actually run year round. 

that being said, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS WEEK'S OLYMPIA!

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Re: Guy @ My Gym Runs 5g /Week
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2013, 09:11:12 PM »
@ 242 RAW

635 Squat in a meet (660 in the gym)

480 Bench in a meet (515 in the gym)

715 Deadlift in a meet (720 in the gym)

I honestly didn't notice a difference being lean with injuries.  At 242 i was pretty lean, i didn't look like a typical power lifter.  I can say that my joints hurt a lot more when i would cut down from 250+ down to 242 for meets.  I always tried to stay within 15 pounds of my weight class.

I held the State record in the 220's for deadlift, 685 pounds RAW.  I started competing in the 220's and injected my way into the 242's. ;D


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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2013, 02:36:38 AM »
Good numbers, I was around there for gym lifts on a gram of test a week plus two to three a bombs a day. I looked like dogshit and felt like I was going to die all the time so I can't fathom taking three times that much or more. Crazy ppl!

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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2013, 06:53:45 AM »
Thanks guys!

Trust me, there are very few people who are honest about using these amounts of gear.  That's why when i hear Pros and other people say it's impossible to run these amounts and it's not needed i just laugh.  I don't know ANY upper lever body builders or power lifters who don't measure there weekly dose in GRAMS.  Don't believe the bullshit, everyone wants to talk down their doses for obvious reasons.  They want you to believe they are special and know something other people don't, when in reality they are injecting massive doses and just want to fool people.

I do believe some people respond better to gear, but only on a very basic level.  Genetics only go so far in this game.

The crazy part is, and I'm just being honest, is that i cannot even dream of lifting those numbers today.  I never go over 1000mg of combined AAS these days and I'm still pretty strong, but it was the massive amounts of gear that got me there, with a ton of hardcore training as well.  I competed for a very long time and did very well.  Without all that gear i would have never came close to putting up those numbers and i was very strong for a natural.


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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2013, 04:09:03 PM »
I've used a little over 5g's for about 8-9 months before.  I don't remember any erection issues, but i generally was moody and felt like shit all day.

I wish i would have looked like i was on 5g's.  It was at this point i realized i would never be as big as i thought i would and changed over to power lifting.

I know a bunch of guys that use more than 5g's a week and most of them are huge, but some of them you would never guess were using that much.

The part i remember the most was how puffy i looked, mainly in the face, but my entire body was so filled with water it was nuts.  Yet i still had lines and could barely see my abs.


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what did some of your cycles from that time period look like if you dont mind ?

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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2013, 08:10:20 PM »
Thanks guys!

Trust me, there are very few people who are honest about using these amounts of gear.  That's why when i hear Pros and other people say it's impossible to run these amounts and it's not needed i just laugh.  I don't know ANY upper lever body builders or power lifters who don't measure there weekly dose in GRAMS.  Don't believe the bullshit, everyone wants to talk down their doses for obvious reasons.  They want you to believe they are special and know something other people don't, when in reality they are injecting massive doses and just want to fool people.

I do believe some people respond better to gear, but only on a very basic level.  Genetics only go so far in this game.

The crazy part is, and I'm just being honest, is that i cannot even dream of lifting those numbers today.  I never go over 1000mg of combined AAS these days and I'm still pretty strong, but it was the massive amounts of gear that got me there, with a ton of hardcore training as well.  I competed for a very long time and did very well.  Without all that gear i would have never came close to putting up those numbers and i was very strong for a natural.


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this x2

... I use heavy doses and i'm no pro. Am I the best guy in the gym? probably in my particular gym. lol... but if I go across town there's guys wayyyy bigger than me.... i'll run 3g test and 900 npp and 150-200 dbol like it's nothing... with 200mcg igf1 and insulin (I only run 10iu at night now, maybe 10iu twice a day... but 60+ in the past).... and I can easily bump up to 5g test, 1500 npp or 2g deca plus whatever else I feel my body would respond to at the time and I still won't be a 'pro'... I stay lean as hell and eat tons of carbs, so shirt off I look like a bber who'd use 1g test and 100/day tren, (i'm exaggerating a lil.. i'm pretty grainy and vascular, and probably an obvious user), but get comments everyday like 'holy fuck dude, whatever you're doing, keep doing it"... ect.... but they'd never believe me if I said how much I really took.... and i'm sure that's true for A LOT of guys... I move a lot of product to guys who I know is for personal use and don't even look like they're users.. and that's top-notch gear, i'm almost embarrassed to have them say they use my stuff. lol...... .... some have the genes, some don't.

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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2013, 10:53:14 PM »
this x2

... I use heavy doses and i'm no pro. Am I the best guy in the gym? probably in my particular gym. lol... but if I go across town there's guys wayyyy bigger than me.... i'll run 3g test and 900 npp and 150-200 dbol like it's nothing... with 200mcg igf1 and insulin (I only run 10iu at night now, maybe 10iu twice a day... but 60+ in the past).... and I can easily bump up to 5g test, 1500 npp or 2g deca plus whatever else I feel my body would respond to at the time and I still won't be a 'pro'... I stay lean as hell and eat tons of carbs, so shirt off I look like a bber who'd use 1g test and 100/day tren, (i'm exaggerating a lil.. i'm pretty grainy and vascular, and probably an obvious user), but get comments everyday like 'holy fuck dude, whatever you're doing, keep doing it"... ect.... but they'd never believe me if I said how much I really took.... and i'm sure that's true for A LOT of guys... I move a lot of product to guys who I know is for personal use and don't even look like they're users.. and that's top-notch gear, i'm almost embarrassed to have them say they use my stuff. lol...... .... some have the genes, some don't.

thanks for sharing your story.  wow that's a lot of gear.  how is your health been over the last little while?  have you noticed any serious complications?

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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2013, 11:24:56 PM »
thanks for sharing your story.  wow that's a lot of gear.  how is your health been over the last little while?  have you noticed any serious complications?


from gear? damn near zero... pancreatitis from drinking in my early 20's.

was in the hospital with a thyroid mixup a while back and had a full battery of tests done, ct scans on chest, echo's on heart, ect... I was surprised my heart was totally perfect. no liver enlargement, when I was drinking in my 20's my ast/alt was horrible. but now, even on heavy, heavy anadrol doses (and tren and test, of course) for many months on end, my enzymes were higher than normal, but I felt fine.. and bilirubin was high, but I never had jaundice.. eyes always white, skin... who knows, I stay tan/dark, either from the the sun (it's 120+ 9months out of the year here and I never wear a shirt unless i'm in the gym, office, or store) or dark from all the androgens in me.. lol... but I've never looked yellow.

my kidney function is perfect.

my blood pressure was slightly high when I 'quit' bbing and went to pling and put on bodyfat and my waist expanded (it's down to 33 now... and has been for a few years now), but a small amout of captopril solved that.... plus I was dealing with an enormous amount of stress at the time. (whole 'nother story for another time)

hard to bust a nut or get completely hard when on tren without Viagra.. now I use a combo of Levitra and Viagra (about 10 and 50).... sex drive is good... every woman looks fuckable, and I look fuckable to every woman, but learned to not take advantage of that recently. lol... (saying that out loud makes me thing I'd better increase my aromasin! haha... but I have a 'keeper' right now, and am satisfied, so I don't entertain the idea of bangin other women... i'll look and notice, but not pursue)

just recently had my first abcess.. but was from a black widow bite, nowehere near an injection site.

my hair is still nice and thick, but hairline gone back on the temples slightly a couple mm's over the years.. even at the doses I use.

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Re: Guy @ My Gym Runs 5g /Week
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2013, 06:17:11 AM »
what did some of your cycles from that time period look like if you dont mind ?

2000mg Test E
1200mg Deca
900mg Eq
150mg Drol ED

That's what i was running at my strongest as a power lifter.  I was on this for about 9 months, i only used the Drol 8 weeks up until the national meet.

1400mg Test Prop
700mg Tren A
800mg Primo
100mg Winny ED

That's around what i ran back when i wanted to win body building shows.

A few times i used 3000mg of Test with some other goodies just to see what happened.  Oddly enough i wasn't that bloated, but i had some water for sure.  ;D


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Re: Guy @ My Gym Runs 5g /Week
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2013, 08:45:35 AM »
Good numbers, I was around there for gym lifts on a gram of test a week plus two to three a bombs a day. I looked like dogshit and felt like I was going to die all the time so I can't fathom taking three times that much or more. Crazy ppl!

Powerlifters use dosages that make gh15 cycles look like child's play.  The guys I know at my gym who are lifters that I know well tell me about dosages that are OUTRAGEOUS!!  The thing is they don't give a flying fuck what they look like, so Abombs, test, deca, and everything else go into the stratosphere.  Especially Abombs!!  And estro/prolact control is greek to these guys.  Some of them actually look purple like Barney - I can't even imagine what their BP is!!  How some of these guys have livers left is amazing, especially since I now a lot of them drink and use other "recreational" drugs in excess.  Amazing what the human organism can endure.