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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #50 on: October 14, 2013, 09:31:03 PM »
No doubt shes William Clinton's child.   :D


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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #51 on: October 14, 2013, 09:41:43 PM »


Would enjoy pissing in that mouth....

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #52 on: October 14, 2013, 09:43:04 PM »
Would enjoy pissing in that mouth....

I'm not sure female enjoy opening their mouths so men can urinate in them.

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #53 on: October 14, 2013, 09:44:26 PM »
I'm not sure female enjoy opening their mouths so men can urinate in them.

More knee-padding for the Democrats...  ::)

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #54 on: October 14, 2013, 09:45:44 PM »

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #55 on: October 14, 2013, 09:50:06 PM »
More knee-padding for the Democrats...  ::)

Actually I support the Bush Doctrine policy of urinating on people BEFORE they tell me they're not into watersports.

Pre-emptive action is required in this day and age.

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #57 on: October 14, 2013, 09:57:30 PM »
Actually I support the Bush Doctrine policy of urinating on people BEFORE they tell me they're not into watersports.

Pre-emptive action is required in this day and age.

ROFL!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #58 on: October 14, 2013, 10:58:58 PM »
I suspect we agree on many things (a constitutional provision limiting the growth in federal spending, reformulating welfare programs so that payments are conditional on economically productive behaviors, ending the war on drugs and thus enhancing individual freedom, devolving many issues to the states to produce their own policy outputs (e.g., whether to recognize gay marriage), reducing corporate tax rates, pivoting away from a world police-style foreign policy, etc.).

I limit my criticism solely to the neckbeardian (sometimes called 'Paulian') offshoot of libertarianism, a perverse disease which tends to be coextensive with the following: never having taken an economics course; advocating Austrian economics; pretending market systems can exist without government regulation; advocating for a return to the gold standard; repeating everything Peter Schiff says about "imminent hyperinflation" (any day now! ::)); and a few other deviant behaviors.

I agree with just about everything you wrote and I think we are, generally, on the same page although I think I am slightly more libertarian and advocate laissez-faire capitalism.

Why do you think that government regulation is required for market systems? I am not fundamentally opposed to some regulation but I don't see it as critical. Bartering for goods is largely unregulated and has served us well but is largely impractical in this day and age.

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #59 on: October 15, 2013, 12:38:43 PM »
Bump for getbigs heavyweights of intellectualism to weigh in further on global and domestic monetary policies. Or, more shots of hoes having piss shot in their mouths :D

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2013, 12:56:18 PM »
I'm not sure female enjoy opening their mouths so men can urinate in them.

Your Mother and sisters did.......

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #61 on: October 15, 2013, 01:11:50 PM »
I agree with just about everything you wrote and I think we are, generally, on the same page although I think I am slightly more libertarian and advocate laissez-faire capitalism.

Why do you think that government regulation is required for market systems? I am not fundamentally opposed to some regulation but I don't see it as critical. Bartering for goods is largely unregulated and has served us well but is largely impractical in this day and age.

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #62 on: October 15, 2013, 01:14:35 PM »
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I love this shit.

Feel like I'm sitting in on a lunch meeting  with Patrick Bateman  8)

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #63 on: October 15, 2013, 02:05:21 PM »
I love this shit.

Feel like I'm sitting in on a lunch meeting  with Patrick Bateman  8)

Dorsia for drinks later? I got a table. (No homo)

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #64 on: October 15, 2013, 02:12:42 PM »
I love this shit.

Feel like I'm sitting in on a lunch meeting  with Patrick Bateman  8)

I've seen syntaxmachine's businesses cards, they're insane.

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #65 on: October 15, 2013, 02:13:41 PM »
LOL

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #66 on: October 15, 2013, 02:18:22 PM »
And I'm convinced that syntaxmachine is her gimmick. I haven't heard a person speak that intelligently in a while. I hate her politics, but a super well spoken person.

Please do not insult Syntax like that.  Chelsea isn't a dummy by any means, but she's said plenty of stupid things over the years, just like mom (and to a much lesser extent, pop, even though he ultimately endorsed that piece of shit Obama).  I particularly recall how Chelz freaked out when someone asked her about her father's infidelity ... she nearly shit herself trying to get security to escort that person out.

Syntax doesn't make such mistakes, in part because he's a man.  As Don Corlene said, "Women and children can make mistakes.  Men cannot make mistakes."

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #67 on: October 15, 2013, 02:23:30 PM »
Please do not insult Syntax like that.  Chelsea isn't a dummy by any means, but she's said plenty of stupid things over the years, just like mom (and to a much lesser extent, pop, even though he ultimately endorsed that piece of shit Obama).  I particularly recall how Chelz freaked out when someone asked her about her father's infidelity ... she nearly shit herself trying to get security to escort that person out.

Syntax doesn't make such mistakes, in part because he's a man.  As Don Corlene said, "Women and children can make mistakes.  Men cannot make mistakes."

Many words of wisdom were spoken by Don Corleone.......

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #68 on: October 15, 2013, 04:33:15 PM »
Bill was a piece of shit, like Bush Sr, Bush Jr and Obama...he was just a better salesman that fell into the spot during one of the largest money printing debt bubbles in history.  Bill got to ride it and the tech boom for 5 years.  Bush Jr caught the tail end of that tech/debt bubble crash but used the next housing bubble, 9/11, and wars to keep collapse at bay for eight years.  Obama gets the housing bubble collapse, deleveraging of the Lehman, and no good wars to start to keep kicking the can.



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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #69 on: October 18, 2013, 06:20:14 AM »
Why do you think that government regulation is required for market systems? I am not fundamentally opposed to some regulation but I don't see it as critical. Bartering for goods is largely unregulated and has served us well but is largely impractical in this day and age.

By 'market system', I mean a set of markets linked together such that the majority of society's activity is organized/initiated within the set.

I'm simply not aware of any plausible scenario where purely free market forces maintain such a system, and historically there are no cases. So, on a provisional basis I think that the state is a necessary component: providing public goods utilized by market participants, issuing and maintaining the currency in which all transactions take place, enshrining and enforcing property rights, correcting for fundamental negative externalities that crop up, enforcing private contracts, occasionally smashing anti-competitive monopolies, and a few other things.

This isn't remotely the same thing as saying that the state must be heavily involved in specific markets (e.g., housing); rather, it's simply saying there is a minimum threshold of involvement ("regulation") entailed by the above functions.

I don't think what I've said here is controversial, or even particularly interesting, but it apparently needs to be said since neckbeardianism seems to construe state and market as inextricably opposed forces locked in a zero-sum game.

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #70 on: October 18, 2013, 10:57:18 AM »
By 'market system', I mean a set of markets linked together such that the majority of society's activity is organized/initiated within the set.

I'm simply not aware of any plausible scenario where purely free market forces maintain such a system, and historically there are no cases. So, on a provisional basis I think that the state is a necessary component: providing public goods utilized by market participants, issuing and maintaining the currency in which all transactions take place, enshrining and enforcing property rights, correcting for fundamental negative externalities that crop up, enforcing private contracts, occasionally smashing anti-competitive monopolies, and a few other things.

OK, this makes a lot more sense, even if I don't necessarily agree across the board. Clearly a state actor is needed for things like enforcement of property rights and private contracts and you'll get no argument from me there.

I'm not sure what "public goods" refers to in this case, but let's say it's things like roads. In that case, then yes, the state plays a role. But that's a well defined role, that doesn't see the state as "involved" in the market as such (upto things like purchasing construction materials and equipment, etc.).

On the issue of currency, I'm indifferent: I see no reason why it's required or why business couldn't be transacted in private currencies, provided both parties to the transaction consent. Of course, you could easily argue that a state issued currency helps even then by acting as a bridge currency and functioning as not only a currency per se but as a lubricant between currency X and currency Y by allowing market makers to inject liquidity.

What "negative externalities" did you have in mind? Can you provide some examples?

As for the smashing of anti-competitives monopolies, I have yet to see a single monopoly that isn't sustained by government grant or fiat. A company can grow to dominate its particular market, but my answer would, generally, be so what? Look at Microsoft: it dominated the software market almost completely; and yet, Linux managed to stage a revolt, and Apple managed to establish its own nation state - albeit still relatively small.

Of course, I can see some cases where a monopoly is so large and so ensconced and the investment required by a startup to even setup shop so large that this sort of thing is impossible. But is it a power we wish to give to the government to decide when intervention is needed and to break such monopolies up? I'm skeptical.


This isn't remotely the same thing as saying that the state must be heavily involved in specific markets (e.g., housing); rather, it's simply saying there is a minimum threshold of involvement ("regulation") entailed by the above functions.

That's fair. But let's hope that "minimum" continues to mean what we both think it means.


I don't think what I've said here is controversial, or even particularly interesting, but it apparently needs to be said since neckbeardianism seems to construe state and market as inextricably opposed forces locked in a zero-sum game.

I don't see them that way. I just see them as occupying two different domains.

How's this for neckbeardianism?

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #71 on: October 18, 2013, 11:21:13 AM »
Now she needs to marry a bea.n.er or nignog to more represent the america of tomorrow.

This^^^ Although marrying a GGewish banker can get her to the top as well ;)


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Chelsea Clinton engaged to Marc Mezvinsky, a Jew

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Chelsea Clinton with Marc Mezvinsky in 1996

Over Thanksgiving weekend, Chelsea Clinton announced through an email that she plans to marry her nice Jewish boy, Marc Mezvinsky, a Goldman Sachs banker.

(And on July 31, 2010, the couple wed in a Jew-ish ceremony)

According to the New York Times Caucus Blog:

Ms. Clinton and Mr. Mezvinsky were good friends during high school and became romantically involved years later. Ms. Clinton, who formerly worked at McKinsey & Company, the consulting firm, returned to school after last year’s presidential campaign to study public health at Columbia University.

Mr. Mezvinsky, 31, works at Goldman Sachs and is the son of two former Democratic members of Congress, Edward Mezvinsky of Iowa, who served from 1973 to 1977 but was later convicted of defrauding investors and sentenced to seven years in prison, and Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky of Pennsylvania, who served from 1993 to 1995 and lost re-election after voting for President Clinton’s budget program.

The Jewish Telegraphic Agency adds:

Mezvinksy and Clinton met in Washington in 1993, and both attended Stanford University in Palo Alto, Calif. Clinton, a Methodist, was seen attending Yom Kippur services in September with Mezvinsky at the Jewish Theological Seminary in New York, where they both now live.

No word on whether Clinton will convert before the marriage—or at all—but as political royalty, her close affiliation with Judaism is certain to delight America’s pro-Israel supporters.


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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #72 on: October 18, 2013, 11:22:25 AM »
Bill was a piece of shit, like Bush Sr, Bush Jr and Obama...he was just a better salesman that fell into the spot during one of the largest money printing debt bubbles in history.  Bill got to ride it and the tech boom for 5 years.  Bush Jr caught the tail end of that tech/debt bubble crash but used the next housing bubble, 9/11, and wars to keep collapse at bay for eight years.  Obama gets the housing bubble collapse, deleveraging of the Lehman, and no good wars to start to keep kicking the can.



Good post

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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #73 on: October 18, 2013, 11:31:21 AM »
1996 Picture of Chelsea and her Hierarchy boyfriend


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Re: Just listened to Chelsea Clinton on BBC world service
« Reply #74 on: October 18, 2013, 11:36:30 AM »
A little info on Edward Mezvinsky(Chelsea Clinton's father-n-law)lol

Mezvinsky was involved in a series of business transactions that ultimately led to his downfall.
In March 2001, Mezvinsky was indicted and later pleaded guilty to 31 of 69 charges of bank fraud, mail fraud, and wire fraud.[10] Nearly $10 million was involved in the crimes. Shortly after his indictment, he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, but the judge at his trial disallowed a mental illness defense.[5] He served his time at Federal Prison Camp, Eglin.[11] Mezvinsky, Federal Bureau of Prisons # 55040-066, he was released in April 2008.[12] He remained on federal probation until 2011, and owes substantial restitution to his victims.[13]