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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2013, 09:25:29 PM »
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You're lucky that we never met in person.  You'd now be in a wheelchair, at best. 

Look, shit-for-brains, the life is not how much money one has.  Every damn day you could die in a car accident, right?  Is it not luck that this has not killed you yet?  That you are here, alive in this universe right now, is ridiculously lucky.  What about all those other sperm that didn't make it to the egg?  (Insert joke about how since it was your mom, and therefore a lot of sperm, your odds were even slimmer.)

How does the saying go?  Born on third base and thinks he hit a triple?  You are either a shallow, half-dumb young guy or just trolling, I think. 

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2013, 09:29:22 PM »
Or you can go to school get educated and obtain a job that can't be replaced by a piece of equipment or software.

You like most liberals have this fallacy that businesses are there to support their employees. If you start to look at things from a business perspective you might start advocating laws and legislation that helps keep jobs here and even create new ones

I am all ears. Tell us all what laws and legislation (same thing BTW) you'd advocate for which would keep jobs here (assuming the U.S.) as opposed to farming labor out to third world countries?

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2013, 09:32:09 PM »
about right typical libtard, positions based on opinions and emotions that they believe are facts.

When shown their opinions are based on nothing but ignorant and innacurate assumptions they lash out and then deflect, point fingers and run away..

Now run away abraham and let the grown ups who are educated on the topics being discussed talk without the ignorance and stupidity you bring to the board

Ignorant and inaccurate assumptions?  Transference of the most obvious sort.  Tell us, how well do you know the disadvantaged among us?  I'm sorry that you lack the kinship with your fellow man to make you feel good about helping others.  You've probably had some rough emotional times when you were young.  You are among friends, now, though.  Go ahead, you can cry it out.  Fag.

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2013, 09:34:39 PM »
You're lucky that we never met in person.  You'd now be in a wheelchair, at best.  

Look, shit-for-brains, the life is not how much money one has.  Every damn day you could die in a car accident, right?  Is it not luck that this has not killed you yet?  That you are here, alive in this universe right now, is ridiculously lucky.  What about all those other sperm that didn't make it to the egg?  (Insert joke about how since it was your mom, and therefore a lot of sperm, your odds were even slimmer.)

How does the saying go?  Born on third base and thinks he hit a triple?  You are either a shallow, half-dumb young guy or just trolling, I think.  
LMFAO so the best example you can give about how I am lucky to be where I am is a sperm was fast? hahaha are you fucking serious?

I wasnt born on 3rd moron, it wasnt luck I was born in the US either jack ass. My mother was an immigrant who moved here in search of a better life and found it...I guess that was luck too eh?


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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2013, 09:37:10 PM »
Ignorant and inaccurate assumptions?  Transference of the most obvious sort.  Tell us, how well do you know the disadvantaged among us?  I'm sorry that you lack the kinship with your fellow man to make you feel good about helping others.  You've probably had some rough emotional times when you were young.  You are among friends, now, though.  Go ahead, you can cry it out.  Fag.

LMFAO again

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Bastions of responsibility and poster boys of good choices those people are:


59% have 2 or more children
54% have never been married
52% are younger than 30

yup bastions of great choices and responsibility these ppl are
more examples of how some of those on the govt dole are responsible people who have just had bad luck


90% of welfare parents are single mothers of those 10% are married, 36% divorced/widowed/separated and 54% never married.

Most welfare mothers are in their 20s and 30s with 6% under 20 years of age, 24% 20-24 years of age, 22% 25-29 years of age, 35% 30-39 years of age and 13% 40 years of age or older.

Most welfare recipients have 1 or 2 children with 41% 0-1 children, 33% 2 children, 16% 3 children and 10% more than 3 children



http://www.utexas.edu/depts/ic2/et/learner/general.html

"The welfare population is characterized as mostly single mothers in their 20s and 30s with one or two children."

sounds like some great life decisions going on with this group........

so let me get this straight there RRKORE.

you believe that these ppl as described above are simply ppl who have had bad luck in their lives?

That their personal decisions to have mulitple children out of wedlock with at most a high school diploma all before they are 30 are good life decisions and an example of being responsible?

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2013, 09:42:04 PM »
http://www.utexas.edu/depts/ic2/et/learner/general.html

"The welfare population is characterized as mostly single mothers in their 20s and 30s with one or two children."

sounds like some great life decisions going on with this group........

Sad isn't it? One would have hoped with women's lib, young single mothers who have no means to care for their offspring would have become obsolete.

I just found out my loser niece, who is a crack head, has never been married, got pregnant with her first illegitimate child when she was still in high school and then proceeded to have three more children by her gangbanger boyfriend over the last many years, is pregnant by her recently paroled new boyfriend who recently shot her in the leg "accidentally" twice. She lives in public housing, gets food stamps and public assistance, cannot hold a job and is 31 years old. I just want to slap her unconscious every time I see her, drag her to the doctor to have her tubes tied. BTW, she had a shitty childhood that somehow included lots of opportunities to hoist herself beyond the fray. Instead she's chosen to wallow in it.

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #56 on: October 29, 2013, 09:44:09 PM »
I am all ears. Tell us all what laws and legislation (same thing BTW) you'd advocate for which would keep jobs here (assuming the U.S.) as opposed to farming labor out to third world countries?
Ive been over this before and with you if I remember correctly in which we actually agreed quite a bit on what could and should be done but just to recap some positions.

Lower the corporate tax rates, which are some of the highest in the world
Close loopholes that allow corporations to pay less taxes: perhaps lowering the number of years a corporation can carry losses over, giving companies subsidies that get automatically invested overseas which we saw quite a bit of during the stimulus.
get rid of red tape and legislation that makes it more expensive and more timely to do business and hire: OBAMACARE IS BIG ONE ON THIS but also enviromental legislation and red tape that hinders drilling and fracking. The current admin was taken to court for draggin their feet on drilling applications and lost(PRIME EXAMPLE)
Tax incentives that create jobs like giving business tax breaks for every new position they create YOY.
Lots of other things that could be discussed: tarrifs for example but this is just a cursory list

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #57 on: October 29, 2013, 09:45:18 PM »
Sad isn't it? One would have hoped with women's lib, young single mothers who have no means to care for their offspring would have become obsolete.

I just found out my loser niece, who is a crack head, has never been married, got pregnant with her first illegitimate child when she was still in high school and then proceeded to have three more children by her gangbanger boyfriend over the last many years, is pregnant by her recently paroled new boyfriend who recently shot her in the leg "accidentally" twice. She lives in public housing, gets food stamps and public assistance, cannot hold a job and is 31 years old. I just want to slap her unconscious every time I see her, drag her to the doctor to have her tubes tied. BTW, she had a shitty childhood that somehow included lots of opportunities to hoist herself beyond the fray. Instead she's chosen to wallow in it.
what are you talking about prime according to abraham and RRKore she is a model citizen who is responsible and made good choices but just had bad luck

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #58 on: October 29, 2013, 09:48:56 PM »
Ive been over this before and with you if I remember correctly in which we actually agreed quite a bit on what could and should be done but just to recap some positions.

Lower the corporate tax rates, which are some of the highest in the world
Close loopholes that allow corporations to pay less taxes: perhaps lowering the number of years a corporation can carry losses over, giving companies subsidies that get automatically invested overseas which we saw quite a bit of during the stimulus.
get rid of red tape and legislation that makes it more expensive and more timely to do business and hire: OBAMACARE IS BIG ONE ON THIS but also enviromental legislation and red tape that hinders drilling and fracking. The current admin was taken to court for draggin their feet on drilling applications and lost(PRIME EXAMPLE)
Tax incentives that create jobs like giving business tax breaks for every new position they create YOY.
Lots of other things that could be discussed: tarrifs for example but this is just a cursory list
also how about actually addressing illegal immigration. I know these ppl do alot of jobs that others dont want to do but they do take jobs from other americans.

Perhaps much like affirmative action(which is bullshit) make companies give preference to american citizens especially in the fields of engineering and technology...although I could see how that might mean we miss out on a lot of talented more qualified individuals...hey just like what happens with affirmative action ;)

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #59 on: October 29, 2013, 09:51:04 PM »
Sad isn't it? One would have hoped with women's lib, young single mothers who have no means to care for their offspring would have become obsolete.

I just found out my loser niece, who is a crack head, has never been married, got pregnant with her first illegitimate child when she was still in high school and then proceeded to have three more children by her gangbanger boyfriend over the last many years, is pregnant by her recently paroled new boyfriend who recently shot her in the leg "accidentally" twice. She lives in public housing, gets food stamps and public assistance, cannot hold a job and is 31 years old. I just want to slap her unconscious every time I see her, drag her to the doctor to have her tubes tied. BTW, she had a shitty childhood that somehow included lots of opportunities to hoist herself beyond the fray. Instead she's chosen to wallow in it.
whats really sad is you have ppl gullible enough to believe your neices circumstance is based on luck and not bad life choices.

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2013, 09:51:29 PM »
LMFAO so the best example you can give about how I am lucky to be where I am is a sperm was fast? hahaha are you fucking serious?

I wasnt born on 3rd moron, it wasnt luck I was born in the US either jack ass. My mother was an immigrant who moved here in search of a better life and found it...I guess that was luck too eh?



Get real and quit lying.  A drip like you never actually laughs.  And what's this "best you can do" shit?  Yes, I'm serious.  Why wouldn't I be?  Your very presence on earth is a function of incredible luck.  It's the same for all of us.  We have some control during our short-ass live, but not as much as you seem to think, I think.    

BTW, you example is shitty.  I WAS luck you were born in the USA -- unless you picked your mom.  How is this not obvious to you?  

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #61 on: October 29, 2013, 09:51:56 PM »
what are you talking about prime according to abraham and RRKore she is a model citizen who is responsible and made good choices but just had bad luck

Whew! Good to know this. I thought she was just another loser who made bad choices and can't take responsibility for them. Next time I see her (hope it isn't soon), I'll tell her how sorry I am for her "bad luck" in life.

I am trying to figure out which of her choices were good ones. As far as I can see, all she's managed to produce so far is four children, all boys who have a snowball's chance in hell of not ending up dead or in prison before they are adults. Did I mention she is the worlds worst mother. The state keeps taking her kids away and then somehow gets all stupid and gives them back to her. There bad luck was to have been born.

Just to be fair, her oldest child has been raised by his paternal grandparents. He seems to have a fairly level head for a 15 year old. Maybe he has a chance to break out of this miserable cycle.

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #62 on: October 29, 2013, 09:55:52 PM »
RRKore/abraham I really am sorry to have to ruin your world view and show you that in this life especially here in the US that "luck" really isnt what seperates the succesful from the unsuccesful.

I hate to be the one to burst your liberal bubble and show you the real world in which if you work hard, make good choices and are responsible you will likely succeed. I know this makes you angry as all those ppl you feel were just down on their luck were really ppl who chances are made bad decisions and simply didnt give the effort.

If you need to talk to someone I think the white house has a hotline set up for this but you may have to wait a while....they are having technical difficulties

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« Reply #63 on: October 29, 2013, 09:58:12 PM »
Get real and quit lying.  A drip like you never actually laughs.  And what's this "best you can do" shit?  Yes, I'm serious.  Why wouldn't I be?  Your very presence on earth is a function of incredible luck.  It's the same for all of us.  We have some control during our short-ass live, but not as much as you seem to think, I think.   

BTW, you example is shitty.  I WAS luck you were born in the USA -- unless you picked your mom.  How is this not obvious to you? 

ok so after conception, what in my life do you feel was luck to get me to this situation?

also answer the question...

do you think a single mother who has never been married with 2+ children under 30 and without a high school diploma or at most a high school diploma is someone who is living their life responsibly and making good choices?

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #64 on: October 29, 2013, 09:58:43 PM »
LMFAO again

so let me get this straight there RRKORE.

you believe that these ppl as described above are simply ppl who have had bad luck in their lives?

That their personal decisions to have mulitple children out of wedlock with at most a high school diploma all before they are 30 are good life decisions and an example of being responsible?

Of course their actions have bearing on where they are now if life.  But luck does, too.  Many women with bastard children still can live happy and even prosperous lives.  Shit, here in the USA, I think it's common -- If they are lucky enough to be blessed with good looks/personality, they often find husbands who can improve their lives and maybe even live happily ever after.  You've heard of this happening, haven't you? If this doesn't happen, then sure luck plays a big role.  Now, I think we're in agreement that if you're smart and industrious and determined, you can really make luck play a small role.  But it will always play some role.  Always.

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #65 on: October 29, 2013, 10:00:43 PM »
night night RRBORE and abby, I gotta get up early tomorrow to go to work and make that money that you so desperately want to take out of my pocket.

Enjoy sitting at home fellas

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2013, 10:01:06 PM »
what are you talking about prime according to abraham and RRKore she is a model citizen who is responsible and made good choices but just had bad luck

No one said she was a model citizen.  Good god, you even suck at being sarcastic.

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« Reply #67 on: October 29, 2013, 10:02:37 PM »
RRKore/abraham I really am sorry to half to ruin your world view and show you that in this life especially here in the US that "luck" really isnt what seperates the succesful from the unsuccesful.

I hate to be the one to burst your liberal bubble and show you the real world in which if you work hard, make good choices and are responsible you will likely succeed. I know this makes you angry as all those ppl you feel were just down on their luck were really ppl who chances are made bad decisions and simply didnt give the effort.

If you need to talk to someone I think the white house has a hotline set up for this but you may have to wait a while....they are having technical difficulties

During my many years living life, I have discovered that sometimes we get lucky and sometimes not so much. When I got a dealt losing cards, I made the best of my hand or passed without betting on it. When I got dealt winning cards, I ran with them. Life is a gamble. Good gamblers rely on luck and being smart. I guess my good life could all go down a shithole, but that isn't likely to happen.

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #68 on: October 29, 2013, 10:05:33 PM »
whats really sad is you have ppl gullible enough to believe your neices circumstance is based on luck and not bad life choices.

It's based on both, quite obviously.  The more bad decisions she made, the more luck would have been required to pull her out of her situation.  That's all.


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« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2013, 10:06:04 PM »
No one said she was a model citizen.  Good god, you even suck at being sarcastic.

The sad part is that with all the education afforded her, coupled with her one time fashion model looks, she could have been a model citizen. The fact that she isn't is not about bad luck, it is about bad choices. But I am sure if you talked to her she doesn't see it that way. I know for a fact that she thinks she has no responsibility for anything that has happened to her.

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« Reply #70 on: October 29, 2013, 10:07:32 PM »
RRKore/abraham I really am sorry to have to ruin your world view and show you that in this life especially here in the US that "luck" really isnt what seperates the succesful from the unsuccesful.

I hate to be the one to burst your liberal bubble and show you the real world in which if you work hard, make good choices and are responsible you will likely succeed. I know this makes you angry as all those ppl you feel were just down on their luck were really ppl who chances are made bad decisions and simply didnt give the effort.

If you need to talk to someone I think the white house has a hotline set up for this but you may have to wait a while....they are having technical difficulties

Keyword "likely".  Hmmm, you talking about "probability" aka "luck"?

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #71 on: October 29, 2013, 10:07:39 PM »
You're lucky that we never met in person.  You'd now be in a wheelchair, at best. 

Damn, resorting to violence to get your point across!!!  ;D

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #72 on: October 29, 2013, 10:08:46 PM »
I am all ears. Tell us all what laws and legislation (same thing BTW) you'd advocate for which would keep jobs here (assuming the U.S.) as opposed to farming labor out to third world countries?

Make the United States business friendly again by easing regulations and cutting taxes.

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« Reply #73 on: October 29, 2013, 10:10:56 PM »
Of course their actions have bearing on where they are now if life.  But luck does, too.  Many women with bastard children still can live happy and even prosperous lives.  Shit, here in the USA, I think it's common -- If they are lucky enough to be blessed with good looks/personality, they often find husbands who can improve their lives and maybe even live happily ever after.  You've heard of this happening, haven't you? If this doesn't happen, then sure luck plays a big role.  Now, I think we're in agreement that if you're smart and industrious and determined, you can really make luck play a small role.  But it will always play some role.  Always.
and thus the chink in the armour of your theory.

Yes some ppl will be offered opportunities that others are not, this can be based on a number of things lets say as in your example looks.

The pretty girl gets courted by a succesful gentleman and is wined and dined until they get married in which she never has to work again.

Lets take a completely opposite person and say she is so ugly that nobody wants to date her. Well this may seem like a hindrance but you see it opens up other opportunities for her. The less time spent with a significant other means she can devote more time to education and bettering her situation through other means.

You guys think that simply because ppl dont have the same opportunity they are getting screwed.

If you ever get a chance to read malcom gladwells outsiders I encourgage you to do so, it goes hand in hand with you utopian view.

one point he made was that those kids who have birthdays just after cut offs for sports tryouts generally seem be bigger as they have a whole year to grow as opposed to those kids with birthdays just before the cutoff. This means they are bigger, b/c they are bigger and more cordinated they are given more attention by the coaches, this leads to more playing time, which leads to making select teams, which leads to more coaching and so on and so on until you begin to see a grouping of birth dates around these cut offs in high school, college and pro athletics.

What he also mentions however is that the kids whos birthdays are just before the cut off while they may not exceed in sports do tend to outperform the other group in school, music, art etc...

opportunities are all around us, its just recognizing them and capitalizing on them that makes you successful.

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Re: Technology and Unemployment
« Reply #74 on: October 29, 2013, 10:12:36 PM »
It WAS luck you were born in the USA -- unless you picked your mom.  How is this not obvious to you?  



It wasn't luck, he couldn't have possibly been born to anyone else.  His mother moved here and she produced her genetic, flesh and blood offspring.

His dear mother gave birth to an ownage machine.