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will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« on: October 11, 2013, 08:49:11 AM »
What will happen to america over the next 4 years?? Seems like we are on the cusp of a major, irreversible turning point. Even if obamacare does prove to be a failure, that fact will be greatly tempered by the fact the media is heavily pro-left and barely covers the administration's shortcomings, much less goes on the attack, and routinely demonizes the opposition by a huge margin. Combined with the fact that the numbers of illegal immigrants increases every day (by design) AND low information/gov dependant voters increase in numbers every day, the numbers seem quite ominous. If the socialistsdemocrats win the House next year, we can expect to see a full-blown push towards socialism unhindered by any major opposition.

By the time obama's term ends we will have obamacare, strong gun control laws, probably a list of other government- mandated programs and massive regulation/control of various sectors. What will happen then if another socialist dem takes office in 2017? What if they win by a small margin, then continue to ram thru liberal agendas like they have a mandate? Will that be the point where we start seeing serious backlashes/uprisings/secession movements? Will the nation be full of riots and unrest? Will the union be temped to split up? Or will the nation just lay back and say oh well and embrace full european style socialism with apathy?

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2013, 11:28:46 AM »
Yes.

We are almost there.

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2013, 11:34:35 AM »
I doubt it, unless the Democrats take the House back and keep the Senate in 2014. 

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2013, 11:42:41 AM »
And what is the tipping point gentlemen?  Anyone? 

An idea.  ?

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2013, 11:44:34 AM »
I doubt it, unless the Democrats take the House back and keep the Senate in 2014. 

Let's assume that happens

what would the Dems do in the following to years to make the US a socialist state?

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2013, 11:51:09 AM »
Let's assume that happens

what would the Dems do in the following to years to make the US a socialist state?

Continue their massive expansion of government/debt, meddle in everyone's lives and try to tell them what's best for them, vastly increase regulation of virtually everything they want, pick apart the constitution as they wish, take more from everyone's paycheck...without the House there to act as a wedge in the door, they will have a free for all..

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2013, 12:03:57 PM »
Continue their massive expansion of government/debt, meddle in everyone's lives and try to tell them what's best for them, vastly increase regulation of virtually everything they want, pick apart the constitution as they wish, take more from everyone's paycheck...without the House there to act as a wedge in the door, they will have a free for all..

be specific

what exactly would they do in the last two years to make this country a socialist state

Of course you know that public sector jobs under Obama have actually shrunk by 700k (and they went up by 1.75 million under the last POTUS) so you can't use that old tired fairytale of "massive government expansion

vastly increasing regulation on virtually everything is yet another one of those horseshit statements right wingers like to throw out to get themselves fired up

BE SPECIFIC

What could the Dems possibly do in the last two years of an Obama administration to make us a socialist state.   We know they are not going to scrap the ACA and institute a single payer system so what else could they do that would be "socialist"

are they going to give everyone free college education ?

are they going to give everyone free abortions without any restrictions?

come on, give me some specifics

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2013, 12:18:04 PM »
I just deposited a post-lunch strawman in the toilet, light tannish in color, strawlike consistency. Used approximately 24 squares to wipe

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2013, 12:25:08 PM »
I think the whole immigration issue is a play by the left to create a single party system in the future..... theyre basically shuttling in a huge voter base that the republicans will never, ever be able to touch.

If they effectively eliminate the republicans.... it, would be bad news, for everyone, although I doubt many on the left would think so.

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2013, 12:35:23 PM »
I just deposited a post-lunch strawman in the toilet, light tannish in color, strawlike consistency. Used approximately 24 squares to wipe

just as I figured

no ability to refute my statements

makes sense though, since your claims are lies or just generic right wing hysteria

Sheesh - all you need to do is provide some specific examples of how what the Dems will do to make us a socialist state by 2017

I guess if you can't do it then your premise is bogus

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2013, 12:36:10 PM »
I think the whole immigration issue is a play by the left to create a single party system in the future..... theyre basically shuttling in a huge voter base that the republicans will never, ever be able to touch.

If they effectively eliminate the republicans.... it, would be bad news, for everyone, although I doubt many on the left would think so.

Repubs are doing a great job of eliminating themselves

now there is talk of the teabagger splitting off into their own party

is that the Dems fault too?

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2013, 12:39:47 PM »
Repubs are doing a great job of eliminating themselves

now there is talk of the teabagger splitting off into their own party

is that the Dems fault too?
huh?  No, of course not. But someone needs to come up with a viable alternativr because the direction were headed is bad news..... But to deny that the democrats are using immigration to try and assure their parties dominance for the next half century is naiive, best.

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2013, 12:42:15 PM »
huh?  No, of course not. But someone needs to come up with a viable alternativr because the direction were headed is bad news..... But to deny that the democrats are using immigration to try and assure their parties dominance for the next half century is naiive, best.

why don't the Repubs just jump on the immigrant angle then ?

You act like Dems are only interested in immigration issue because they assume it will get them votes

Did it ever occur to you that immigration is an issue all by itself, regardless of who they vote for


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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2013, 12:46:25 PM »
why don't the Repubs just jump on the immigrant angle then ?

You act like Dems are only interested in immigration issue because they assume it will get them votes

Did it ever occur to you that immigration is an issue all by itself, regardless of who they vote for


Are you seriously implying that they arent trying to leverage the issue for their partys future? You really think most democrat politicians give a flying fuck about illegals? Hell, they barely give a shit about you, just enough to get your vote..... of course the issue is about votes .... dude either you just like to argue or your naiive as fuck.


They know, as we all do, that 90% ofHispanic immigrants will never, ever votr republican, just like blacks vote overwhelmingly democrat.

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2013, 12:47:17 PM »
why don't the Repubs just jump on the immigrant angle then ?

You act like Dems are only interested in immigration issue because they assume it will get them votes

Did it ever occur to you that immigration is an issue all by itself, regardless of who they vote for




It's about several things, votes, power grab by Latinos and egalitarian fantasies.
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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2013, 12:53:59 PM »
why don't the Repubs just jump on the immigrant angle then ?

You act like Dems are only interested in immigration issue because they assume it will get them votes

Did it ever occur to you that immigration is an issue all by itself, regardless of who they vote for



Votes are the sole reason they are pushing so hard for amnesty. It doesn't matter to them that amnesty would be extremely bad for the country.

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2013, 01:01:22 PM »

It's about several things, votes, power grab by Latinos and egalitarian fantasies.

yeah, not because there any other other issues regarding immigration in this country

if it weren't for getting votes (for one party) we could just leave everything the way it is .... no other actual problems regarding immmigration

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2013, 01:02:48 PM »
yeah, not because there any other other issues regarding immigration in this country

if it weren't for getting votes (for one party) we could just leave everything the way it is .... no other actual problems regarding immmigration
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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2013, 01:05:29 PM »
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I guess that's why no Repubs at all have any interest in immigration reform....right

I mean, why would they be interested when it's solely a vehicle to help Dems get votes


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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2013, 01:09:20 PM »
yeah, not because there any other other issues regarding immigration in this country

if it weren't for getting votes (for one party) we could just leave everything the way it is .... no other actual problems regarding immmigration

There are a ton of problems with immigration policy but amnesty is no solution.  Democrats know that immigrants tend to vote democratic. What other possible reason would they have to screw native born workers by allowing lax immigration other than as a strategy to get votes.  Republics who support the horrible immigration reform bill are doing it for votes or to secure cheap labor for their corporate benefactors.

Give five good reasons allowing illegal immigrants amnesty is a good idea.
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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2013, 01:10:19 PM »
I guess that's why no Repubs at all have any interest in immigration reform....right

I mean, why would they be interested when it's solely a vehicle to help Dems get votes



Yes some republicans do support immigration reform bill
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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2013, 01:11:07 PM »
Yes some republicans do support immigration reform bill

posted yesterday on Politico.com

Polls: Immigration reform could aid GOP

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/polls-immigration-reform-could-aid-gop-98118.html

someone needs to inform Repubs of the political braintrust over here at GB.com

We know that this issue is really just phony baloney to help Dems get more votes

Someone has to warn Repubs before they fall for the trick of thinking it could help them too

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2013, 01:13:01 PM »
posted yesterday on Politico.com

Polls: Immigration reform could aid GOP

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/polls-immigration-reform-could-aid-gop-98118.html

someone needs to inform Repubs of the political braintrust over here at GB.com

We know that this issue is really just phony baloney to help Dems get more votes

Someone has to warn Repubs before they fall for the trick of thinking it could help them too



http://americasvoiceonline.org/research/getting-to-a-majority-more-house-republicans-come-out-for-citizenship/


Five reasons the country will benefit?
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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2013, 01:14:33 PM »
Illegal immigration is not a problem in the US. 

Besides, anyone can see that this is how the poor and disenfranchised succeed in life.

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Re: will america be a socialist state by 2017?
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2013, 01:16:11 PM »
I guess that's why no Repubs at all have any interest in immigration reform....right

I mean, why would they be interested when it's solely a vehicle to help Dems get votes


theyre interested because if they block it and the dems get it passed, itll for sure be the end of them. If they manage to look like they want to help the issue, theyre likely to get at least some of the new voting block