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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 09:58:18 AM »
explain why itīs dumb.

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2013, 10:16:00 AM »
so is it wrong to make sure poor People are insured when they are ill? Explain in your own words why you think itīs wrong.

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2013, 10:24:13 AM »
in your words

Forcing people to purchase private insurance from a private company w no cost control or choice is never going to work since those needed to purchase the insurance are too broke already to afford it

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2013, 10:28:07 AM »
Forcing people to purchase private insurance from a private company w no cost control or choice is never going to work since those needed to purchase the insurance are too broke already to afford it
so if you canīt afford it what happens ? so why a private Company?

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2013, 10:30:41 AM »
so if you canīt afford it what happens ? so why a private Company?

Ask Obama - its his law

http://nypost.com/2013/10/18/doctors-worried-sick-over-obamacare

Doctors hate it too

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2013, 10:35:34 AM »
ok at least in Germany you are treated most of the time fairly.

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2013, 11:01:10 AM »
so is it wrong to make sure poor People are insured when they are ill? Explain in your own words why you think itīs wrong.

There is nothing with people having insurance. There is everything wrong with claiming that obamacrapcare is actually the solution.

Explain how that law solves that problem. Explain why, if that law insures "poor people" then why does the CBO state that 30 million will continue to be insured?

That is the CBO.

Furthermore, why should someone be penalized or taxed for not having insurance when the damn website doesn't work and when there is nothing they can do to signup for the retarded crapcare program?

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2013, 11:10:05 AM »
There is nothing with people having insurance. There is everything wrong with claiming that obamacrapcare is actually the solution.

Explain how that law solves that problem. Explain why, if that law insures "poor people" then why does the CBO state that 30 million will continue to be insured?

That is the CBO.

Furthermore, why should someone be penalized or taxed for not having insurance when the damn website doesn't work and when there is nothing they can do to signup for the retarded crapcare program?
explain "poor People" so if you are "poor" in the USA you are scum and should not have medical cover ? I think everyone should be helped. If a Family is poor why should the Kids suffer?

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2013, 11:14:01 AM »
i do not Claim to understand your System but i think everyone should be able to have health care.


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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2013, 12:51:11 PM »
so is it wrong to make sure poor People are insured when they are ill? Explain in your own words why you think itīs wrong.

Middle class people aren't receiving the same subsidies for health insurance yet are being forced, through their tax dollars, to subsidize the health care of the poor.   In my opinion this is inherently unfair.
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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2013, 01:06:42 PM »
explain "poor People" so if you are "poor" in the USA you are scum and should not have medical cover ? I think everyone should be helped. If a Family is poor why should the Kids suffer?
You explain it.

You brought it up.

The solution is not obamacare. The CBO says that it will still leave 30 million uninsured.

It is a wasteful reform (it is estimated to cost 3 times what that libtards claimed it would cost to implement, they already spent $600 million on that stupid website), it increases rates for healthy young people, and it will increase dramatically the premiums that businesses have to pay for health care which will result is more part time jobs or even layoffs.

It is not what it was sold to the public and it doesn't solve anything. It is what it is. A step towards a single payer system.

Obamacare is crapcare. Hope this helps.

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2013, 01:18:10 PM »
You explain it.

You brought it up.

The solution is not obamacare. The CBO says that it will still leave 30 million uninsured.

It is a wasteful reform (it is estimated to cost 3 times what that libtards claimed it would cost to implement, they already spent $600 million on that stupid website), it increases rates for healthy young people, and it will increase dramatically the premiums that businesses have to pay for health care which will result is more part time jobs or even layoffs.

It is not what it was sold to the public and it doesn't solve anything. It is what it is. A step towards a single payer system.

Obamacare is crapcare. Hope this helps.
no one has really explained it fully. You see it one sided. As i wrote i do not know your System but i think that better payed People should pay more so that the "poor" People can also be treated.

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2013, 01:57:12 PM »
no one has really explained it fully. You see it one sided. As i wrote i do not know your System but i think that better payed People should pay more so that the "poor" People can also be treated.

What should be asked of the poor/uninsured in return?  It seems fair to ask for something from them.  If I agree to subsidize their healthcare and their income shouldn't they give in kind?
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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2013, 02:06:53 PM »
What should be asked of the poor/uninsured in return?  It seems fair to ask for something from them.  If I agree to subsidize their healthcare and their income shouldn't they give in kind?
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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2013, 02:19:16 PM »
listen i pay into the System here but i think People ..all People should be health cared. All People.

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2013, 02:24:54 PM »
explain


The people who benefit the most from healthcare subsidizes and social programs arent giving back to society in any capacity.  If we are to have a functioning and equitable social contract all participants of a society should be willing and required to give of themselves what they can even if it's only their time. 

What should we ask of these people in return?  If we as a society collectively agree to certain terms, like using our tax dollars to support people, shouldn't society have the right to demand something of those who receive our support?  I think we do.
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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2013, 02:28:12 PM »

The people who benefit the most from healthcare subsidizes and social programs arent giving back to society in any capacity.  If we are to have a functioning and equitable social contract all participants of a society should be willing and required to give of themselves what they can even if it's only their time. 

What should we ask of these people in return?  If we as a society collectively agree to certain terms, like using our tax dollars to support people, shouldn't society have the right to demand something of those who receive our support?  I think we do.

what do you expect from them ? and i take it you mean unemployed People?

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2013, 02:28:47 PM »
what do you expect from them ? and i take it you mean unemployed People?

ObamaCare is not healthcare - its a massive tax on the middle class to pay for parasites and locusts of society

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Re: More people have signed up to go to MARS than have for ObamaCare
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2013, 02:33:44 PM »
ObamaCare is not healthcare - its a massive tax on the middle class to pay for parasites and locusts of society
so ok you are saying unemployed should not be health cared?