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« on: October 31, 2013, 10:01:31 AM »

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NBC/WSJ poll: Obama approval sinks to new low
By Mark Murray, Senior Political Editor, NBC News

President Barack Obama’s approval rating has declined to an all-time low as public frustration with Washington and pessimism about the nation’s direction continue to grow, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Just 42 percent approve of the president’s job performance, which is down five points from earlier this month. By comparison, 51 percent disapprove of his job in office -- tied for his all-time high.


The NBC/WSJ pollsters argue that no single reason explains Obama’s lower poll standing. Rather, they attribute it to the accumulation of setbacks since the summer -- allegations of spying by the National Security Agency, the debate over Syria’s chemical weapons, the government shutdown and now intense scrutiny over the problems associated with the health care law’s federal website and its overall implementation.

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Those events have combined to erase some of the advantage the president gained with polls showing most Americans blame congressional Republicans for the shutdown.

And for the first time in the survey, even Obama’s personal ratings are upside-down, with 41 percent viewing him a favorable light and 45 percent viewing him negatively.

“Personally and politically, the public’s assessment is two thumbs down,” says Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted this survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff.

‘Mad as hell as we’re not going to take it anymore’

But that two-thumbs-down assessment also applies to almost every other politician measured in the poll. Consider:

The public’s view of the Republican Party has reached another all-time low in the survey, with 22 percent seeing the GOP in a positive light and 53 percent viewing it negatively;

House Speaker John Boehner, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell remain unpopular;

Sixty-three percent of voters want to replace their own member of Congress, which is the highest percentage ever recorded on this question that dates back to 1992;

Seventy-four percent believe Congress is contributing to problems in Washington rather than solving them;

Only 22 percent think the nation is headed in the right direction;

And half of respondents (50 percent) think it’s likely that there will be another government shutdown.

Peter King explains why the president needs to stand with the NSA.

GOP pollster McInturff says that if the previous NBC/WSJ poll -- conducted during the shutdown -- sent shock waves hitting the Republican Party, this new poll is sending shock waves hitting everyone else.

“It feels like we’re in a Howard Beale moment,” adds Hart, referring to an often-quoted line from the 1976 movie “Network.”

“We’re mad as hell and we’re not going to take it anymore,” Hart paraphrases from that movie.

Measuring the shutdown’s aftermath
And the American public is particularly mad -- at everyone -- after the government shutdown.


By a 41 percent-to-21 percent margin, respondents say they have a less favorable impression of President Obama after the shutdown rather than a more favorable one.

Ditto congressional Tea Party Republicans (45 percent to 12 percent) and congressional Republicans (53 percent to 9 percent).
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Still, more Americans blame congressional Republicans for the shutdown (38 percent) than Obama (23 percent), while 36 percent say they blame both sides equally.

But the poll also shows that the political gains that Democrats made during the shutdown have eroded somewhat.

Democrats have a four-point advantage among voters, 45 percent to 41 percent, on which party should control Congress after next year’s midterm elections. Yet that’s down from the eight-point edge, 47 percent to 39 percent, they held in the last NBC/WSJ poll.

President Barack Obama addresses the issues facing healthcare.gov Wednesday during a speech at Boston's Faneuil Hall.

And measuring the health care rollout
In addition, the health care law is slightly less popular than it was earlier this month, according to the poll.

Thirty-seven percent see it as a good idea, versus 47 percent who see it as a bad idea. That’s down from the 38 percent good idea, 43 percent bad idea in the previous survey.

But the public is divided over whether the problems associated with the health-care law’s federal website are a short-term issue than can be solved, or a long-term issue that signals deeper troubles.

In the poll, 37 percent say that the website woes are a short-term technical problem that can be fixed, while 31 percent believe they point to a longer-term issue with the law’s design that can’t be corrected.

Another 30 percent think it’s too soon to say.

In a separate question, 40 percent say they are less confident about the health-care law from what they recently have seen, heard or read about it; 9 percent are more confident; and 50 percent say there has been no change.

As Hart puts it, “The sign-up problems have hurt the president personally rather than hurt the law.”

The NBC/WSJ poll was conducted Oct. 25-28 of 800 adults (including 240 cell phone-only respondents), and it has an overall margin of error of plus-minus 3.5 percentage points.

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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2013, 04:21:41 PM »

and this was before the lame, I didnt know the website didnt work and its the insurance companies who are cutting insurance plans bull shit
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2013, 05:34:03 PM »

I don't know why he even gives speeches anymore; the majority of Americans already know pretty much everything that comes out of his mouth is complete bullshit or some other form of deceptive politics.
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2013, 06:48:01 PM »

I don't know why he even gives speeches anymore; the majority of Americans already know pretty much everything that comes out of his mouth is complete bullshit or some other form of deceptive politics.

I don't know why people even vote. I'll sell my right to vote for a pack of gum.
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 02:28:25 PM »

Down to 40 percent.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2013, 05:35:56 PM »

He will catch bush's low, once he implements exec orders on amnesty, gun control, climate change, etc.

If only repubs had the nut sack to impeach.  They dont.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2013, 08:16:46 PM »

He will catch bush's low, once he implements exec orders on amnesty, gun control, climate change, etc.

If only repubs had the nut sack to impeach.  They dont.
Yup more 240 impeachment bullshit.

acting like he is for it, so he has "credibility" to call reps pussies for not calling for it...

PS he already signed executive orders on gun control, if you were as pro gun as you say you would already know this.

it doesnt suprise me you dont though....
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 08:39:12 PM »

Yup more 240 impeachment bullshit.

acting like he is for it, so he has "credibility" to call reps pussies for not calling for it...

PS he already signed executive orders on gun control, if you were as pro gun as you say you would already know this.

it doesnt suprise me you dont though....

Actually, the 2 exec orders you mentioned were GOOD things, tony.  

The first order seeks to close a loophole, which allows felons and others who would be otherwise prohibited from owning firearms to bypass the law by registering their firearms with a trust or corporation.

The second order signed by Obama seeks to prohibit military-grade weapons from entering into America by keeping private entities from re-importing guns that the US previously sent to foreign allies.

See, personally, I'm okay if a felon can't buy guns by setting up a corporation and getting around the fact he's a felon that shouldn't have them.
And I'm personally okay with foreign nations not being allowed to export AKs we sent to other countries in years past to the USA.

So these examples are poor ones - they're good rules, actually.  it'd be tough for you to argue, "Well, I'm thinking it's cool if a guy can murder someone, serve 20 years, then get out, set up some paperwork, and be allowed to buy 100 AKs we sent to Iraq 5 years ago."

I never said he's pro-gun, I actually said if repubs don't impeach, i'm certain in year 7 of his presidency, he will deliver a lot of dangerous exec orders.  
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 08:47:24 PM »

Actually, the 2 exec orders you mentioned were GOOD things, tony. 

The first order seeks to close a loophole, which allows felons and others who would be otherwise prohibited from owning firearms to bypass the law by registering their firearms with a trust or corporation.

The second order signed by Obama seeks to prohibit military-grade weapons from entering into America by keeping private entities from re-importing guns that the US previously sent to foreign allies.

See, personally, I'm okay if a felon can't buy guns by setting up a corporation and getting around the fact he's a felon that shouldn't have them.

how many felons were doing this 240?

you know what else those trust did?

They allowed law abiding citizens to own class 3 articles, such as suppressers, short barrel rifles/shotguns, fully automatic weapons etc.

I know first hand as I have a NFA trust and I am a law abiding citizen whos rights are being pushed aside by this pos president and his supporters like yourself.

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 09:21:15 PM »

how many felons were doing this 240?

If it is ONE, then it's enough to warrant the law.  Felons shouldn't have guns.  I don't care if it's 1, or 10, or ten thousand. 


Now, i DO have a major problem if people can no longer get full auto stamps or the silencer thing because of this exec order.  Do you have link to proof people can no longer get these 2 things because of this exec order?  I haven' heard this. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2013, 06:24:37 PM »

If it is ONE, then it's enough to warrant the law.  Felons shouldn't have guns.  I don't care if it's 1, or 10, or ten thousand. 


Now, i DO have a major problem if people can no longer get full auto stamps or the silencer thing because of this exec order.  Do you have link to proof people can no longer get these 2 things because of this exec order?  I haven' heard this. 
so one person exploiting a loophole is enough to trump millions of law abiding citizens rights?
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2013, 06:32:42 PM »

If it is ONE, then it's enough to warrant the law.  Felons shouldn't have guns.  I don't care if it's 1, or 10, or ten thousand. 


Now, i DO have a major problem if people can no longer get full auto stamps or the silencer thing because of this exec order.  Do you have link to proof people can no longer get these 2 things because of this exec order?  I haven' heard this. 
if you are no longer able to obtain these items under a NFA gun trust how else do you go about it?

you get the CLEO to sign off on your application, CLEO's have not been known for their fondness of this law and dont sign your application effectively banning these items.

Do some fucking research, your pro gun right? Roll Eyes

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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2013, 06:49:55 PM »

if you are no longer able to obtain these items under a NFA gun trust how else do you go about it?

you get the CLEO to sign off on your application, CLEO's have not been known for their fondness of this law and dont sign your application effectively banning these items.

Do some fucking research, your pro gun right? Roll Eyes

LOL... you do it as an individual.  The trust is only one of THREE ways a person can get a silencer--- trust (as you chose), corporation, or as an individual. 

Details here:
http://www.silencershop.com/support/how-to-buy-a-silencer

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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2013, 06:55:41 PM »

LOL... you do it as an individual.  The trust is only one of THREE ways a person can get a silencer--- trust (as you chose), corporation, or as an individual. 

Details here:
http://www.silencershop.com/support/how-to-buy-a-silencer


and AGAIN YOU MORONIC FUCKTARD!!!

"ii.Requires signature from chief law-enforcement officer where you live"

guess what CLEO stands for?

DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GOING TO SIGN OFF?

Why do you think ppl used the NFA gun trusts?

Fuking uneducated, ignorant moronic fuck
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2013, 08:26:30 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-and-bush-poll-numbers-nearly-identical-five-years-into-presidency-214919924.html


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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2013, 08:31:48 PM »

So I guess now all the Repubs on this board will never again object when Bush is brought up in comparison to Obama


Right?
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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2013, 08:38:55 PM »

So I guess now all the Repubs on this board will never again object when Bush is brought up in comparison to Obama


Right?

Who has?  W sucked!!!  Jorge Arbusto El Segundo was a complete disaster for the GOP
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 09:31:24 PM »

Who has?  W sucked!!!  Jorge Arbusto El Segundo was a complete disaster for the GOP

DISAGREE!

First off, Bush did something 200 years' of presidents couldn't do - make pre-emptive war acceptable... and repubs LOVE some war!
Bush gave the big middle finger to Kyoto and Al Gore.
Bush sent OBL on the run and ousted Sadaam.
Bush set up bases all over middle east to replace saudis kicking us out.
No child left behind - MAJOR win for repubs.
SCOTUS Roberts and Alito, both under 60 and likely to run that place for the next 25-30 years.
Bush made torture cool, acceptable, embraced. 

If you're a republican, you look at 8 years of Bush and you CELEBRATE!   Who cares what his exit polls were... they had a VERY fruitful 8 years for their goals - particularly when you realize he scraped into office by 1 state each time.

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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2013, 05:53:58 AM »

and AGAIN YOU MORONIC FUCKTARD!!!

"ii.Requires signature from chief law-enforcement officer where you live"

guess what CLEO stands for?

DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GOING TO SIGN OFF?

Why do you think ppl used the NFA gun trusts?

Fuking uneducated, ignorant moronic fuck
You just going to gloss over this mr. If it's true I'll be upset?

For you to call yourself progun or conservative is fucking laughable
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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2013, 06:05:41 AM »

You just going to gloss over this mr. If it's true I'll be upset?

For you to call yourself progun or conservative is fucking laughable


I've never met a person using a phrase like "Fuking uneducated, ignorant moronic fuck" that I wanted to keep talking to.

I mean seriously, if you want to have a conversation, talk to people differently man. 
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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2013, 09:21:25 AM »

so one person exploiting a loophole is enough to trump millions of law abiding citizens rights?

It is in the minds of liberals.
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2013, 10:22:38 AM »


Doh!  lol  That's hilarious.  This president is a failure.
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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2013, 10:55:30 AM »

Doh!  lol  That's hilarious.  This president is a failure.

Anyone w a clue know in 2007 Obama was a lying sack of garbage.
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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2013, 10:58:20 AM »

Anyone w a clue know in 2007 Obama was a lying sack of garbage.

There is no question he is dishonest, but Obamabots don't care.
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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2013, 11:00:52 AM »

There is no question he is dishonest, but Obamabots don't care.

Liberals love their dishonest creeps they worship.  Its a badge of success for the average liberal how much dishonesty they can get away with. 

Obama is a radical communist muslim who practices Taquiya - none of his behaviors should be surprising. 
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