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Author Topic: 12-19-05: Titus &y Ryan Murder Case - updated daily  (Read 159172 times)
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« Reply #1275 on: December 28, 2005, 05:11:42 AM »

Kind of gives you a whole new outlook on the Feds, eh William?   Undecided

And this is coming from a veteran......

If they want you, they'll get you.............innocent or not.




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it should have given you a new outlook on criminal activity
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« Reply #1276 on: December 28, 2005, 06:15:58 AM »

Div needs to get out more, mix, make contact..  Undecided
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« Reply #1277 on: December 28, 2005, 06:24:23 AM »

Big D, the TR6 was my favorite car as a kid.  My first car was a 59' MGA.  My mom went into Larry Reed Imports in LA back in 75' or so.  She went in to buy somecar (can't remember) but ended up going to a warehouse in Santa Monica and buying the last year they made the TR6 he had in storage (he had a few).  SHe paid $10,000 even for it.  That was back in 1975 or so.  It had less than 100 miles when thye bought.  My dad decided to keep it as an investment and trailered it up to our cabin in Running Springs.  She ended up buy a new 280Z.  In short 11 years or so later when my mom died, she ended up being n the hospital for almost a year.  Even after insurance had paid my dad had to pay out allot of money.  He ended up sellng the TR6.  It had less than 1000 original miles on it.  Was in absolutely mint conidtion and sold it to a collector for over $20,000.  I couldn't believe it.  I loved that car.

Oh, did Titus kill someone?

i'm blessed to still have my first car on the road.  1960 mercedes benz 190D  bought her from mother with my piggy bank money in 1966.  guys still laugh at this diesel.  but how many diesels from 1960 do you see on the road?  so now i'm having the last laugh.

oh yeah
dont ever let kelly ryan throw you a house warming party  Smiley


 
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« Reply #1278 on: December 28, 2005, 08:29:53 AM »

Maybe Kelly killed her in KFC. She was in KFC right? You know chatting over a few extra crispy drumsticks, Kelly snaps, chokes her out. Calls Craig. This Gross fellow passes her body through drive up. No one sees a thing cause it's Vegas ya know.

Yaeh, I think that's it.

BWHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #1279 on: December 28, 2005, 09:03:25 AM »

I highly doubt she was killed in the room.  Has that been established.  If so how did they get the body to the Jag.  Even in Vegas carrying a dead body and throwing it in a trunk seems a little out of place.  Was she dead prior to the gag and other restraints.  If so why did they have to tie her up.  If, he duct taped her mouth, was her nose also covered.  This could have caused the suffication.  The burning of the Jag is completely idiotic.  The desert around Vegas is littered with dead bodies.  No matter what the way they are acting it looks to me like they did it together.  I just don't see a tight, bonding and loving relationship between the two.  Allowing your partner to have sex with others and sharing is just something that exhibits non commitable relationship.  So to be able to say one or the other did it and the other one is protecting them is something I can't believe.  They did it together and thus are protecting themselves and each other.








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        Quit looking at their relationship the way you view relationships. They were at one time one of the highest(if not the highest ) profile couples in the industry. They were stars & stars attract groupies, mix in the drugs & anything can happen. I worked in the adult nightclub industry for many years. I had a friend who was a national level BB'er & had been featured in a few BB'ing mags & became a local celeb. At one time I really looked up to him. He was a really great guy & everyone liked him. He worked for me for awhile, started dating a college girl who appeared to have her sh*t together. 3-4 months later ,she quit school, started dancing, they started partying pretty hard, next thing they were doing the exact same thing Titus (?) was doing.Not only did he pretty much alienate himself from all his friends, He  flushed his career down the drain too. Point is anyone can get sucked in. It starts slowly & next thing you know your doing things you never imagined. When the drugs take over, you start sliding down you either f*ck up real bad & do something or get involved in something stupid & go to jail, die ,or eventually try & get straight. Unfortunately, we know what happened in this situation. I am not excusing them or making excuses for them but I can see how this happened. It could happen to anyone, including you , me and anyone else.
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« Reply #1280 on: December 28, 2005, 09:05:29 AM »








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        Quit looking at their relationship the way you view relationships. They were at one time one of the highest(if not the highest ) profile couples in the industry. They were stars & stars attract groupies, mix in the drugs & anything can happen. I worked in the adult nightclub industry for many years. I had a friend who was a national level BB'er & had been featured in a few BB'ing mags & became a local celeb. At one time I really looked up to him. He was a really great guy & everyone liked him. He worked for me for awhile, started dating a college girl who appeared to have her sh*t together. 3-4 months later ,she quit school, started dancing, they started partying pretty hard, next thing they were doing the exact same thing Titus (?) was doing.Not only did he pretty much alienate himself from all his friends, He  flushed his career down the drain too. Point is anyone can get sucked in. It starts slowly & next thing you know your doing things you never imagined. When the drugs take over, you start sliding down you either f*ck up real bad & do something or get involved in something stupid & go to jail, die ,or eventually try & get straight. Unfortunately, we know what happened in this situation. I am not excusing them or making excuses for them but I can see how this happened. It could happen to anyone, including you , me and anyone else.
you sound like you were in love with him, "LLES", hahaha, why don't you write him some love letters,,,,,wait a minute, maybe not, you don't want Kelly chasing you down with lighter fluid.
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« Reply #1281 on: December 28, 2005, 09:30:59 AM »

Ah....I got married 3 years ago...... Cool
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« Reply #1282 on: December 28, 2005, 09:38:31 AM »

No not at all . I've seen a simialr situation that's all. He & KR f*cked up, plain & simple. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1283 on: December 28, 2005, 09:44:27 AM »

glad u are with us lies and sarcasm,...lol.
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« Reply #1284 on: December 28, 2005, 10:16:04 AM »

How did they get the body out of the Hotel? Yes it seemed to be the missing link.... but there was a suitcase and the BBQ set found in the back seat of the burned out car. Now you can't just throw a body over your shoulder and carry it out, but if she had a big enough size suit case well there ya go thats how the body left the hotel room. Possibly? Putting 2 & 2 together she was kicked out of their house. She would have had to pack "all" of her belongings. She has traveled quite a bit. My guess it was a big suit case. Nothing suspicious about someone leaving a hotel with a large suitcase. What I do find interesting is there is no reports on what they found in the hotel room? And all Hotels have camera's in the hallways right? Maybe?

This is my personal spin on things of course. I think Kelly found out about Craig spending additional time with James. Kelly not in a great frame of mind went over there to give her a piece of her mind. It got out of control Kelly lost it & snapped. Freaked out called Craig. Craig feeling guilty for what he has caused then became the accessory to murder along with Gross.

I know it does not make sense because Craig is the one being charged with the Murder at the moment. Obviously they have a lot that they are not telling the Media at the moment. And we won't find out anything until it unravels in court. But thats what I have come up with after reviewing much of this case. This will be very interesting to see how this will play out. the main thing is that justice is found for the James family.

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« Reply #1285 on: December 28, 2005, 10:18:07 AM »

How did they get the body out of the Hotel? Yes it seemed to be the missing link....

Actually...I've been trying to figure out what Hotel they were at.

This could lead to how that was done depending on the hotel & parking area.
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« Reply #1286 on: December 28, 2005, 10:21:19 AM »

I saw it somewhere but it was at the La Quinta
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« Reply #1287 on: December 28, 2005, 10:25:27 AM »

I saw it somewhere but it was at the La Quinta

Well...thats about 5 of them....with that being said being a La Quinta....if the room was on the backside of the hotel....it's easy to go from the room to the parking lot w/o being seen if it was done during the night.
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« Reply #1288 on: December 28, 2005, 10:53:43 AM »

Any reason why you post this in every thread & now twice in this one?
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« Reply #1289 on: December 28, 2005, 02:07:43 PM »

They were at one time one of the highest(if not the highest ) profile couples in the industry.

Here we go with this industry talk again. What indusrtry? Bodybuilding is not an industry.
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« Reply #1290 on: December 28, 2005, 02:14:31 PM »

It is often referred to as such, quit being such a nit-picking pain in the arse.
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« Reply #1291 on: December 28, 2005, 05:58:03 PM »

Ah....I got married 3 years ago...... Cool

How r things, Shawn? A bit rocky, maybe?

Just curious, cause u know, I'd ask u out and all cause it means u have to be gay to admire a pro bb physique.  Wink
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« Reply #1292 on: December 28, 2005, 07:50:57 PM »

Here we go with this industry talk again. What indusrtry? Bodybuilding is not an industry.

Hey bro, whachha bena smokin'??!

Of course, pro. BB has been built into a heavily commercialized, glitzy, glamorized, "industry" consisting of national magazines with heavy advertising, supplement/equipment/course manufacturers/publishers, contest promoters, TV shows, etc., whose goals are often to exploit, and deliberately misinform, the general public, and fleece $$$ from them, by perpetuating the BIG LIE!  Thanks, Joe Weider!!

For example, having mag articles and pics. of drug-bloated pro. BB chemical monsters stating that they built their bodies taking some worthless "super-scientifically-formulated" food supplement, (and promising that you, too, will build similar big muscles by taking that super food supplement SHIAT), rather than publishing the TRUE dangerous, illegal, drug-stacks these freaks are actually taking to look like freakish mass monsters!

Another excellent example...since the media term "bodybuilding industry" is so tainted by general public association with BB drug-users/traffickers, murderers, and other criminals, the euphemism "fitness industry" has become much more "socially acceptable" to a deluded and gullible general public, in order to fleece their $$$! 

Just consider how the "fitness industry" heavily markets "worthless crap exercisers" over TV and in the popular mags!   For example, consider the expensive (approx. $1600) Bowflex weight-resistance machines...whose total exercises/functions could easily be totally replaced by only a simple plate-loading barbell, a squat rack, and an adjustable bench (plus a lot of hard, intelligent, work!) for a mere few hundred dollars (i.e. available USED...since these pieces of equipment are practically indestructible and last a lifetime!).  And, you would be a LOT STRONGER, and "better-built", in the process!!

Why, times haven't really changed in a hundred years(!)...back when, around the turn of the 20th century, the great Eugene Sandow sold little LIGHT, spring-loaded, hand-squeeze, "exercise dumbbells", and dumbbell-exercise-courses, to the ignorant, gullible, general public through mail-order catalogues...saying that he "built has magnificent physique" with ONLY these worthless dumbbells/training-courses!?? 

But, of course, Sandow actually built his magnificent physique/strength with heavy barbell and dumbbell exercise!!   Uhhh...just business as usual in the bodybuilding/fitness "industry"...i.e. lies, lies, and more lies!!!
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« Reply #1293 on: December 29, 2005, 01:51:41 AM »

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She prolly called Craig & told him what happened.  At that point Craig put together a half-assed plan about trying to frame Melissa for Identity theft & stealing of the car.  He went to the garage, picked up some items, and made a phone call to a friend to meet him.  He then went to the Hotel & told Kelly to run to the store & meet him with some barbecue fluid.  He Polly heard from a friend that barbecue fluid will generate a higher BTU of fire for incineration.  He then staged an abduction type scenario where he bounded & taped her up.  From there....he figured a theft of his car could back his story about Melissa being troubled & unpredictable and messing with some bad people.

I thought it was said he never filed a report or presse charges that the car was stolen or she took money.
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« Reply #1294 on: December 29, 2005, 09:11:12 AM »

I thought it was said he never filed a report or presse charges that the car was stolen or she took money.
They didn't.
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« Reply #1295 on: December 29, 2005, 10:28:59 AM »

It is often referred to as such, quit being such a nit-picking pain in the arse.

Yeah, refered to by those delusioned into thinking it's far more significant or important than it is. Like you.

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« Reply #1296 on: December 29, 2005, 11:02:01 AM »

Don't you think your getting worked up a little too much over a word.
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« Reply #1297 on: December 29, 2005, 11:05:44 AM »

Don't you think your getting worked up a little too much over a word.

Not really.
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« Reply #1298 on: December 29, 2005, 12:47:51 PM »

Industry , Industry, Industry!!!! Now Nort will be agitated all day.
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« Reply #1299 on: December 30, 2005, 02:12:16 PM »

Industry , Industry, Industry!!!! Now Nort will be agitated all day.

Yeah, I hear you....

Industry: bodybuilding

Work ethic: someone who uses steroids and lift weights...

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