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Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« on: January 02, 2006, 11:34:55 AM »
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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2006, 11:38:34 AM »


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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2006, 11:46:00 AM »
One top bodybuilder slept with a transvestite named Sasha Ogata.

That was probably the worst judgement call in BBing history.

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2006, 11:46:04 AM »
Any other notables?

Arnold winning the 1980 Olympia

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2006, 11:52:01 AM »
One top bodybuilder slept with a transvestite named Sasha Ogata.

That was probably the worst judgement call in BBing history.

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2006, 11:53:26 AM »
One top bodybuilder slept with a transvestite named Sasha Ogata.

That was probably the worst judgement call in BBing history.

Now that was funny !!

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2006, 11:54:52 AM »
Enough said   ;)

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2006, 12:05:00 PM »
Does this honestly look like Jay Cutler was significantly ahead of Ronnie?



Ronnie was considerably off but I would still put him ahead of Jay Cutler at his best.

Now 2002 is another story.  It is really hard to debate Ronnie deserved that victory.  Had he entered in his 2002 BFTO shape, it would have been another story.



I seen all the pics and the vid , Jay won that contest outright , he may not be better than Ronnie 364 days of the year but that day he was and he deserved to win , Ronnie knows it , I know and you know it even if you wont admit it.

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2006, 12:05:39 PM »
mmmm..ok
i see... so ur pissing him off then?
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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2006, 12:08:54 PM »
The difference between 2001 and 1994 is this:

2001 was still debatable. It was close, and everyone can see that.

 On the other hand, I don't think anyone in their right mind (except ND who is on crack anyway) thinks that 1994 was undebatable. It was a robbery, plain and simple. Everyone has been saying that for years.  There was no debate about that.

I have never really heard anyone make a sound case for Dorian winning in the kind of shape that he was in 1994, especiall with Shawn ray showing up looking like he did.. I mean look at that shot from the contest that I posted - that is, in my opinion, THE greatest arms forward most muscular ever, even better than Kevin! 
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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2006, 12:21:42 PM »
Arnold winning the 1980 Olympia


The one-legged Franco win beats this

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2006, 12:24:44 PM »
The difference between 2001 and 1994 is this:

2001 was still debatable. It was close, and everyone can see that.

 On the other hand, I don't think anyone in their right mind (except ND who is on crack anyway) thinks that 1994 was undebatable. It was a robbery, plain and simple. Everyone has been saying that for years.  There was no debate about that.

I have never really heard anyone make a sound case for Dorian winning in the kind of shape that he was in 1994, especiall with Shawn ray showing up looking like he did.. I mean look at that shot from the contest that I posted - that is, in my opinion, THE greatest arms forward most muscular ever, even better than Kevin! 

Shawn Ray himself said he got the place he deserved , I guess thats not good enough for you , oh maybe the controversy you're talking about his Kevin being pissed he got 3rd lol here is a pic from the 94 Olympia looks great to me.

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2006, 12:29:10 PM »
betil and mentzer not being olympia one time and shawn twice

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2006, 12:31:43 PM »
Shredded back , striated glutes another day at the office.

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2006, 12:32:28 PM »
Shawn Ray himself said he got the place he deserved , I guess thats not good enough for you , oh maybe the controversy you're talking about his Kevin being pissed he got 3rd lol here is a pic from the 94 Olympia looks great to me.

that pic is NOT from the 94 O. It is from the 94 English grand prix where dorian looked much better.

If I had a scanner I could prove it as I have the flex mag with the 94 grand prix coverage in it.

Dorian looked like shit in 94, stop posting pics from another contest to try and justify Dorians win. 
 
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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2006, 12:33:10 PM »
I would have to say Bertil Fox placing fifth at the '83 Olympia would be way up there.  He deserved no less than second.

Any other notables?

  That has got to be the 91 O. Haney, together with Oliva and Yates himself, is one of the most genetically gifted bodybuilders in history, but he lost that contest. Sorry, but I think that, if you win the muscularity round, you should win the contest. inning the mandatories-by a few points-and the posing round should not give you a contest.

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2006, 12:34:17 PM »
that pic is NOT from the 94 O. It is from the 94 English grand prix where dorian looked much better.

If I had a scanner I could prove it as I have the flex mag with the 94 grand prix coverage in it.

Dorian looked like shit in 94, stop posting pics from another contest to try and justify Dorians win. 
 
It only makes you look retarded!


First of all I'm not a 100% sure if you're right about that and second this is comming from a guy who posts photohopped pics please  ::)

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2006, 12:35:14 PM »
that pic is NOT from the 94 O. It is from the 94 English grand prix where dorian looked much better.

If I had a scanner I could prove it as I have the flex mag with the 94 grand prix coverage in it.

Dorian looked like shit in 94, stop posting pics from another contest to try and justify Dorians win. 
 
It only makes you look retarded!

  hulkster, luv ya but you are brainwashed like kelly ryan and have no rational mind remaining

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2006, 12:36:16 PM »
First of all I'm not a 100% sure if you're right about that and second this is comming from a guy who posts photohopped pics please  ::)

name one shot that I have posted that is photophopped Mr. Dorian black and White rear lat spread!!  oh... you forgot about that one didn't you? ;)
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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2006, 12:36:39 PM »
The difference between 2001 and 1994 is this:

2001 was still debatable. It was close, and everyone can see that.

 On the other hand, I don't think anyone in their right mind (except ND who is on crack anyway) thinks that 1994 was undebatable. It was a robbery, plain and simple. Everyone has been saying that for years.  There was no debate about that.

I have never really heard anyone make a sound case for Dorian winning in the kind of shape that he was in 1994, especiall with Shawn ray showing up looking like he did.. I mean look at that shot from the contest that I posted - that is, in my opinion, THE greatest arms forward most muscular ever, even better than Kevin! 

At this time it's all about mass, mass game, and if you have seen the video, Dorian could have eaten Ray for dinner. If you had the mass and a great back your won. Shawn's back was nothing compared to Yates.

Now going by your standards Coleman should have lost in 04 since he looked like a sack of shit

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2006, 12:42:10 PM »
At this time it's all about mass, mass game, and if you have seen the video, Dorian could have eaten Ray for dinner. If you had the mass and a great back your won. Shawn's back was nothing compared to Yates.

Now going by your standards Coleman should have lost in 04 since he looked like a sack of shit
I agree that Ronnie looked terrible in 04.  But he didn't have an in career best shape Shawn Ray to challenge him..

He had..blocky Jay?? Badell? Gunter? Rhul??

If Ronnie had competed in say 98 looking like he did in 04 he wouldn't have made the top 6.

Ronnie was lucky that his competition sucked in 04.

And as far as Shawns back being nothing compared to yates, well here is a shot from 95, when dorian was in shape, and I would say that Shawn actually beats dorian in this pose!


that is one impressive double bi!
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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2006, 12:47:00 PM »
I agree that Ronnie looked terrible in 04.  But he didn't have an in career best shape Shawn Ray to challenge him..

He had..blocky Jay?? Badell? Gunter? Rhul??

If Ronnie had competed in say 98 looking like he did in 04 he wouldn't have made the top 6.

Ronnie was lucky that his competition sucked in 04.

And as far as Shawns back being nothing compared to yates, well here is a shot from 95, when dorian was in shape, and I would say that Shawn actually beats dorian in this pose!


that is one impressive double bi!

Yates owns the back shot , he has width , thickness and detail not to mention better calves , I'm sorry Hulkster but Shawn isn't even close and never was.

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2006, 01:09:22 PM »
240 can be reborn as the Messiah and he would still be an arsehole who thought he was funny

bertils shaft at the 83 Olympia

shawn ray getting 4th at the 92 O

Jay cutlers 2nd place in 01

lee priest getting 5th in the (?)99 NOC

Gunters 9th place at the 99 Arnold

there are so many, but they are the main ones that stick in my mind
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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2006, 01:09:37 PM »
There's maybe three or four bb's in history with a back on par with Yates and Shawn Ray isn't one of them.

To argue Ray's back was better than Yates makes it hard to take  your other points serious.

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Re: Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2006, 01:12:47 PM »
dexter and chris losin to jay at the arnold 04