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I need either a 1.7+ct princess cut, or a 1.3ct single, plus a couple .75ct princess cut.

never bought online, and my regular 'jewelry guy' is loooong gone.... and I happen to be in an area where diamond prices are steep (lots of old wealthy people).

any places online I should be looking at? or is my best bet doing a deal face to face? what's a "good price" to pay for what i'm looking for?

is the difference between SI and VS THAT noticeable? i'm more concerned with overall size. what's the price difference between SI and VS.

Either a single 1.7ct

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single 1.3ct
two .75ct

what am i looking to pay? all princess cut, all SI clarity.....

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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2013, 09:11:18 PM »
Fuck off and quit trying to portray yourself as some sort of badass. Every one of your post seems to be an attempt at enlarging your e-penis. Google it and get on with your life, why are you asking on a bodybuilding gossip forum? retard

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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2013, 09:11:38 PM »
Pawn shop?

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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2013, 09:16:09 PM »
Fuck off and quit trying to portray yourself as some higher being. Every one of your post seems to be an attempt at enlarging your e-penis. Google it and get on with your life, why are you asking on a bodybuilding gossip forum? retard

how about this, you f u kin g fa ggot... why don't you PM me with your contact info and we can discuss it?

some higher being? this is a fucking bullshit community page.. you think every goddamn thread in here is bodybuilding related?

how about I just wanted to get input from a community/cub-culture of people I might belong to? btw, fuk your mother, you pot-smoking pussy.

get your panties in a bunch about all the Car threads here as well?  how about regional news threads? No? well, fuck you. PM me, you fucking chump. you fucking disrespectful little kid.

go back to your World of Warcraft fantasy world, punk.

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2013, 09:18:52 PM »
Pawn shop?

buddy of mine owns a 'pawn shop'.. sorta.. but he's steep and doesn't come across much of what i'm looking for.. he has mostly estate jewelry (and coins).

i'm googling it, but I know there were a couple guys in the diamond/jewelry biz on here a couple years ago, which is why I asked here.

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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2013, 09:18:59 PM »
how about this, you f u kin g fa ggot... why don't you PM me with your contact info and we can discuss it?

some higher being? this is a fucking bullshit community page.. you think every goddamn thread in here is bodybuilding related?

how about I just wanted to get input from a community/cub-culture of people I might belong to? btw, fuk your mother, you pot-smoking pussy.

get your panties in a bunch about all the Car threads here as well?  how about regional news threads? No? well, fuck you. PM me, you fucking chump. you fucking disrespectful little kid.

go back to your World of Warcraft fantasy world, punk.

disrespectful? i think that telling you to look elsewhere from a bodybuilding forum for advice on a $20000 purchase would probably be to your benefit. and before you tell me to go back to my 'fantasy world', i'd like to point out that you've been here for three months and have racked up 1100 posts. very impressive.

uh oh, he's retaliating! better assume he plays video games !  ???

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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2013, 09:24:34 PM »
disrespectful? i think telling you to look elsewhere from a bodybuilding forum for advice on a $20000 purchase would probably be to your benefit.

""Fuck off and quit trying to portray yourself as some sort of badass. Every one of your post seems to be an attempt at enlarging your e-penis. Google it and get on with your life, why are you asking on a bodybuilding gossip forum? retard""

what part of disrespectfull don't you understand?

and if you can't contribute, which you obviously cannot, thinking it's a fucking $20k purchase... even RETAIL I'm not looking at more than $8k... that shows me you really are a clueless child in a mans body.

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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2013, 09:30:12 PM »
disrespectful? i think that telling you to look elsewhere from a bodybuilding forum for advice on a $20000 purchase would probably be to your benefit. and before you tell me to go back to my 'fantasy world', i'd like to point out that you've been here for three months and have racked up 1100 posts. very impressive. twenty year old disrespecting-ass nursing student logic in your face, son

uh oh, he's retaliating! better assume he plays video games !  ???

actually, I've been here for over a decade "son".

and I don't flip burgers for a living, I have a desk, and a pc, and free time between clients, and I check in here among about a dozen other places... and at home, I don't have to share my computers with my parents and siblings... so I have a computer in front of me for a good percentage of the day, if I happen to come here and bullshit, what the fuck is it to you?

are you that fucking threatened by me and my posts? are you that fucking insecure? you should like you wished you were part of the Trench Coat Mafia, but didn't have balls.... you're a wannabe kid... always hating people who do what you wished you could.

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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2013, 09:37:54 PM »
buddy of mine owns a 'pawn shop'.. sorta.. but he's steep and doesn't come across much of what i'm looking for.. he has mostly estate jewelry (and coins).

i'm googling it, but I know there were a couple guys in the diamond/jewelry biz on here a couple years ago, which is why I asked here.

Hmm I'm no expert but maybe a good idea to stay out of the retail stores in the mall. Maybe find a diamond broker and buy direct if you can.

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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2013, 09:40:56 PM »
Costco

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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2013, 09:45:48 PM »
Hmm I'm no expert but maybe a good idea to stay out of the retail stores in the mall. Maybe find a diamond broker and buy direct if you can.

that's what the guy/guys said years ago, (which is why I asked here)... also had first hand knowledge of markups and wholesale prices, ect... especially price differences between diamonds a point under or point over (like 1.9ct or 2.1ct)

band/setting's i'm not worried about, that's gonna run me under 1k, even for platinum (will probably go white gold). my logic tells me that i'll get more ct's for the $ if I buy loose.... and more ct's is what i'm looking for. ideally, i'd find a 1.8-2.2ct princess cut VS... but i'd settle for SI clarity.


edit... looking online so far I've found a 2.01ct princess cut SI2 "good" cut for $4600, and a 1.71ct princess 'very good' cut SI2 for 3900, and a 1.69ct VS2 "very good" cut for 4700... ugh.. this shit is confusing.

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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2013, 10:03:51 PM »
It's good you want princess cut its 30% less than a round(the king diamond)

If your buying a nice stone like that you want it GIA certified and the serial number lazered in the stone,so when you have it cleaned you know your getting your stone back even though you will prob be able to tell it yours(the inclusions). There are other grading company's out there that are easier graders that jewelry stores will try and push on you. What ever the weaker graders grade is the stone in reality is a grade or 2 lower than what's on the paper. They do this to make you think your getting a higher graded stone for less,your really getting a lower quality stone with a generous report card

You want your stone graded excellent in polish,cut,and symmetry this is very important. Once these 3 are ALL rated excellent can you fairly compare color and clarity grades.

1st and IMHO the most important is the color. If you don't want to see yellow in the stone which I'm sure you don't the stone HAS to be D,E,or F. You Will see yellow if it's not a F or higher grade with the naked eye. Buy a smaller stone before you buy a larger yellow one. Obviously the higher the grade the better.

2nd is the clarity unless your paying 100k+ all stones will have a inclusion somewhere, the larger the inclusion the lower the score. Personally the lowest I would go here is a VS2 especially with the larger stone. The little ones you mite be able to get away with taking a lower score if they look good to the naked eye. Also try to get the inclusion on the side of the stone so you can cover it with one of the prongs that hold it to the ring ;)
Good luck congrats

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2013, 10:06:46 PM »
It's good you want princess cut its 30% less than a round(the king diamond)

If your buying a nice stone like that you want it GIA certified and the serial number lazered in the stone,so when you have it cleaned you know your getting your stone back even though you will prob be able to tell it yours(the inclusions). There are other grading company's out there that are easier graders that jewelry stores will try and push on you. What ever the weaker graders grade is the stone in reality is a grade or 2 lower than what's on the paper. They do this to make you think your getting a higher graded stone for less,your really getting a lower quality stone with a generous report card

You want your stone graded excellent in polish,cut,and symmetry this is very important. Once these 3 are ALL rated excellent can you fairly compare color and clarity grades.

1st and IMHO the most important is the color. If you don't want to see yellow in the stone which I'm sure you don't the stone HAS to be D,E,or F. You Will see yellow if it's not a F or higher grade with the naked eye. Buy a smaller stone before you buy a larger yellow one. Obviously the higher the grade the better.

2nd is the clarity unless your paying 100k+ all stones will have a inclusion somewhere, the larger the inclusion the lower the score. Personally the lowest I would go here is a VS2 especially with the larger stone. The little ones you mite be able to get away with taking a lower score if they look good to the naked eye. Also try to get the inclusion on the side of the stone so you can cover it with one of the prongs that hold it to the ring ;)
Good luck congrats

this is what I was lookin for.. thanks.

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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2013, 10:11:56 PM »
that's what the guy/guys said years ago, (which is why I asked here)... also had first hand knowledge of markups and wholesale prices, ect... especially price differences between diamonds a point under or point over (like 1.9ct or 2.1ct)

band/setting's i'm not worried about, that's gonna run me under 1k, even for platinum (will probably go white gold). my logic tells me that i'll get more ct's for the $ if I buy loose.... and more ct's is what i'm looking for. ideally, i'd find a 1.8-2.2ct princess cut VS... but i'd settle for SI clarity.


edit... looking online so far I've found a 2.01ct princess cut SI2 "good" cut for $4600, and a 1.71ct princess 'very good' cut SI2 for 3900, and a 1.69ct VS2 "very good" cut for 4700... ugh.. this shit is confusing.

Read my above post and you HAVE to look at the stones with a eye glass and the naked eye to see if it sparkles
Before you talk color and clarity, the cut ,polish,and symmetry ALL have to be graded excellent or the stone will looked fucked up even with a good color and clarity grade

Blue Nile use to be a good online source I havnt shopped diamonds for a while so I have no Idea if they still are

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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2013, 03:30:23 AM »
Read my above post and you HAVE to look at the stones with a eye glass and the naked eye to see if it sparkles
Before you talk color and clarity, the cut ,polish,and symmetry ALL have to be graded excellent or the stone will looked fucked up even with a good color and clarity grade

Blue Nile use to be a good online source I havnt shopped diamonds for a while so I have no Idea if they still are

Also, the prices go up logarithmically with the GIA certs and the class D or higher. IIRC a class D 1ct. is north of $15k, of at least was about 10 years ago.

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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2013, 07:08:34 AM »
I have exactly what you're looking for.  Send me $1200 via paypal and you'll get the diamond of your dreams.

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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2013, 07:27:50 AM »
I have read a few textbooks on diamonds. Have a look Rapaport for a guide to diamond prices. http://www.diamonds.net/

If you buy at auction you get the stone for about 1/2 retail. I wouldn't buy over the net except from a proper diamond dealer.

You don't say what you need the diamond for. Have you considered Moissanite? Looks better and not as fragile. About 1/10th the cost.

http://www.moissanitevsdiamondrings.com/differences-between-moissanite-and-diamond/

The clarity is judged by looking at the diamond with a 10 power loupe. VS2 should be fine. Think about reselling. Si not so good.

Colour that is acceptable for engagement rings is G. D, E, and F, are much more expensive. By colour M you see some faint yellow.


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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2013, 12:32:06 PM »
Too much arguing on Getbig.

Not enough holding up a jewelry store at gunpoint.


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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2013, 12:35:36 PM »
thanks for the replies.


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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2013, 12:37:47 PM »
http://diamondexchange.org/

Might have already been suggested......

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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2013, 12:58:05 PM »
Color bro F or better (d, e, f are considered colorless) and Si1 or better. No less.  Personally id go vs1 or 2 though. Resale is often so-so to poor. Fyi if u want a ring surprisingly all costco are vs2 and f (I believe), set on a platinum band

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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2013, 12:59:13 PM »
Vince Goodrum's House o'Bling.

There's a link to it somewhere on his vast online nutrition empire.

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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2013, 08:55:37 PM »
Color bro F or better (d, e, f are considered colorless) and Si1 or better. No less.  Personally id go vs1 or 2 though. Resale is often so-so to poor. Fyi if u want a ring surprisingly all costco are vs2 and f (I believe), set on a platinum band

at first I thought the Costco thing was a joke, then after you mentioned it, I checked it out.. they are VS2. lol.

I think i'm gonna tap into my client-book and see if any of my old wealthy lady clients have anything in the 1.2ct + range. I picked up an Omega Speedmaster off one in exchange for 3 one-hour sessions (she was gonna freakin GIVE/DONATE it to a local 'thrift store'... it was her ex-husbands. lol... )....... shit.... wait..... I gotta guy who runs a jewelry/coin ebay store (fucker's got like $3million in inventory.. for a fucking EBAY store), i'd bet a wooden nickel he'd trade steroids for a diamond solitare.... especially since he just got hosed by a doc spending $3k in Androgel. lol. shit... I can get a $6k ring for $300 worth of shit. dunno why I didn't think of this earlier.

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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2013, 10:06:07 PM »
I've been robbing jewelery stores for years bro.  What do you need? I got a po box to send payments. Just keep this between us bro.

in that case

1.7ct (minimum) princess cut VS1 color g through j.... in an 18k white gold band if you got it.

i'll send 25 bottles of tren up front, 75 when I get the ring.

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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2013, 10:41:19 PM »
in that case, grab me a 2ct total weight tennis bracelet in white gold, a cannon 5d mk2, and a gsm note3. i'll throw in another 100 bottles of materon.