Most ludicrous judging decision ever in BB?

[suckmymuscle]

Those are awesome pics!!

and by the way,


Dorian's arms are amazing...ly bad!

now that I see those lineup pics, to me anyway, Shawn does look better than Dorian in each of them.  Yes, even the back double bi.  Now, most won't agree with me, hey, what can ya do

  You have an obvious mental condition. Saying that Shawn beats Dorian, in each and every single pose, is just not right.

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[pumpster]

Other than lat width, Lavrone blows him away.

Though I think Ronnie's back has surpassed Dorian's, no one--past or present--can match this front lat spread.

That's about Dorian's only strong pose! The mediocre, deformed arms and blocky taper are nicely hidden in that one shot.

[GMCtrk]

Ronnie looking horrible here...


But from the back, totally smokes Kevin


side chest, again to levrone


front lat, ronnie even at his "worst" still kills Kevin, check out the legs


Ronnie bogged down with water



Should it go to Kevin? 2002 olympia?

[pumpster]

He looks good, what are you talking about? Similar condition with more size than the otehrs. Lavrone looks good but lacks thigh size in comparison.

[GMCtrk]

Ronnie losing out front dbl bi to cutler in 01 -

[pumpster]

Cutler's in better shape but Ron just naturally always has the edge in lines and size.

Lavrone's relative lack of lat & thigh width is revealed in that shot.

[GMCtrk]

Dorian smooth in 97

[pumpster]

Quintessential powerlifter look.

[GMCtrk]

Dorian displaying no right bicep in 96

[GMCtrk]

DAMN check out Ronnie's waist in this picture

[gammahydroxy]

Dorian had the back, but shawn didnt have a single weakness in his entire physique. This is the man with the best abs and serratus ever seen onstage, the very personification of symmetrical perfection. There is no doubt he should have won atleast twice

yup what he said...

[pumpster]

The only advantage for Yates in that shot is his thighs-better cuts, more proportionate, better shape, and calves.

[knny187]

Shawn should've had this one

[suckmymuscle]

Dorian displaying no right bicep in 96

  Yet, his conditioning, at that contest...

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[Hulkster]

Other than lat width, Lavrone blows him away.

That's about Dorian's only strong pose! The mediocre, deformed arms and blocky taper are nicely hidden in that one shot.

bingo! thats why when anyone criticizes Dorians horrible taper, ND will post a lat spread! Its pathetic!

[Hulkster]

  You have an obvious mental condition. Saying that Shawn beats Dorian, in each and every single pose, is just not right.

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I know its "not right" - but hey! Thats what happens when the defending champ shows up in offseason shape sporting one arm!~

[Hulkster]

I think part of the reason why Ronnie sucked in 2001 and 2002 was that one of his biggest strong points, his arms, sucked at those contests.

That makes a big impression on people when your knockout bodypart is no longer your ace in the hole.

I mean, look at this arm shot from 2003:


huge difference.

The same thing happened to Dorian in 1994:

all of a sudden his super ripped lower back failed to light up the judges and crowd like it used to, since it was not really ripped anymore.

things like these make a difference.

It would be like showing up onstage with one arm!

[pumpster]

If that's Ron in bad shape why does he still beat Jay in that shot?

Superior lines, shape, taper & sweep as well as better size coupled w/ smaller joints will always be there come contest time, despite any relative differences in conditioning.

[suckmymuscle]

I think part of the reason why Ronnie sucked in 2001 and 2002 was that one of his biggest strong points, his arms, sucked at those contests.

That makes a big impression on people when your knockout bodypart is no longer your ace in the hole.

I mean, look at this arm shot from 2003:


huge difference.

The same thing happened to Dorian in 1994:

all of a sudden his super ripped lower back failed to light up the judges and crowd like it used to, since it was not really ripped anymore.

things like these make a difference.

It would be like showing up onstage with one arm!

  This pic makes it clear that, that Jay, has matched Ronnie in mass. If he gets his conditioning right, he might win the O. He also need to increase his separation and muscle sweep, though.

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[pumpster]

Jay will never have the sweep, taper and lines. Even comparable size looks smaller because of thick joints. Forever blocky-structural, can't be erased.

Someone else will come along and win after Ron IMO. Gunter looks better and is much better for BB promotions.

[delta9mda]

that pic is NOT from the 94 O. It is from the 94 English grand prix where dorian looked much better.

If I had a scanner I could prove it as I have the flex mag with the 94 grand prix coverage in it.

Dorian looked like shit in 94, stop posting pics from another contest to try and justify Dorians win. 
 
It only makes you look retarded!

hulkster you are wrong, that is the 94 o,  ive got all the olympia flex mags fro the last 15 years. no scanner. 

[suckmymuscle]

Jay will never have the sweep, taper and lines. Even comparable size looks smaller because of thick joints. Forever blocky-structural, can't be erased.

Someone else will come along and win after Ron IMO. Gunter looks better and is much better for BB promotions.

  Unfortunately, I have to agree ith you . Now seriously, I don't really care for Jay, so I'm ok with it. However, saying that Gunther can win the O, with his height and skeletal frame...

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[Howard]

I think part of the reason why Ronnie sucked in 2001 and 2002 was that one of his biggest strong points, his arms, sucked at those contests.

That makes a big impression on people when your knockout bodypart is no longer your ace in the hole.

I mean, look at this arm shot from 2003:


huge difference.

The same thing happened to Dorian in 1994:

all of a sudden his super ripped lower back failed to light up the judges and crowd like it used to, since it was not really ripped anymore.

things like these make a difference.

It would be like showing up onstage with one arm!

Man hulkster that is one great pic of both Jay and Ronnie for some reason it really shows both guys muscularity well.
Where is the pic from?    Howard

[gcb]

The difference between 2001 and 1994 is this:

2001 was still debatable. It was close, and everyone can see that.

 On the other hand, I don't think anyone in their right mind (except ND who is on crack anyway) thinks that 1994 was undebatable. It was a robbery, plain and simple. Everyone has been saying that for years.  There was no debate about that.

I have never really heard anyone make a sound case for Dorian winning in the kind of shape that he was in 1994, especiall with Shawn ray showing up looking like he did.. I mean look at that shot from the contest that I posted - that is, in my opinion, THE greatest arms forward most muscular ever, even better than Kevin! 

Do you mean this Kevin?

[suckmymuscle]

Do you mean this Kevin?

  He looks horrible. One of the orst pictures I've ever seen, of Kevin.

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